method man Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 46 minutes ago, OVCChairman said: Well there were also speculation that the reason KOC decided to not stay on board, was because he did not believe Haskins was good enough to be a long term QB and he did not want to hitch his trailer to him with little confidence that he would be successful. I dont know that there is any actual evidence of this, but it's something I have heard more than once... from more than one place. That makes sense. I wonder if he would be more open to him as a backup. Answer is still probably no - I doubt Haskins can master a complex offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit33 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 33 minutes ago, method man said: That makes sense. I wonder if he would be more open to him as a backup. Answer is still probably no - I doubt Haskins can master a complex offense Much More likely Rivera didn’t want hutch himself not KOC and wanted his own guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxSpearheadxX Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 hour ago, method man said: That makes sense. I wonder if he would be more open to him as a backup. Answer is still probably no - I doubt Haskins can master a complex offense I think he can, its a matter of will he do what it takes for him to achieve that mastery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 4 hours ago, OVCChairman said: Well there were also speculation that the reason KOC decided to not stay on board, was because he did not believe Haskins was good enough to be a long term QB and he did not want to hitch his trailer to him with little confidence that he would be successful. I dont know that there is any actual evidence of this, but it's something I have heard more than once... from more than one place. It wasn’t his decision. Ron didn’t want to keep him. KOC was under contract. Ron had to get Dan to approve not keeping KOC. He’s no longer calling plays with the Rams. It’s a demotion. KOC and Haskins had a lot of hype and every little production. They were perfect for each other. Frauds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, SoCalSkins said: It wasn’t his decision. Ron didn’t want to keep him. KOC was under contract. Ron had to get Dan to approve not keeping KOC. He’s no longer calling plays with the Rams. It’s a demotion. KOC and Haskins had a lot of hype and every little production. They were perfect for each other. Frauds. Whatever happened to the guy who preceded O'Connell here, Matt Cavanaugh ? Was he hired by anyone ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said: Whatever happened to the guy who preceded O'Connell here, Matt Cavanaugh ? Was he hired by anyone ? I remember him more as a backup QB than a coach. He backed up Joe Montana and was the giants 3rd string QB when they won the super bowl. I would assume Jacksonville would be where he landed but not positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetThePointsSoar Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 7 hours ago, Malapropismic Depository said: Whatever happened to the guy who preceded O'Connell here, Matt Cavanaugh ? Was he hired by anyone ? 7 hours ago, SoCalSkins said: I remember him more as a backup QB than a coach. He backed up Joe Montana and was the giants 3rd string QB when they won the super bowl. I would assume Jacksonville would be where he landed but not positive. He's not coaching anywhere ATM, I don't believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 4 hours ago, LetThePointsSoar said: He's not coaching anywhere ATM, I don't believe. Maybe he can be Haskins private coach since he will be out of the NFL soon too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Washington would part with him for the right price. As of now, that market has been relatively quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggarriso Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 lol "the right price" - this is like trying to sell a bag of dogpoop at a gourmet restaurant - there is no market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 If we get a bag of doritos for him I'd take it and run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Tomb Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Any draft pick compensation should be enough for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovemaskins Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Rex Tomb said: Any draft pick compensation should be enough for him. I disagree. He's still valuable as a developmental QB. I'd keep him before giving him away for a "bag of doritos." He has shown enough for that role and has tools teams covet. Trading that away for less than say a fourth would be a bad decision in my opinion. Think of it this way, would you draft a QB like Haskins in the 4th round with his skill set with red flags about work ethic. Many teams would, hoping they could get thru to him as a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 20 minutes ago, lovemaskins said: I disagree. He's still valuable as a developmental QB. I'd keep him before giving him away for a "bag of doritos." He has shown enough for that role and has tools teams covet. Trading that away for less than say a fourth would be a bad decision in my opinion. Think of it this way, would you draft a QB like Haskins in the 4th round with his skill set with red flags about work ethic. Many teams would, hoping they could get thru to him as a person. If no one traded for Rosen from Miami I doubt you’d get a 4th for Haskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 2 hours ago, PartyPosse said: If no one traded for Rosen from Miami I doubt you’d get a 4th for Haskins. Rosen did net picks when he was traded to Miami, and it was reported that Miami fielded trade calls but declined when it was looking like his time was done there. Not saying those carried great value, but it appears they could have got some compensation back for him. As for a 4th for Haskins, yeah I’d agree that looks a reach at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovemaskins Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 2 hours ago, PartyPosse said: If no one traded for Rosen from Miami I doubt you’d get a 4th for Haskins. 1 minute ago, UK SKINS FAN 74 said: Rosen did net picks when he was traded to Miami, and it was reported that Miami fielded trade calls but declined when it was looking like his time was done there. Not saying those carried great value, but it appears they could have got some compensation back for him. As for a 4th for Haskins, yeah I’d agree that looks a reach at the moment. I dont disagree with a fourth being a reach, my point is that I can understand the coaches wanting at least that much or just keeping him as a developmental QB before just getting him out of the building for a seventh. You keep him and development him at that bottom dollar price considering his skillset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 minute ago, lovemaskins said: I dont disagree with a fourth being a reach, my point is that I can understand the coaches wanting at least that much or just keeping him as a developmental QB before just getting him out of the building for a seventh. I’d agree with this, at the minute anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovemaskins Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Now if he turns into a malcontent moron stirring up the locker room, turn him loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 33 minutes ago, UK SKINS FAN 74 said: Rosen did net picks when he was traded to Miami, and it was reported that Miami fielded trade calls but declined when it was looking like his time was done there. Not saying those carried great value, but it appears they could have got some compensation back for him. As for a 4th for Haskins, yeah I’d agree that looks a reach at the moment. I bet teams were offering players in exchange which is why they turned it down. Rather have an open roster spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Haskins has no value. His value will not continue to grow because he's not playing. He's not playing because he cannot run this offense efficiently. He can't complete short passes required of a starting caliber NFL QB. Take whatever you can get. In other news, Tua looks great. The kid in San Diego looks really good. Why do the Redskins draft HORRIBLE qb's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggarriso Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Thirtyfive2seven said: Why do the Redskins draft HORRIBLE qb's? 'Daniel Snyder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Thirtyfive2seven said: In other news, Tua looks great. Not today. And there's word that the Dolphins made the move to him because they have a ton of first round picks and want to be sure Tua is the guy. If he doesn't impress, they could move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, Hooper said: Not today. And there's word that the Dolphins made the move to him because they have a ton of first round picks and want to be sure Tua is the guy. If he doesn't impress, they could move on. was reading that earlier, that pick they got from the Texans could be top 5. Smart move to see what Tua gives them right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Hooper said: Not today. And there's word that the Dolphins made the move to him because they have a ton of first round picks and want to be sure Tua is the guy. If he doesn't impress, they could move on. As they should. A draft pick should be considered a date not a marriage. If it’s awkward and not going well you move on fast. That’s the prudent move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVCChairman Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 2 hours ago, UK SKINS FAN 74 said: was reading that earlier, that pick they got from the Texans could be top 5. Smart move to see what Tua gives them right now. as of now, they have 4 AND 15.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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