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  1. 1. Should Donald Trump be impeached for obstruction of justice?



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2 minutes ago, killerbee99 said:

What dá **** are you rambling about... Tulsi is being punished for supporting a socialist in Sanders in 2016 at the same same time not fully supporting the left agenda that has gone far left... Wtf are you rambling about... Go back to smoking weed bro!

 

Hillary's camp and the DNC cast her out, if you think otherwise, so be it.  There is a quote from Hillary's camp in 2016 that I posted that spells that out for you.  The DNC is endorsing Warren it seems (especially after all the **** happening with Biden).  And just because Hillary says something, you have to believe it?  

 

Sanders runs on a socialist platform, plain and simple.  And he ran on the Democratic ticket in 2016 and the left blasted her for supporting a candidate that was never a Democrat before.  And the current platform of most of the major candidates is as close to a socialist platform as I've ever seen before.  My personal opinion, again, is that Tulsi is running on a more traditional Democratic platform than her competition is.  

 

You don't have to agree with me.  

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7 minutes ago, Dont Taze Me Bro said:

 

Wouldn't voting No, be anti-impeachment?  How is not voting yes or no, anti-impeachment?  Again, as I replied to Springy, I really think it was more of a **** you to the DNC if anything.  Why continue to be a systematic democrat if your own party cast you out?

I'm not a Democrat.  Never have been; probably never will be.  But if you refuse to vote for Impeachment when the President has committed several clear and present violations of the office because of some political differences with some party, then I have no faith in your ability to legislate.

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2 minutes ago, Dont Taze Me Bro said:

Sanders runs on a socialist platform, plain and simple.

 

And the current platform of most of the major candidates is as close to a socialist platform as I've ever seen before.

I don’t even know what “socialist” means anymore. Whatever it means isn’t what it’s supposed to mean.

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Just now, TryTheBeal! said:

Imagine having to roll in here and stan for Tulsi.

 

Good lord, my man...what are doing with your life?!?  

 

Living it to the fullest.  I personally don't really care if she didn't vote or not.  Everyone that has watched or kept up with the impeachment process knew he was going to get impeached.  Won't mean **** if the senate doesn't vote to remove him from office.  If people want to buy into whatever Hillary says about Gabbard, so be it. 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Dont Taze Me Bro said:

 

She didn't vote yes or no though.  My guess is it was a political move to try and get some Republicans closer towards the middle or who are sick of Trump to vote for her in 2020.  And why would she support her fellow democrats and the DNC?  They **** on her once she resigned and endorsed Sanders in 2016 and they have started attacking her once she gained popularity.  

 

I take it as more of a **** you to the DNC than anything else.


I mean, if that’s her reason for a no vote, I don’t agree with it.  I feel like it’s important to put out there where you stand on this issue.

 

From what I understand, she said she read the whole impeachment report and couldn’t vote yes for it.  But even if she just couldn’t make up her mind, she’s gotta come with something.

 

Imagine a republican pulled a no vote.  People would be talking that up all day like it was the end of the world for republicans.

 

The way I see it, she doesn’t want democrats votes.

12 minutes ago, Dont Taze Me Bro said:

 

She didn't vote yes or no though.  My guess is it was a political move to try and get some Republicans closer towards the middle or who are sick of Trump to vote for her in 2020.  And why would she support her fellow democrats and the DNC?  They **** on her once she resigned and endorsed Sanders in 2016 and they have started attacking her once she gained popularity.  

 

I take it as more of a **** you to the DNC than anything else.


I mean, if that’s her reason for a no vote, I don’t agree with it.  I feel like it’s important to put out there where you stand on this issue.

 

From what I understand, she said she read the whole impeachment report and couldn’t vote yes for it.  But even if she just couldn’t make up her mind, she’s gotta come with something.

 

Imagine a republican pulled a no vote.  People would be talking that up all day like it was the end of the world for republicans.

 

The way I see it, she doesn’t want democrats votes.

12 minutes ago, Dont Taze Me Bro said:

 

She didn't vote yes or no though.  My guess is it was a political move to try and get some Republicans closer towards the middle or who are sick of Trump to vote for her in 2020.  And why would she support her fellow democrats and the DNC?  They **** on her once she resigned and endorsed Sanders in 2016 and they have started attacking her once she gained popularity.  

 

I take it as more of a **** you to the DNC than anything else.


I mean, if that’s her reason for a no vote, I don’t agree with it.  I feel like it’s important to put out there where you stand on this issue.

 

From what I understand, she said she read the whole impeachment report and couldn’t vote yes for it.  But even if she just couldn’t make up her mind, she’s gotta come with something.

 

Imagine a republican pulled a no vote.  People would be talking that up all day like it was the end of the world for republicans.

 

The way I see it, she doesn’t want democrats votes.

12 minutes ago, Dont Taze Me Bro said:

 

She didn't vote yes or no though.  My guess is it was a political move to try and get some Republicans closer towards the middle or who are sick of Trump to vote for her in 2020.  And why would she support her fellow democrats and the DNC?  They **** on her once she resigned and endorsed Sanders in 2016 and they have started attacking her once she gained popularity.  

 

I take it as more of a **** you to the DNC than anything else.


I mean, if that’s her reason for a no vote, I don’t agree with it.  I feel like it’s important to put out there where you stand on this issue.

 

From what I understand, she said she read the whole impeachment report and couldn’t vote yes for it.  But even if she just couldn’t make up her mind, she’s gotta come with something.

 

Imagine a republican pulled a no vote.  People would be talking that up all day like it was the end of the world for republicans.

 

The way I see it, she doesn’t want democrats votes.

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The Tulsi vs. Hillary feud is not very interesting to me.  I will let others commentate on it.


As far as Tulsi's "present" vote on impeachment it is in tune with her fantasy that she is somehow going to win over a significant number of GOP to form a coalition.  It's a pipe dream.  If she had voted for impeachment she likely loses all future spots on Fox and whatever other conservative outlet she is fooling herself into believing is making some kind of headway with GOP/Trumpers.   She is only ever invited on those shows to bash other Democrats and the conversation is never allowed to veer off-script onto actual things she disagrees with Trump & the GOP about.   It is basically Fox gathering soundbites for later that they can use on the eventual Dem nominee. It's dirty, and I am disappointed Tulsi is a willing partner in the ruse. 

 

Tulsi is going to be on the RIse/Rising show tomorrow.  It is available on youtube.  I assume they are going to press her on the "present" vote.  Interested to see what her justification is since she said she "could not bring herself to vote yes or no"   I don't get it, but I am willing to see what she has to say if not for any other reason than morbid curiosity.

 

We've already seen what happens when Tucker Carlson invites someone on to bash a certain group of people, but the guest goes off script and transitions into bashing Fox and Tucker himself.  He has a meltdown, curses at the guest, and the segment never airs. 

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The house should send it to the senate

 

then proceed with more impeachment hearings from the mueller stuff

 

I figure we can do this like 5 more times. lets just throw it all at the wall and see what sticks. 
 

I mean what’s the worse you can say about that? That we’re over doing it with facts

 

cause all the other side is doing is lying. 
 

lets make him the most impeached president ever 

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Tulsi doesn’t matter.  
 

What matters is the next election and how this impeachment plays out.  The republican political game plan isn’t as weak as we’re pretending it is.  Their mouth pieces are marching out the talking points:

1- Yes Trump asked for a favor, but there was something shady going on with Biden and wanting it investigated isn’t an impeachable offense. 

2- Democrats have been looking for any reason to impeach Trump, since long before anyone knew about any of this.  This makes it look like a witch hunt, and short sighted comments by elected democrats support this claim.  This one will be effective, even if we dislike it.

 

They also control the senate and will get to out on a show entirely intended to show Trump should never have been impeached... and they’ve ALWAYS enjoyed pretending to be victims.  Democrats have their work cut out for them.

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30 minutes ago, Destino said:

Tulsi doesn’t matter.  
 

What matters is the next election and how this impeachment plays out.  The republican political game plan isn’t as weak as we’re pretending it is.  Their mouth pieces are marching out the talking points:

1- Yes Trump asked for a favor, but there was something shady going on with Biden and wanting it investigated isn’t an impeachable offense. 

2- Democrats have been looking for any reason to impeach Trump, since long before anyone knew about any of this.  This makes it look like a witch hunt, and short sighted comments by elected democrats support this claim.  This one will be effective, even if we dislike it.

 

They also control the senate and will get to out on a show entirely intended to show Trump should never have been impeached... and they’ve ALWAYS enjoyed pretending to be victims.  Democrats have their work cut out for them.


The likelihood this goes to trial soon is slim.  Why send it to trial when the jurors are openly claiming they will move to acquit  after opening statements? No. They will force the party’s hand to accept even terms, and while they scoff at those terms, more articles of impeachment will be drawn up. I’m guessing this is why they only brought 2 counts when clearly there are far more ( emoluments, Russia, mueller, Deutsche bank, taxes, etc). There will be wave after wave of this, and he will never get his “exoneration.”
 

It’s true that they have been investigating trump since before he was elected when he was openly asking a foreign government to interfere with our elections. If anything, they should have been investigating him far earlier.. 

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These protesters that rallied yesterday before the vote and today after Trump's Michigan rally need to focus on the senate.  There should be protesters camped out 24 hours a day outside of Mitch McConnell's house and wherever he goes making the will of the people known that at the very least there should be a fair trial.  Follow him everywhere so he gets no relief.  Make his life miserable.

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3 hours ago, Dont Taze Me Bro said:

 

You really believe Hillary Clinton in regards to Tulsi?  I don't and I voted for Hillary in 2016.  Zero evidence/proof that Tulsi is a Russian asset.  Hillary just got butt hurt because she resigned from her position in the DNC to fully endorse Bernie Sanders back in 2016. 

 

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2019-10-25/tulsi-gabbard-russian-asset-republican

 

This is a pretty good summary of what I think. 

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4 hours ago, Warhead36 said:

^^THIS x100

 

If Biden is the nom? Forget it. Trump wins and it might be by a landslide. Biden generates NO juice. Even me being a pretty big liberal would find it hard to vote for Biden(I still would, but begrudgingly).

 

Personally I think Sanders is the best candidate but he comes across as super extreme to so many(even though he's got well thought out ideas and at least has a PLAN on how to get things done).

I don't see such a candidate; which is why I think Trump wins.

 

Biden will be Hillary 2.0 but even worse.  Sanders and Warren will scare away the non-progressives; especially after the Trump/GOP attack machine has their say.  Mayor Pete has no minority support and being gay will hurt him in many places.  

i don't see who gets the electoral college win.  I know supports of Bernie says, Bernie will crush Trump. i don't see it. 

 

Yesterday's impeachment really won't have that much of an impact as people think it will, at the presidential level.  It will have an impact on the House races.

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