Skinsinparadise Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, Boss_Hogg said: Do not believe anything this guy says. He has no sources, he just makes **** up on the fly. Totally. I noticed he tracks IB Incarcerated Bob (among other people) and when Bob throws something out there then all of a sudden Steve is parroting the same thing. I talked about him the other day -- he was just some random fan talking on twitter just like any one of us and then all of a sudden weeks ago he acted like he is now a reporter. Like I said then, he comes off like he just takes things that other people said and then adds his own hyperbole to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Burgold said: In defense of the Collins move, the Redskins are a team loaded with B and C level talent. They have very few stars who are arguably best at their position. Bruce did say that they would pay for blue chip talent...guess he wasn't kidding lol.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, alwaysaskin said: The guys they’ll cut will be only offensive weapons this team has, everyone will call Keenum, Colt, etc “Captain Checkdown” while not realizing that CT is the only weapon the passing game has We've had a powerful offense for some years, now we're going full D and offense is starting to sputter. Crowder is already leaving, AP will go soon as well, he was supposed to sign weeks ago (just like Josh Johnson btw...). And CT was amazing two years ago, but he's also often riding the IR just like Jordan Reed... Don't worry, nerxt year our offense will be injured most of the time. Because that's what we built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysaskin Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Wildbunny said: We've had a powerful offense for some years, now we're going full D and offense is starting to sputter. Crowder is already leaving, AP will go soon as well, he was supposed to sign weeks ago (just like Josh Johnson btw...). And CT was amazing two years ago, but he's also often riding the IR just like Jordan Reed... Don't worry, nerxt year our offense will be injured most of the time. Because that's what we built. The offense will be unwatchable next year, but they’ll still somehow find a way to overpay for Shawn Luvao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToaCommander Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Love the player, we finally get him. But I do not love the contract, its looks like we are overpaying for a box safety who is a ST fan. We also overpaid Alex Smith last year, seems like Allen and Snyder are writing up these contracts. Edit: Read this above Source says the the 3y/$45m number that @RapSheet reported isn't fully guaranteed. Still working on all the details, but this deal is going to be a lot more practical than the eye-popping 6y/$84m that first crossed all our twitter feeds. and am feeling a bit better that all these years of being prudent after the NFL cap penalty is being wasted on 2 contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max21 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Desean to Philly? That really sucks. I think I have to go back to hating the guy now, he’s going to burn us. I hope Landon Collins rips his head off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 When we extend Scherff we wil get 4-5mil in cap space this year. Moving Zach Brown and Mason Foster would create 10mil in space. Or they get asked to take a pay cut. Same applies to the TE's. McGee is another 3mil or so. We have room to manoeuvre short term to meet the cap requirements. Thereafter, you can assess the roster and make moves leading up to and after the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins2victory Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I have said all along that I wanted Collins in FA. So stoked that we made it happen. One excited skins fan right here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I want Mosley and ZaDarius Smith. Then go offense in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, UK SKINS FAN '74 said: When we extend Scherff we wil get 4-5mil in cap space this year. Moving Zach Brown and Mason Foster would create 10mil in space. Or they get asked to take a pay cut. Same applies to the TE's. McGee is another 3mil or so. We have room to manoeuvre short term to meet the cap requirements. Thereafter, you can assess the roster and make moves leading up to and after the draft. I don't doubt the fact that we'll have enough cap space to sign often injured players... Those are coming cheaper. It's been reported for weeks that the FO wanted to have a splash move. Here is our splash move, a ST fan that used to be Redskins fan and that is also good at his position. BAM huge contract coming. We won't be able to move again before we move stuff from our side. Which may takes some time, and seriously who will trade for Mason Foster, Zach Brown? Not many I believe... So we'll have to cut guys left and right to create cap space so we can sign our own draft picks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50yrSKINSfan Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Califan007 said: Bruce did say that they would pay for blue chip talent...guess he wasn't kidding lol.. Only problem is that Collins is not a blue chip player. He cannot cover to save his ass. Last year the nats asked him to cover and he got destroyed, eaten alive, plus he got hurt the last 2 years. Way way too much money. BA still showing us how much of a dumb ass he is. We had little FA money and he blows it on a one dimensional safety when the market is flooded. Now if the Skins have some plan that the rest of the league does not have then fine but everyone in the know in the NY area that has watched LC play the last 2 years is laughing at this move. Cheers. 7 minutes ago, skins2victory said: I have said all along that I wanted Collins in FA. So stoked that we made it happen. One excited skins fan right here! Hope you still feel the same in about 10 months. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshSkinsFan Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, 50yrSKINSfan said: Only problem is that Collins is not a blue chip player. He cannot cover to save his ass. Last year the nats asked him to cover and he got destroyed, eaten alive, plus he got hurt the last 2 years. Way way too much money. BA still showing us how much of a dumb ass he is. We had little FA money and he blows it on a one dimensional safety when the market is flooded. Now if the Skins have some plan that the rest of the league does not have then fine but everyone in the know in the NY area that has watched LC play the last 2 years is laughing at this move. Cheers. First is a matter of opinion, second is flat out false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysaskin Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, 50yrSKINSfan said: Only problem is that Collins is not a blue chip player. He cannot cover to save his ass. Last year the nats asked him to cover and he got destroyed, eaten alive, plus he got hurt the last 2 years. Way way too much money. BA still showing us how much of a dumb ass he is. We had little FA money and he blows it on a one dimensional safety when the market is flooded. Now if the Skins have some plan that the rest of the league does not have then fine but everyone in the know in the NY area that has watched LC play the last 2 years is laughing at this move. Cheers. That’s the problem, the idiots that run this Franchise act like they’re one player away, they will never rebuild they will never get their heads out of their asses and realize that it’s not the 1980’s and the ‘Skins are a premier franchise. This move screams stupidity, it screams desperation and it screams that the team thinks the fans are gullible enough to come back after one big signing. Not to mention this but, does anyone trust Manusky to utilize him right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 DBs look better with pressure, and he will help run defense by stopping more break away runs. Dude was born to be Redskin, no move is perfect but I'd support him wearing 21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, UK SKINS FAN '74 said: I want Mosley and ZaDarius Smith. Then go offense in the draft. Problem is ZaDarius Smith is Preston Smith. Why not just keep Preston as ZaDarius will get more because he is coming off a better year. They are essentially the same player, except Preston has generally been better. Personally I think Preston is a huge weakness for us in the defense we run and am fine with him leaving and us NOT looking at Zadarius. I'd actually probably prefer Brandon Copeland, if you want a guy you won't ever rush with, who MIGHT be better in the flat but with some upside, or a low-ball effort at Houston, if you want a guy with top-end rush possibilities. You just can't have Kerrigan and a guy almost exactly like Kerrigan at the other side and expect not to get eaten alive by backs or tight ends in the flat, as we are always. And no one seems to want to listen to me and simply run a 4-3 with Kerrigan and Smith at end and win the whole world :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Those were in response to Blackmon's tweet about it being foolish to classify Collins as a "box safety"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 2 hours ago, CapsSkins said: $14M/yr for Collins Verdict? Smart spend or overpay? Initial reaction is an overpay. Don't think Bruce understands the supply and demand concept. The safety market is flooded right now so didn't imagine that a team would pay that much for any of the safeties available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Cole Beasley been mentioned as a possibility? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlueIndian Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: DBs look better with pressure, and he will help run defense by stopping more break away runs. Dude was born to be Redskin, no move is perfect but I'd support him wearing 21. I could get behind him wearing 21 , maybe it will incentivize him to live up to that standard. The caveat would be if he sucks or is just average this year he must change #s next season and never spek of it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderhill Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, UK SKINS FAN '74 said: Cole Beasley been mentioned as a possibility? I think they feel they have their Beasley in Quinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Yoda Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 We are totally going to regret paying Collins all that cash, it seems so short-sighted. We'll probably have hard time paying Jonathan Allen and Daron Payne now when its contract time for them. This kind of screams of our goons at the front office trying to make a splash to get fans back in the seats for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillBill26 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, nonniey said: Initial reaction is an overpay. Don't think Bruce understands the supply and demand concept. The safety market is flooded right now so didn't imagine that a team would pay that much for any of the safeties available. Exactly, there are six or seven legit safeties on the market. Wait til the last ones sign and we compare deals. They might not be as good as LC, but the value will be a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, nonniey said: Initial reaction is an overpay. Don't think Bruce understands the supply and demand concept. The safety market is flooded right now so didn't imagine that a team would pay that much for any of the safeties available. Yeah, thats the main problem. Never overpay for the top guy when guy #5 is both quite good and a literal fraction of the cost. The only exception to this is if you are a team that is 1-2 players away, which we are clearly not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, Burgundy Yoda said: We are totally going to regret paying Collins all that cash, it seems so short-sighted. We'll probably have hard time paying Jonathan Allen and Daron Payne now when its contract time for them. This kind of screams of our goons at the front office trying to make a splash to get fans back in the seats for next season. Well before paying Allen and Payne, we'll have to pay Scherff... Which will be really, really, really, really tough now... 4 minutes ago, nonniey said: Initial reaction is an overpay. Don't think Bruce understands the supply and demand concept. The safety market is flooded right now so didn't imagine that a team would pay that much for any of the safeties available. Has Bruce really understand anything? 1 minute ago, Peregrine said: Yeah, thats the main problem. Never overpay for the top guy when guy #5 is both quite good and a literal fraction of the cost. The only exception to this is if you are a team that is 1-2 players away, which we are clearly not. Except our HC and TP thinks we are close... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 "This is not the first time Gettleman parted ways with a Pro Bowl defensive player. When he was the Carolina Panthers GM following the 2015 season, he designated the franchise tag to Josh Norman only to rescind it and let Norman leave via free agency. This decision helped lead to the downfall of Gettleman with the Panthers as they relieved him of his duties in July of 2017." Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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