Art

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  1. When i root for my team to win I get upset when they lose. So when I say if you are rooting for a win it presumes you'd be upset if we lost. Like bothered. I wouldn't kick a win out of bed for eating crackers, but I would have probably been a tad irritated the team picked that moment to play given what they'd done all year.
  2. What was in the best interest of the Washington Redskins on Sunday? Winning a meaningless game at Dallas largely with players who won't be here next year, both lowering our draft position AND making us less attractive to potential coaching and personnel people in the process, or losing that game and maintaining the benefit of that pick? This is not to say you had to root for a loss. Of course not. But if you were rooting for a win you weren't actually thinking about what was in the team's best interest. The players who worked their respective asses off, as you put, got their head coach fired and were in the middle of roughly our worst season ever. They should have worked harder when it mattered if it mattered.
  3. He used a 3/4 this past season to copy what the Bears were doing. And some feel it played a part in why his defense struggled. There is NO DOUBT in my mind if Rivera is our coach we're running a 4-3 though :).
  4. Art

    Correcting the fan interest problem

    I went to the Packers game last year. Too many Packers fans to be sure, but the team was doing well, the game was entertaining and we won. That was before Smith got hurt. The experience was fine, though certainly not ideal given the visitors :). And you are incorrect if you think the NFL will stop a team from moving from the No. 6 market when they have never stopped a team from leaving the No. 1 market. It hurts every other owner if Snyder can't extract from one of three states the same types of deals other states give. So you're kidding yourself if you think someone isn't paying for it and it won't be Snyder. Now, is it possible people put on a happy face and Snyder announces self funding and then the area passes a 3 percent "entertainment" tax that goes to the team? Sure. But he'll get public funding. For sure. Unless it doesn't happen before the league popularity and leverage decreases, which is a serious possibility in that such a thing is already happening.
  5. Art

    Correcting the fan interest problem

    Some state or District government is paying for the Redskins stadium. Or the team moves. You can't keep an NFL team if you're not all in on it with area funding in this day and age at least. That could change. But, yes, I understand the experience isn't awesome. But I was in that stadium and have experienced some good moments. So it can be ok when we don't suck :). It always was the worst stadium in the league though. JKC loved the Meadowlands. Super dumb.
  6. I like to think pretty much everything about me is both informative and entertaining. Well, except that one video....but, let's not talk about that for now.
  7. Art

    Correcting the fan interest problem

    I know what Snyder pays and both sadly and to my great happiness, he can't afford me :).
  8. I attempt a standalone thread here because this seems like a reasonably different conversation with a concept not previously shared. The Redskins are obviously suffering a decline in fan interest based purely on the merit of being largely uninteresting and sorry for far too long. Once the largest, and full stadium in the NFL, is chopped up and closed off with tarps. Opposing fans relax in our stadium. This happens when the home team sucks. I recall attending a game in the early 90s in New England when the Skins were great and the Pats sucked. It was the smallest crowd of the NFL year with just under 22,000 fans in the stadium. Most of us were Skins fans. And the group I was at the game with literally sang Hail to the Redskins the entire game. We were on the Boston news that night. The sorry state of the Pats. That corrected, as our situation corrects, with a winning organization. The Redskins problems with fans obviously need wins. But more importantly, even in losing, there are ways to build community loyalty and generational adoration. Given we have generations now who do not know what I lived through in the 80s, you want to do this. So, to Dan Snyder I propose the following sweeping changes and embrace anyone in agreement to say so and I'll make someone at the Park read it :). 1. Every home game, partner with a DMV school district. Just one. Give any student tickets for themselves and their family. 2. Put the people in an untarped section or two. 3. Give these people free parking. (In fact, I'd probably make all parking free in RalJon until you win again as a gesture). 4. Give each person holding these tickets $20 of free concessions, but not alcohol due to legal issues. 5. Give the STUDENT holding the ticket a free Redskins jersey in the team store. 6. Arrange communication between the student and the chosen player somehow. E-mail, regular mail, something. Connect the fan to the player. 7.Give these people pre-game sideline access and maybe post-game tunnel access. Start here. This is a loss of money initially. But you build brand loyalty reaching young kids with an experience many may be priced out of and almost ALL would be uninterested in given the state of the team. I mean, I'm not eager to go to games and blow a couple hundred when we suck and I still actually like the team. Doing something like this puts young people in the stands and gives them a memory. It puts your gear in schools. It puts them in a position to lead the next generation of fans to stay true and hopefully we get good again one day. Snyder is a businessman but he's a BAD businessman in that he'll see this and likely do math in his head as to the costs. But the monetary downstream benefit is immense. Over time and commitment to the fans you need to thrive with. You can always recoup when you are good as fans will pay whatever is necessary to enjoy winning. In sustained bouts of sucking, though, you have to be willing to dig into your pocket. Spend a few million on the people you need to spend many more millions on you. And the investment will pay off over time. These are my thoughts. And I'm sticking to them :).
  9. If you think Norman is precluded from calling out Manusky due to a contractual concern about his money you'd be wildly incorrect. He was actually more at risk of his contract had the bull hit him than by calling a dumb coach a dumb coach. We'll simply disagree. I've appreciated Norman hasn't made the Normal situation about him. He's quietly finished out his season and probably his time here. I'm CERTAIN we'll hear from him in the near future. But getting to here was the right way to handle business. And it's appreciated. Even if his level of play was not :).
  10. Art

    On The State of ES and This Fanbase

    If Twitter encourages posting, snark and aggressiveness it's a wonder I haven't taken better to it :). But you're right. You build a bond with the "OP" in threads. You refer to the OP. The OP sets the path of the conversation and that gets lost in the mega threads. But it is maybe just a sign of the times.
  11. And in so doing, join him in ignorant bliss in the belief Snyder should not be involved, unless his involvement is what you want, right? No. I know you don't think that. But, as many before you, and many yet to come, once tweaked, vacating clean is hard. So, no worries. Enjoy the huddle of people who like thinking dumb thoughts :).
  12. Right. So now you grasp why believing Snyder should never be involved unless you like him being involved makes the holder of such a contextual belief reasonably identifiable as dim and hypocritical and LIKELY doesn't really believe that once faced with what they are actually saying :).
  13. Small world. Shoreview here. <mod edit rule-violating content>
  14. Art

    On The State of ES and This Fanbase

    Good to see you brother. <mod edit rule-violating content>
  15. Yeah. This refers to what? Once you figure that out, a world of possibilities opens to you I suspect. Secondarily, are you actually in Minnesota? I am as well. About to snow throw. But not many of us up this way.