CousinsCowgirl84 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Fergasun said: I read the deal as reported as $1.3B for wall/barrier/peach funding and $1.7B for DHS.... total of $3B. As one who is on the side of “of course walls work”, if that is the case trump should sign it. He got more that half of what he wanted after the dems said no money. Edited February 12, 2019 by CousinsCowgirl84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: As one who is on the side of “of course walls work”, if that is the case trump should sign it. He got more that half of what he wanted after the dems said no money. Uh, 1.3 is not "more than half" of 5.6. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, visionary said: "Says he is 'adding things to it.'" Um, that's not the way this works, bruh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, mistertim said: "Says he is 'adding things to it.'" Um, that's not the way this works, bruh. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Larry said: Uh, 1.3 is not "more than half" of 5.6. 3 billion is. Didn’t he say he wanted 5.6? If you get 1.7 of wall funding from DHS and 1.3 from the deal, that’s 3 billion, no? is the 1.7 just for tech? Edited February 12, 2019 by CousinsCowgirl84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Just now, CousinsCowgirl84 said: 3 billion is. Didn’t he say he wanted 5.6? He demanded 5.6 for the wall on top of the expanded DHS funding which the bill he rejected already had in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: 3 billion is. Didn’t he say he wanted 5.6? If you get 1.7 of wall funding from DHS and 1.3 from the deal, that’s 3 billion, no? is the 1.7 just for tech? Trump's fantasy that he can just move money around willy-nilly is just that, a fantasy. Money goes where it's appropriated to go. The DHS money is not appropriated for the wall, it can't go there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, DogofWar1 said: Trump's fantasy that he can just move money around willy-nilly is just that, a fantasy. Money goes where it's appropriated to go. The DHS money is not appropriated for the wall, it can't go there. OK, thanks, @Fergasun ‘s post kinda made it sound like it was for a wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) ah, we'll see ~Bang Edited February 12, 2019 by Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bang said: 1. I guess this is more than 'not one penny" so oh well for me. I guess we'll pay for his bull**** after all. It seems to be specific to bollard fencing, which they have already made a bunch of over the years. So it's not for a wall per se, but it's for new bollard fencing, so it's kinda in between I think. But it's neither a concrete wall nor steel slats so Trump is still losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 He's a coward. Do the emergency order thing, Cheeto. If border security was really a dire threat; then you would be declaring emergency now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFan44 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) Trump suggests he can round up 23 billing for the wall without Congress appropriating it. https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1095469449052868610 Add: Maybe I am misreading this, can't seem to find numbers for "border security". Edited February 13, 2019 by RedskinsFan44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 34 minutes ago, Rdskns2000 said: He's a coward. Do the emergency order thing, Cheeto. If border security was really a dire threat; then you would be declaring emergency now. If it was really an emergency, he couldn't wait months for Congress to act in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 I don’t like giving this asshole anything he can consider a win. I wouldn’t have put any funding in for a fence or barrier. Make him shut down again over this if that’s what he wants. Im disappointed at Dems for this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 hour ago, DogofWar1 said: It seems to be specific to bollard fencing, which they have already made a bunch of over the years. So it's not for a wall per se, but it's for new bollard fencing, so it's kinda in between I think. But it's neither a concrete wall nor steel slats so Trump is still losing. you must have caught my post in those 2 minutes before i decided to hold the thought. ~Bang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 hour ago, RedskinsFan44 said: Trump suggests he can round up 23 billing for the wall without Congress appropriating it. https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1095469449052868610 Add: Maybe I am misreading this, can't seem to find numbers for "border security". It's no wonder they don't bother with daily press briefings anymore (or even weekly, for that matter). At this point his lies are going in such an absurd direction that there's no point in even trying to pretend like anything that comes out of his **** cannon is even on the same plane of existence as the truth. Just isn't worth the time anymore and they know his followers will gobble up anything he says to them, no matter how hilariously false. He could tell them he's just commissioned a moon base that's being built as we speak and they'd start wearing Make the Moon Great Again hats the next day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted February 13, 2019 Author Share Posted February 13, 2019 All, Here are my sources and links. https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/429717-whats-in-the-tentative-deal-to-avert-shutdown Quote The deal includes $1.375 billion to build 55 miles of barriers along the border in the Rio Grande Valley. Quote 1.9 percent pay increase for federal workers. https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/12/politics/border-security-deal-details/index.html Quote There's a $1.7 billion increase in overall spending for the Department of Homeland Security, primarily for technology, ports of entry security, customs officers and humanitarian aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skintime Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 5 hours ago, Larry said: Uh, 1.3 is not "more than half" of 5.6. Trumpkins think it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 The 1.7B for DHS is perfectly fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) Edited February 13, 2019 by visionary 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheGreatBuzz Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Them waiving it pisses me off bad. How are people supposed to have time to read it much research possible effects and consider each part before voting on it? Or allowing their constituants to read it and make their feelings known? I guess we have to pass it to know whats in it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: Them waiving it pisses me off bad. How are people supposed to have time to read it much research possible effects and consider each part before voting on it? Or allowing their constituants to read it and make their feelings known? I guess we have to pass it to know whats in it? **** like this is why I dont trust any of them. I mean maybe the excuse can be made that they are doing this to get past the President. But then **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 9 hours ago, Skintime said: Trumpkins think it is... To be fair to @CousinsCowgirl84I don't think she's what I'd consider a "Trumpkin". She's voiced a decent amount of criticism towards him. I think in this case she just made an incorrect assumption about the allocation of funds and when given more info she realized that and thanked the person who provided it. We all know a true Trumpkin would NEVER do that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 hour ago, TheGreatBuzz said: Them waiving it pisses me off bad. How are people supposed to have time to read it much research possible effects and consider each part before voting on it? Or allowing their constituants to read it and make their feelings known? I guess we have to pass it to know whats in it? Well the next government shutdown starts in two days, so maybe waiving the three day waiting period makes some sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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