Larry Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 23 minutes ago, twa said: you seem confused, I claim it when I do You spent what, a year claiming that you didn't vote for Trump? And now you're independent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Spaceman Spiff said: I said it before during net neutrality, I'll say it again. Our leaders don't care about us. I keep trying to point this out and just get a bunch of nonsense about botherism or whatever the current attempt at wit is. They won’t even what is right anymore. They base every decision off polling. It’s pathetic that our people allow such crap. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Larry said: You spent what, a year claiming that you didn't vote for Trump? And now you're independent. still haven't, unlike some of our liberal posters 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 minute ago, tshile said: I keep trying to point this out and just get a bunch of nonsense about botherism or whatever the current attempt at wit is. They won’t even what is right anymore. They base every decision off polling. It’s pathetic that our people allow such crap. People don't want to admit to themselves that their elected officials, people that they voted for or look to for leadership are just ultimately pieces of ****. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, tshile said: I keep trying to point this out and just get a bunch of nonsense about botherism or whatever the current attempt at wit is. They won’t even what is right anymore. They base every decision off polling. It’s pathetic that our people allow such crap. I think this was more true 10+ years ago. There are significantly more differences in policies and who benefits these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 People continue to elect privileged elite folks that won't relate whatsoever to 99% of society, to public office and then somehow expect them to represent their own values. I don't get it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, NoCalMike said: People continue to elect privileged elite folks that won't relate whatsoever to 99% of society, to public office and then somehow expect them to represent their own values. I don't get it. Because politics has ALWAYS been about money, ambition, and populism. There are also always exceptions of course throughout history. Abraham Lincoln probably being one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 18 minutes ago, NoCalMike said: People continue to elect privileged elite folks that won't relate whatsoever to 99% of society, to public office and then somehow expect them to represent their own values. I don't get it. I kinda dont think it matters. The system will corrupt anybody foolish enough to be a part of it. Eventually even the best wind up playing ball. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Spaceman Spiff said: Kid swore up and down he had it, now they can't find it, or so I read. Shouldn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 What if Sasse actually votes no? Will others follow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said: What if Sasse actually votes no? Will others follow? He's not. If he's voting no then that means the vote already failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 What if some Republicans just don’t vote on him at all....(won’t happen though) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 28 minutes ago, Zguy28 said: Shouldn't matter. I semi-agree. The problem, according to the investigator, is that the women kept changing her justification for not sharing it. She is talking about something that just happened. Hopefully the investigation there was all encompassing and if it needs a police investigation, that should happen too. Dems shouldn't shy away from that one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) Edited October 4, 2018 by visionary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Who is Heidi Heitkamp? Was that even a Yes-to-No flip or someone who was voting No anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) She's a Democrat running in a tight election race in one of the Dakotas, and is voting against seating a liar on the Court. Good for her. She has guts. Edited October 4, 2018 by LadySkinsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) She was possibly voting in a bloc with Manchin and other undecideds on both sides. Going by recent polls she is likely going to lose her election anyway, so may have less reason to vote yes. Edited October 4, 2018 by visionary 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Why am I Mr. Pink? Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 “If Hillary Clinton becomes president, I am going to do everything I can do to make sure four years from now, we still got an opening on the Supreme Court,” North Carolina Sen. Richard Burr said in an audio recording of his meeting with GOP volunteers on Saturday. CNN obtained a copy of the audio. GOP Sens. John McCain of Arizona and Ted Cruz of Texas have also suggested blocking any Clinton nominees. Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., said in a debate Monday night that he “can’t imagine” voting for any Clinton nominee though he stopped short of vowing to block a pick from a Democratic president. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/clinton-wins-gop-say-no-9-supreme-court “Democrats made it clear they would stop at nothing to block President Trump’s Supreme Court pick before Judge Kavanaugh was even chosen as the nominee,” Burr said. “President Trump has every right to nominate the individual of his choosing to the Supreme Court.” https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/richard-burr-committee-should-vote-on-kavanaugh-immediately-after-thursdays-hearing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) All these people who had information for the FBI and werent interviewed probably needed to pivot and go directly to these fence riding senators. Edited October 4, 2018 by justice98 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, NoCalMike said: Who is Heidi Heitkamp? Was that even a Yes-to-No flip or someone who was voting No anyway? She's a dem senator from North Dakota. She was an undecided (with her being from a conservative state and all). Her no vote doesn't change the result but there were speculations that she might vote yes (which would either pad the margins or offset a GOP defection). I think based on everything, Kavanaugh will be confirmed. Murkowski may possible be a no due to her allegiance to Alaskan natives. Dems will use the first opportunity after they win back either house to conduct investigation into the supplemental FBI investigation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, NoCalMike said: Who is Heidi Heitkamp? Was that even a Yes-to-No flip or someone who was voting No anyway? North Dakota Senator...There really should be a national debate as to why the Dakotas are two states instead of one. She is the Dem most likely to lose in the midterms. Might not be the only one, just the most likely. 41 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said: What if Sasse actually votes no? Will others follow? I'd be stunned if he voted no. He will vote yes then give some blah speech about how messed up things are cause that's what he does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearfeather Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, LadySkinsFan said: She's running in a tight election race and is voting against seating a liar on the Court. Good for her. She has guts. It's really not that close now. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/senate/north-dakota/ Yesterday DATES POLLSTER SAMPLE RESULT NET RESULT U.S. Senate • N.D. SEP 29-OCT 2 A Fox News/Anderson Robbins Research/Shaw & Co. Research 801 RV Heitkamp 41% 50% Cramer Cramer +9 U.S. Senate • N.D. SEP 29-OCT 2 A Fox News/Anderson Robbins Research/Shaw & Co. Research 704 LV Heitkamp 41% 53% Cramer Cramer +12 KEY A = ADULTS RV = REGISTERED VOTERS V = VOTERS LV = LIKELY VOTERS Oct. 1, 2018 U.S. Senate N.D. SEP 17-27 Strategic Research Associates 650 LV Heitkamp 41% 51% Cramer Cramer +10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted October 4, 2018 Author Share Posted October 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, bearrock said: She's a dem senator from North Dakota. She was an undecided (with her being from a conservative state and all). Her no vote doesn't change the result but there were speculations that she might vote yes (which would either pad the margins or offset a GOP defection). I think based on everything, Kavanaugh will be confirmed. Murkowski may possible be a no due to her allegiance to Alaskan natives. Dems will use the first opportunity after they win back either house to conduct investigation into the supplemental FBI investigation. If we're being cynical, and we probably should be, Murkowski may be negotiating the opportunity to vote no. If it is clear that all the other Rs are a yes than she can make a "principled" stand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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