justice98 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 They definitely need a vet body in there to compete at G then. A vet body not named Lavauo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Good news is Arie K expected to be back for the playoffs...that we probably won't make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Why am I Mr. Pink? Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 27 minutes ago, nonniey said: Kouandjio is out for the season as of this morning with a torn quad. My money is still on Welsh.  http://rotoworld.com/sports/nfl/football?ls=roto:nfl:gnav   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortisBetts Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Sigh 2 hours ago, MEANDWARF said: He'll be a training camp cut. Keep an eye on Arie Kouandio, Sean Welsh, or Geron Christian to take his place.  Did Brandon Scheriff played tackle at Iowa, but was drafted as a guard? He was drafted to play tackle but Moses came on and he was pushed inside to guard.  He was always expected to be better at guard though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Blaster Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 I’ve always thought the best line would be:  LT Williams LG Moses C Roullier RG Scherff RT Nseke  Won’t happen but I remember when Moses first got here he said he felt most comfortable on the left side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassSkinsFan Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 1 hour ago, nonniey said: Kouandjio is out for the season as of this morning with a torn quad. My money is still on Welsh.  http://rotoworld.com/sports/nfl/football?ls=roto:nfl:gnav   Awww ****!  I'm upset not only because I just spent time watching Kujo's effort weeks 12-17, but because I really liked what I saw. Dammit!  Over the course of those 6 games he gave up 3 sacks. Not great, but at least the 1st 2 were in week 12. One of those sacks was a straight bull rush where he was just over-powered and the other two were fakes where he lost balance. In general his pass pro was very good and his run blocking was decent but not spectacular. One of the pass pro strengths is the ability to focus on space and not lock onto guys. It was routine for him to block the first man on him then move to another guy stunting to the inside, handle him, pass him to the C, then go back to the original guy as the LT would passed him back inside. There was one play where he blocked four different D players on an insanely complicated stunt, making it look easy. He also looks for extra work. His run blocking is a bit flat-footed at times. He has trouble with stretch and influence blocks, but is decent at moving people backwards on drive blocks. He's much better than Lauvao was. What a shame.  Watching all this I noticed a few things about the OL. Bergstrom was a decent backup, but you could really see a difference with Roullier at C. He is just a more intense player who has some similarities to The Scherff in terms of playing full-on to the whistle, being very agile and being able to effectively block in space/on the run. It was like he was The Scherff's not-so-mini Mini Me. There was a screen where LG/C/RG formed the screen. Kujo whiffed on his guy because the DB was just too fast for him. Roullier and The Scherff both locked on to their men and blocked them right out of the play, on the fly. It was pretty awesome.Ty Nsekhe at LT looked lost. He is huge and has the length you need at T but it looked to me like he just wasn't able to understand the system or maybe he had a nagging injury. Was he also hurt at the end of 2017?  What surprised me on D was how well Lanier and Vigil played. They were both more solid than I recall.  With Kujo down filling LG will be more of a challenge. My sentimental pick is Welsh. It's not based on anything but gut instinct but I think he could be the guy.  Has anyone taken a look at Welsh's play yet?  Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 2 hours ago, nonniey said: Kouandjio is out for the season as of this morning with a torn quad. My money is still on Welsh.  http://rotoworld.com/sports/nfl/football?ls=roto:nfl:gnav  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassSkinsFan Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 I've looked at one Iowa game from last year (condensed offensive plays only) and have good news and bad news on Welsh.  Good news is that he can move people off the ball with crushing drive blocks and can turn people or run them past the hole when he takes the right angle on reach blocks. His pass pro is very solid. When he hits his target, you can see the defender receiving a shock wave from the blow. It's pretty cool. Obviously he is a very strong guy.  Bad news is that he seems to have trouble hitting his target in space. When pulling or going to the next level his targets often elude him with feints right before contact. He also has a very very bad habit of trying to cut people on reach blocks where he has to take a really shallow angle. Coupled with that is another habit where he tucks his head as he begins the cut. This means he is very unlikely to hit the mark as he takes his eyes off it and leaves his feet before contact.  BUT take this with a grain of salt. It was just one game. I'll watch more and share thoughts. I'd love to hear what other people see if they watch him.  Hail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcdiscokid Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 2 hours ago, MassSkinsFan said: I've looked at one Iowa game from last year (condensed offensive plays only) and have good news and bad news on Welsh.  Good news is that he can move people off the ball with crushing drive blocks and can turn people or run them past the hole when he takes the right angle on reach blocks. His pass pro is very solid. When he hits his target, you can see the defender receiving a shock wave from the blow. It's pretty cool. Obviously he is a very strong guy.  Bad news is that he seems to have trouble hitting his target in space. When pulling or going to the next level his targets often elude him with feints right before contact. He also has a very very bad habit of trying to cut people on reach blocks where he has to take a really shallow angle. Coupled with that is another habit where he tucks his head as he begins the cut. This means he is very unlikely to hit the mark as he takes his eyes off it and leaves his feet before contact.  BUT take this with a grain of salt. It was just one game. I'll watch more and share thoughts. I'd love to hear what other people see if they watch him.  Hail Well he just left the team and apparently retired, so no point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillBill26 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.hawkcentral.com/amp/603371002  Very disappointing. Liked his potential and wanted to see him compete for a roster spot.  I know he has some depression issues, I wish him well.   Unfortunately, our weakest position just got thinner in the matter of about six hours. The bright side is neither of these guys were going to be a core guy for 2018. Next man up.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan212689 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 We have to trade for a LG. Not sure if a team have a surplus (or an extra) of guards but we are in dire need.  I know the Pats just release a 3rd rounder but he had health issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 1 minute ago, skinsfan212689 said: We have to trade for a LG. Not sure if a team have a surplus (or an extra) of guards but we are in dire need.  I know the Pats just release a 3rd rounder but he had health issues. One option is Alex Boone. He's 31 years old and might provide help at LG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, skinsfan212689 said: We have to trade for a LG. Â Maybe June 1st cuts are still an option ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan212689 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 It’s getting bad now. It wasn’t great before but now it’s ugly... I don’t buy the swing tackle at guard BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Why am I Mr. Pink? Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 16 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said:  Maybe June 1st cuts are still an option ?  I tried looking to see who may potentially be cut.  Maybe Bucs JR Sweezy .. but the guy looks like a serial killer and seems like a lateral move as Sweezy = Lauvau imo. Below average vet.   I just want an average vet.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Welsh retires from football. Â Â https://riggosrag.com/2018/05/11/washington-redskins-ufa-sean-welsh-retires-from-football/ Â ~Dang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowhunter Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bang said: Welsh retires from football.   https://riggosrag.com/2018/05/11/washington-redskins-ufa-sean-welsh-retires-from-football/  ~Dang Is this something unique to our team? 2 years ago it was an UDFA QB, then S'ua, and now Welsh. I thought the chance to play in the NFL is a unique and rare opportunity. I feel for Welsh, and admire him for not wasting our organizations time if his heart is no longer in it. Depression is serious stuff when it takes away your desire to pursue your dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, bowhunter said: Is this something unique to our team? 2 years ago it was an UDFA QB Â Yep, Connor Halliday. Â Can we re-open the poll ? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Will Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 13 minutes ago, bowhunter said: Is this something unique to our team? 2 years ago it was an UDFA QB, then S'ua, and now Welsh. I thought the chance to play in the NFL is a unique and rare opportunity. I feel for Welsh, and admire him for not wasting our organizations time if his heart is no longer in it. Depression is serious stuff when it takes away your desire to pursue your dream Man..two linemen in one day!!..Feels like groundhogs day from last season already!! Im was Really hoping Welsh would come in and do well enough to eventually work himself into a decent role player..I hope Ty fills in and we pickup another rotational guy to help with depth?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 17 minutes ago, bowhunter said: Is this something unique to our team? 2 years ago it was an UDFA QB, then S'ua, and now Welsh. I thought the chance to play in the NFL is a unique and rare opportunity. I feel for Welsh, and admire him for not wasting our organizations time if his heart is no longer in it. Depression is serious stuff when it takes away your desire to pursue your dream A third round pick like Sua was unusual. For UDFAs though, I doubt it's that rare. Ours just happened to be at a position so badly filled that he actually stood a chance to be relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan212689 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 22 minutes ago, NickyJ said: A third round pick like Sua was unusual. For UDFAs though, I doubt it's that rare. Ours just happened to be at a position so badly filled that he actually stood a chance to be relevant. Su’a was a 2nd unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillBill26 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 39 minutes ago, bowhunter said: Is this something unique to our team? I was thinking the same thing. Why is it young men who have worked so hard to make it to the nfl then have a short stint with the Redskins and then say "I don't want to do this anymore". But I think Holliday came back with the chiefs for a brief stint. And sua will pretend he likes football for a few more paychecks. Hopefully nobody on the broncos has the audacity to pull a will Compton and ask him to show some passion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillBill26 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 1 hour ago, RWJ said: One option is Alex Boone. He's 31 years old and might provide help at LG. I hope we pass on Boone.  He was cut by the Vikings last Sept for being out of shape and his best years are behind him. I would rather see a roster spot go to someone young and hungry.  But I'd be ok with jahri Evans as a stopgap. He was solid last year with green bay and is still hungry for a ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEANDWARF Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Bang said: Welsh retires from football.   https://riggosrag.com/2018/05/11/washington-redskins-ufa-sean-welsh-retires-from-football/  ~Dang Why the frack did he sign as an UDFA? Did we point a gun to his freakin' head?!?!? Held his moma hostage? WTH!!!!!! Is this Bruce Allen now!?!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexter Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Greg Robinson is the name i'm looking for. Tons of untapped potential and he excelled at LG his rookie year. Too athletic to not be on a NFL roster. Perfect project for Callahan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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