justice98 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Just now, bearrock said: Something new break? What happened? I just mean, in general. Going to prison, even just in part, over covering for somebody as unworthy as Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Meltdown Morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_HOG Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, @SkinsGoldPants said: How do you plead guilty to something that is not a crime? How long before we get a hey look over there from the Tango Mussolini? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 "But how's it playing in Peoria?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Soooo trump is saying that a jury is part of this mysterious "witch hunt"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, spjunkies said: Soooo trump is saying that a jury is part of this mysterious "witch hunt"? and his followers nod in agreement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 So Trump got a standing 8 count yesterday. When does the KO come? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 26 minutes ago, UK_HOG said: How do you plead guilty to something that is not a crime? How long before we get a hey look over there from the Tango Mussolini? rich people don't believe they can commit crimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFan44 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 15 hours ago, twa said: isn't a campaign finance violation just a fine about twice the value? assuming found guilty of course Doesn't it bother you that the President lied about two affairs to the entire nation? In addition to instructing his lawyer to commit a crime? Or does your outrage only apply to liberals? Trump is in big trouble, these things may not take much more time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF44 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Damning article on Trump. Seems Cohen was done with him after the Helsinki mess. “He certainly found Donald Trump as president to be unsuitable to hold the office after Helsinki,” “He worried about the future of our country with somebody who was aligning himself with Mr. Putin.” “I know that Mr. Cohen would never accept a pardon from a man that he considers to be both corrupt and a dangerous person in the Oval Office, and he has flatly authorized me to say under no circumstances would he accept a pardon from Mr. Trump,” https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/cohen-lawyer-lanny-davis-says-his-client-doesnt-want-to-be-dirtied-by-a-presidential-pardon/2018/08/22/871ea524-a600-11e8-a656-943eefab5daf_story.html?utm_term=.600c2254221d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFan44 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Question for the lawyers: If Cohen lied shouldn't Trump sue him to clear his name? (I know he wont) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Lanny Davis wants all the smoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 hour ago, UK_HOG said: How do you plead guilty to something that is not a crime? How long before we get a hey look over there from the Tango Mussolini? Truth isn't truth and crimes aren't crimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Yeah, I find the notion that Michael Cohen, after being Donald Trump's mob lawyer for decades, was perfectly willing to commit multiple crimes to help him get elected President. But that after Helsinki, THEN he decided that it was his patriotic duty to turn on Trump. Because Cohen THEN came to the conclusion that Trump wasn't a good President. It wasnt, say, the cops raiding his office and seizing all his records that did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 30 minutes ago, RedskinsFan44 said: Doesn't it bother you that the President lied about two affairs to the entire nation? In addition to instructing his lawyer to commit a crime? Or does your outrage only apply to liberals? Trump is in big trouble, these things may not take much more time. Sure it does.....I keep waiting and waiting. still better than Hillary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinss Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 13 minutes ago, twa said: Sure it does.....I keep waiting and waiting. still better than Hillary. Law and order* *But only for the crimes I consider crimes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 14 minutes ago, Larry said: Yeah, I find the notion that Michael Cohen, after being Donald Trump's mob lawyer for decades, was perfectly willing to commit multiple crimes to help him get elected President. But that after Helsinki, THEN he decided that it was his patriotic duty to turn on Trump. Because Cohen THEN came to the conclusion that Trump wasn't a good President. It wasnt, say, the cops raiding his office and seizing all his records that did it. Right. Or the multiple signals he sent for help from Trump that were ignored."How could ghe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 42 minutes ago, RedskinsFan44 said: Question for the lawyers: If Cohen lied shouldn't Trump sue him to clear his name? (I know he wont) One of the elements of slander is damages. Trump would have to show injury to his reputation and/or earnings. That would be a fun discovery process. Also, the attorney that Trump usually sent after people with bogus, expensive law suits is Michael Cohen and he's automatically disbarred by pleading guilty to a felony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 hour ago, spjunkies said: Soooo trump is saying that a jury is part of this mysterious "witch hunt"? I will say this in a very very mild defense of Trump. I'm fairly certain that they had Cohen nailed to the absolute ****ing wall on any number of charges. Lanny Davis was brought into to mitigate damages. My guess is that Davis said, we'll accept six of the, oh, 165 tax and fraud charges and we'll plead out to the two campaign charges as well. Those campaign charges are the high profile ones and would have been exceedingly difficult to prove as the John Edwards case showed. There is no question in my mind that the payoffs to the two women were made to assist the campaign and were therefore campaign contributions. I think that's tricky to prove to a jury and it would have been almost impossible to proved that Trump directed them in order to assist the campaign. Intent gets very very complicated here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 28 minutes ago, Lombardi's_kid_brother said: I will say this in a very very mild defense of Trump. I'm fairly certain that they had Cohen nailed to the absolute ****ing wall on any number of charges. Lanny Davis was brought into to mitigate damages. My guess is that Davis said, we'll accept six of the, oh, 165 tax and fraud charges and we'll plead out to the two campaign charges as well. Those campaign charges are the high profile ones and would have been exceedingly difficult to prove as the John Edwards case showed. There is no question in my mind that the payoffs to the two women were made to assist the campaign and were therefore campaign contributions. I think that's tricky to prove to a jury and it would have been almost impossible to proved that Trump directed them in order to assist the campaign. Intent gets very very complicated here. So they substituted length and breadth for a quick and concise exercise that hopefully accomplishes more in the long run. I tried this same logic on my wife on our wedding night and she wasn't amused... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 13 minutes ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: So they substituted length and breadth for a quick and concise exercise that hopefully accomplishes more in the long run. I tried this same logic on my wife on our wedding night and she wasn't amused... You should have told her that it's still better than Hillary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Cooked Crack said: Law and order* *But only for the crimes I consider crimes! If it was up to me he would already be impeached, but I can't even get Mueller on board yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFan44 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, twa said: If it was up to me he would already be impeached, but I can't even get Mueller on board yet I think Mueller is trying to do a very thorough job so only 25% of our country loses their minds instead of 40%. Serious business taking down a President. 1 hour ago, twa said: still better than Hillary. Maybe more entertaining in a perverse way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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