Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 59 minutes ago, Destino said: Yeah, but: Carbs are evil.Most plant foods are mostlycarbohydrate. So if “all carbs” are evil, then so are vegetables. Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinwhiteduke Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 lol at agreeing to tax anything !! 4 hours ago, PeterMP said: If your diet is almost entirely fruits and vegetables, a huge part of your diet will be carbs. That's not bad for you. A HUGE part of your diet SHOULD BE carbs. With fiber being a carb, most of your diet should be carbs. Carbs != sugar hell, you dont even need vegetables.. plenty of cultures have lived off fruit alone. 48 minutes ago, PokerPacker said: People are focusing on the health aspect of eating less meat. In that regards, I think it is up to individual responsibility to be healthy. The aspect I see as potentially being a reason to tax it is the environmental impact of the meat industry. That affects everyone regardless of whether or not they partake. taxing serves no other purpose than to screw you over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Tax sugar first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 21 minutes ago, PokerPacker said: People are focusing on the health aspect of eating less meat. In that regards, I think it is up to individual responsibility to be healthy. The aspect I see as potentially being a reason to tax it is the environmental impact of the meat industry. That affects everyone regardless of whether or not they partake. I we ate more environmentalists we could be carbon neutral? Serving up al gore should give me at least 20 cows credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 @PeterMP Quote So if you’re not gluten intolerant, and if you don’t have celiac disease, is bread really that bad for you?No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Quote What about intermittent fasting? Is that actually effective for better gut health and energy levels? It’s “effective” relative to doing nothing. That article is great. I mean I feel dumb reading it but im thoroughly enjoying the jabs at the fad diets and things like fasting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinwhiteduke Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, tshile said: That article is great. I mean I feel dumb reading it but im thoroughly enjoying the jabs at the fad diets and things like fasting Drinking more water and eating less junk , isn't a fad diet. That kind of fasting would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 It must feel pretty cool to have personal expertise in both tax policy and gastronomical anthropology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 8 hours ago, Destino said: Anything that raises cost of food is about the poor. Or at least it should be. And how would this help with national obesity? Less steak does not mean more salad. It means more processed foods, which also happen to be cheap. If you want to tax something that's making people fat, tax added sugar. Took the words. It’s not meat, it’s processed foods, junk foods and take out. I bet...no, I know we eat out more now (3 times as much) as we did when I was a kid. My parents couldn’t afford it and it was a treat (once or twice a month) when we did. I see the the pizza guy across the street at a family of 4 at least twice a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 5 hours ago, DogofWar1 said: If I get the Oven Roasted Chicken from Subway and it's 50% tofu can I be exempt from any consumption taxes? Yes. Any meat you can see your on reflection in will be excluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 You can’t tax it until you figure out a way to make vegetables actually taste good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 51 minutes ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: You can’t tax it until you figure out a way to make vegetables actually taste good Butter garlic and salt works wonders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 7 hours ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: You can’t tax it until you figure out a way to make vegetables actually taste good Penn Jillette found a way. It involved eating nothing but potatoes for two weeks (no salt or butter or any other additives). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 6 hours ago, Destino said: Butter garlic and salt works wonders. As much as I love garlic, I think you should change garlic to bacon for the ultimate how to make the healthy unhealthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 15 hours ago, China said: Did you know that in Mexico Twinkies are called Submarinos? Did you know in America they are called Disgusting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinFanInMinn Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 7 hours ago, Destino said: Butter garlic and salt works wonders. Oops we've missed that one so far. Gotta tax salt too. 12 hours ago, TryTheBeal! said: It must feel pretty cool to have personal expertise in both tax policy and gastronomical anthropology. I is an expert on anything becuz... internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 13 hours ago, thinwhiteduke said: lol at agreeing to tax anything !! taxing serves no other purpose than to screw you over What is the highest grade you completed? 3rd? Do you seriously not understand how taxes work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 7 hours ago, Destino said: Butter garlic and salt works wonders. ALL THE BROCCOLI!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohan Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Is it the tax on meat that they are hoping to have people switch to a plant based, environmentally friendly, possibly healthier diet, because its a tax? In 2010-2011, the beef industry slaughtered a large number females, for the purpose of raising prices. Less females = less breeding = less beef, the price of beef has risen from 2011 to 2016, and slipped a little this past year. This also caused other commodities (Hides) to rise as well. (I worked for a higher end male shoe manufacturer at the time.) Price of leather went up, so did the price of shoes. I don't eat a lot of beef, but the rising prices also didn't prevent me from buying beef when I wanted and I didn't care if the hamburger joint I go to raised the menu prices. We will have to wait for the environmentally, modified bovines that are in the works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinFanInMinn Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Two words: lab-grown meat. what, that’s three words? Whatever. It’s coming, get ready for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 22 hours ago, Destino said: Butter garlic and salt works wonders. and bacon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share Posted March 22, 2018 22 hours ago, Yohan said: Is it the tax on meat that they are hoping to have people switch to a plant based, environmentally friendly, possibly healthier diet, because its a tax? In 2010-2011, the beef industry slaughtered a large number females, for the purpose of raising prices. Less females = less breeding = less beef, the price of beef has risen from 2011 to 2016, and slipped a little this past year. This also caused other commodities (Hides) to rise as well. (I worked for a higher end male shoe manufacturer at the time.) Price of leather went up, so did the price of shoes. I don't eat a lot of beef, but the rising prices also didn't prevent me from buying beef when I wanted and I didn't care if the hamburger joint I go to raised the menu prices. We will have to wait for the environmentally, modified bovines that are in the works. Its a fair criticism but a tax across the board should raise prices just enough to lower consumption through slightly less purchasing. The goal here isn’t to get rid of meat consumption in general. It’s to cut down on meat intake, similar to the trends seen for taxes on sugary drinks and cigarettes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 2 hours ago, No Excuses said: Its a fair criticism but a tax across the board should raise prices just enough to lower consumption through slightly less purchasing. The goal here isn’t to get rid of meat consumption in general. It’s to cut down on meat intake, similar to the trends seen for taxes on sugary drinks and cigarettes. I thought the goal was saving the environment but you're focused on intake. Are you trying to force a very bad dietary change on the country or save the planet? If the goal is environmental it make more sense to discuss that side of things. Something like what the pollutions levels generated by the industry are currently, versus the levels you'd like to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohan Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 28 minutes ago, Destino said: I thought the goal was saving the environment but you're focused on intake. Are you trying to force a very bad dietary change on the country or save the planet? If the goal is environmental it make more sense to discuss that side of things. Something like what the pollutions levels generated by the industry are currently, versus the levels you'd like to see. Quote Bovine livestock are responsible for about 9.5 percent of global greenhouse gas output, according to the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations. Farmers are trying to reduce those emissions with lots of different strategies, starting with their diets. Researchers have tried adding flaxseed oil, garlic, juniper berries, and even seaweed to cow feed. Some scientists at Pennsylvania State University are even genetically modifying the bacteria in cow guts. Simpler tweaks can have an impact, too: Vaccinating cows against common viruses mean fewer cows die, letting farmers focus on raising fewer, healthier cows that live long into adulthood—creating less methane as a result. https://www.wired.com/story/canada-is-using-genetics-to-make-cows-less-gassy/ I'd imagine the tax would have to be significant. Hopefully Ramen Noodles remain unchanged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCSaints_fan Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Tried going vegan once - felt like crud. I seem do best on a high protein, low carb diet, though honestly its hard to maintain. Now I'm focused more on CICO (calories in / calories out), with most of effort being on the CI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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