No Excuses Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 http://fortune.com/2018/02/20/meat-tax-climate-change-health-us/ Quote In the U.S., cigarette taxes have incentivized smoking cessation, and taxes on sugary beverages have nudged Americans to drink more water and less soda, leading to improved public health. Curbing our meat consumption could do the same, which is why organizations like the American Institute for Cancer Research and the American College of Cardiology advise centering our plates on plants to reduce risk of chronic illnesses. According to researchers at the University of Oxford, if Americans switched to vegetarianism en masse, we could reduce our health care costs by up to $223.6 billion each year by 2050, as vegetarians typically have lower rates of Type 2 diabetes, heart disease, and certain forms of cancer. The same experts found that widespread vegetarianism could cut environmental costs by $35 billion, as meat’s role in exacerbating climate change, as well as its contribution to soil erosion, water pollution, deforestation, and biodiversity loss, is well documented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Meat is friggin delicious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Interesting proposition but “meat” is very different from cigarettes or soda. I can’t really see how anything like this would ever happen. *eats banana* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 ...from my COLD DEAD HANDS!!! Damned communists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I'm a meat eater, besides we already have taxes on meat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I support most consumption tax proposals. I have no problem with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Consumption taxes are an overwhelming burden on the poor. The rich could give a ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Let them eat cake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohan Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Why do you want to raise the price of Jordans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I could get behind this. Although my family only eats meat about twice a week anyway. I dropped 40lbs that way. 7 minutes ago, Kilmer17 said: Let them eat cake or beans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, LadySkinsFan said: Consumption taxes are an overwhelming burden on the poor. The rich could give a ****. Yup add to that flat tax proposals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Did I mention how delicious meat is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Just tax bacon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinInsite Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Tax quinoa first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Springfield said: Just tax bacon. Noooooooooooo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: Did I mention how delicious meat is? How do you feel about a Chateaubriand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfitzo53 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 If you want to be completely pragmatic, there are lots of reasons to support this. Most people have no desire to be pragmatic (in terms of the greater good) about their food choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Geez, why not put a consumption tax on all food, as feeding populations takes great resources.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 The obvious solution is to eat the poor. ??? 16 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said: How do you feel about a Chateaubriand? I’d eat that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 30 minutes ago, dfitzo53 said: If you want to be completely pragmatic, there are lots of reasons to support this. Most people have no desire to be pragmatic (in terms of the greater good) about their food choices. Speaking pragmatically there are plenty of reasons to eat deceased human beings. Pragmatism leads to all sorts of horrible consequences. My biggest problem by far with this idea is that consumption taxes are poor taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Can we tax tofu too for being disgusting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, AsburySkinsFan said: Speaking pragmatically there are plenty of reasons to eat deceased human beings. Pragmatism leads to all sorts of horrible consequences. My biggest problem by far with this idea is that consumption taxes are poor taxes. 1. There's all sorts of reasons not eat humans. Your chances of getting various diseases goes way up. 2. Cigarette and alcohol taxes primarily have hurt the poor too (the poor are more likely to smoke especially). The objective is to get everybody, including the poor, to change their behavior, and in general, the idea works. This isn't really a consumption tax at its heart. It is more of a sin tax. 3. From there, in terms of consumption taxes in general, there are various ways not to hit the poor (too much). First and foremost is to simply exempt the things that poor spend most of their money on. A sales tax is really a consumption tax and so most states exempt food (and the poorest of the poor don't even pay for much of their own food) and so most of the money spent by the poor is exempt. Doing things like taxing new cars (or really cars over a certain value), but not lower priced used cars (or taxing them much less) and public transportation would be another approach to avoid a consumption tax from hitting the poor. At an extreme, you could create a rebate system. People that are against consumption taxes because they are going to hit the poor either don't care or don't have much of an imagination. But this isn't that. This is a sin tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Kilmer17 said: Let them eat cake Would eggs be taxed as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, TryTheBeal! said: How do you feel about a Chateaubriand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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