desertbeagle85 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, JSSkinz said: Why is it our players are never viewed as good until they hit free agency? We let 3 players go last year and people griped but none of them had any impact on the teams they played for. We knew Breeland was most likely gone, he's replaceable and I don't think he's that smart, he reminds me of Dez Bryant. I think it's the contract that surprises everyone. As it does me I mean for that cheap I might have kept him around for depth at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Why am I Mr. Pink? Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, CjSuAvE22 said: We draft develop and send young talent away , Breeland was drafted here and is a damn good no.2 corner how does he not fit the mold of draft and develop in house plus he’s only 26 is that old now? Because CB is the one position we seem to hit on. We have solid young players ready to take his spot at 1/8 the cost. Lets take advantage of that. And FA and the draft hasnt even been completed yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchetwound Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, CTskin said: Quoting myself, real cool, I know. But to add on- would you rather see just about the same CB play, if not better, while saving the $8M on Breeland and using it on a stud DT or keep Breeland and drop our available cap down to $7M? Great post (And self quote lol) CTskin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, desertbeagle85 said: I think it's the contract that surprises everyone. As it does me I mean for that cheap I might have kept him around for depth at least. Its a fair point but I never got the feeling he liked being here based on the stuff he put out on social media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternNCbywayofNOVA Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, desertbeagle85 said: Why do you think the Packers released him? Old and took a step back last year. Why do you think the Seahawks didn't make a strong push to keep their 2nd round draft pick? Who is just entering his prime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Why am I Mr. Pink? said: We draft develop and send young talent away The Belichick way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilco_holland Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 One point I would like to make. Just because a player signs with team X for X amount. Doesn't mean he would have taken the same deal with us. Think letting Breeland go is just strategic move. Moreau is not fitted for inside corner. So either Norman or Breeland had to go to let him start. Not huge fan of Breeland as slot corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, CjSuAvE22 said: We draft develop and send young talent away , Breeland was drafted here and is a damn good no.2 corner how does he not fit the mold of draft and develop in house plus he’s only 26 is that old now? I don't know that that is true. We re-signed Reed, Kerrigan, Williams, Thompson, and a host of others. I think you are suffering from the recency effect which is magnified by the guy who dominates every thread. Besides, the Redskins have not been that great at drafting or developing players over the last 20 years. How many players left this team and became a superstar or even a star? Pretty darn few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I'll take DRC to play the slot then take a CB fairly high in the draft. Still holding out hope we get a chance at the Honey Badger to be honest. If we pick up 2 or 3 players who were released from contracts by their teams, and limit our 'true' FA picks ups, we have a good chance of being in line for a couple of decent comp picks next year. We may well lose a lot of our own FA at this rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CjSuAvE22 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, Burgold said: I don't know that that is true. We re-signed Reed, Kerrigan, Williams, Thompson, and a host of others. I think you are suffering from the recency effect which is magnified by the guy who dominates every thread. Besides, the Redskins have not been that great at drafting or developing players over the last 20 years. How many players left this team and became a superstar or even a star? Pretty darn few. Carlos Rodgers Lorenzo Alexander amerson was decent we have a bunch a kickers around the league lol but the biggest one that will sting next feb is cousins when he raises the Lombardi trophy I’m sorry but no teams would have let him go like how we did and the Vikings are gonna be rewarded. I want Jordy Nelson I don’t care that he’s gonna be 33 the receivers on this team need veteran leadership and I can trust him to make catch when we need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchetwound Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Are there any teams that: 1) Have depth at CB 2) Very little cap space It seems a lot of trades are happening where teams are giving up low picks to get solid veterans with one or two years left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Why am I Mr. Pink? Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, JSSkinz said: The Belichick way. When I read what you quoted me as saying, I questioned what the hell was I thinking. Then I read what I actually said. "We draft and develop some guys and they turn out good .. but by the end of their rookie deals they want to get the hell out of DC" ^^ What I actually said. Scared me bc I never ever make absolute statements, never. I always include conditions and riders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilco_holland Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Don't want to go off topic. But in general I like this corner class a lot. So I think you can find players later in the draft. I think it's the spread O in college. Teams play 3 or 4 corners on almost every play. So players get on the field early and often in college. Really helps the development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 We also have Robert Davis and Mo Harris. I’m sure we’d like to see what they can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebeermonkey Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I'm fine with Breeland going. Still unhappy at Fuller going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Disco liked JP FinlayVerified account @JPFinlayNBCS 54s54 seconds ago More Dominque Rodgers-Cromartie still at #Redskins Park, per source. That’s a long visit. Certainly seems like a deal could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, wilco_holland said: Don't want to go off topic. But in general I like this corner class a lot. So I think you can find players later in the draft. I think it's the spread O in college. Teams play 3 or 4 corners on almost every play. So players get on the field early and often in college. Really helps the development. Team likes Tony Allen from Bama. Probably a 4th or 5th rounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebeermonkey Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Skinsinparadise said: Disco liked JP FinlayVerified account @JPFinlayNBCS 54s54 seconds ago More Dominque Rodgers-Cromartie still at #Redskins Park, per source. That’s a long visit. Certainly seems like a deal could happen. He better be cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTskin Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, CjSuAvE22 said: Carlos Rodgers Lorenzo Alexander amerson was decent we have a bunch a kickers around the league lol but the biggest one that will sting next feb is cousins when he raises the Lombardi trophy I’m sorry but no teams would have let him go like how we did and the Vikings are gonna be rewarded. Idk if you know any Vikings fans, but they are not happy about this. Half of my family are Vikings fans and they are beside themselves. And my Jet fan friends are relieved that they didn't get stuck with him at that price. Zero Redskins fans will question the poor handling of his contract, but his situation doesn't belong in the same sentence as Alexander, Rodgers, and Amerson. For the record, Alexander went to the Cards and Oakland after DC and didn't do much there. And Amerson was disturbingly bad last year. Rodgers was great for us, just couldn't catch. It's not like he left year and all of the sudden flourished, they just have better stick-um in SF. Cousins may very well win a trophy next year. He's going to a team that Case Keenum just QBd to the NFC Championship game... that D won't need him to do a whole lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve09ru Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 39 minutes ago, CTskin said: Right, my number is what you have Steve... $21 - $6 (Richardson avgs $8M/yr, so 6M for year 1 is a fair projection) = $15M ... which is the number I've been throwing around. And my deal with the FO is that they can can overpay some scrub for $5M like they always feel the need to do as long as they also sign a stud. For all the Suh lovers, he's on his way to NE for a visit... Sorry thought I saw that number from other folks (not you) prior to the Richardson news. So we have 29M - 8M for Hopkins/Everett/Rookies so down to 21M - 5M to 6M for Richardson leaves us at 15M-16M. Let's say 2M for in-season so down to 13M-14M. So could get: Mo/Richardson at 7M Cap Hit DRC at 3M Cap Hit Bowman at 3M Cap Hit That uses up what we would have and need. Now, we can save money by making some cuts (don't have who/what numbers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Cutting Ziggy Hood would save 1.2 million I believe. If we find a NT replacement in the draft i presume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, thebeermonkey said: He better be cheap Yeah I don't mind the signing if it happens as long as its cheap. Otherwise, don't love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, JamesMadisonSkins said: We also have Robert Davis and Mo Harris. I’m sure we’d like to see what they can do. My gut says in order to beat the Eagles, you need to score 24 point s minimum, probably 27 or 30. Against a hell of a defense. Dallas is probably at least 21+. Not as good of a defense. Call me a massive skeptic, but I just don’t see our group of “weapons” being good enough, regardless if David and Harris contribute. I also grade both CT and Reed on a curve due to proven unavailability. This can ups change if they find a beast of a back in the draft. But they haven’t shown to be able to do that, and Gruden hadn’t shown an ability for his teams to run the ball either as OC in Cincy or HC here. I’d like to see them get another proven guy with some more athletic ability... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I don't want the Giants to get Lewis, go Jets. IB ? @incarceratedbob 6m6 minutes ago More Jets are trying to outbid Dolphins/Colts/Giants/Niners/Titans for Dion Lewis.. much needed play maker for one of these teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTskin Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: Disco liked JP FinlayVerified account @JPFinlayNBCS 54s54 seconds ago More Dominque Rodgers-Cromartie still at #Redskins Park, per source. That’s a long visit. Certainly seems like a deal could happen. I'm okay with the player, we need the slot, but it better not be fore $3M+/yr. Another CB I'm looking at is Delvin Breaux. Killed it two years ago, but then got eaten up by nagging injuries last year. But, if we sign DRC then we need to turn our attention to another position. DT please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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