Reaper Skins Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 My opinion: Gruden is really good at big picture aspects of coaching. I really like his overall philosophy, ability to motivate players, create a healthy, accountable work environment, deal with the media and upper management, and install a successful offense. Where he needs help in my mind is dealing with the nitty gritty day to day details. He is not a micromanager and prefers to let the players police themselves and the locker room. I think this was the reason him and McVay were able to work so well together. Gruden has the great play calling creativity, but McVay was the one who made sure it was executed correctly on gameday. Jay's offense is just as good as it's always been, but I think the players are not executing it nearly as well as last year. Think about how close we've been on some of our busted plays: Doctson in the endzone, Kirk talking about how close he and Pryor were to getting 2 tds last week, etc. McVay was so detail oriented that I think there was an inevitable drop off to our offense's efficiency when he left. Not saying Cavanaugh can't get it done eventually but that seems to be where the issue lies IMO. In my mind Gruden is definitely the one I want leading the ship, but in order to reach the next level, I think he needs to get better assistants he is comfortable delegating to. He is a great big picture coach, but needs a detail oriented coaching staff to help bring his plan into focus. That will lead to better player performances on gameday, and more consistent execution. Having assistants he trusts to delegate more duties to should also help him manage things like playclock and timeouts on gameday because he has less aspects of the offense to worry about personally controlling. One aspect of him that I find promising is he seems to always be willing to try new things to motivate the team. He also is rather quick to admit when things aren't going well and try something new to correct it. I absolutely want him to stay, and am confident that the longer he stays as head coach, the more areas of the game he will be able to figure out what works for him, properly delegate someone who he trusts to execute his vision, and smooth over any remaining rough spots that keep us from getting to the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stefanskins Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 can I buy a 3-month call option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Stefanskins said: can I buy a 3-month call option? There will be a incurred penalty for lack of full commitment, probably 10%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 Come on Jay, I am pulling for you to move me into BUY position, don't give the game away via coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BatteredFanSyndrome Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 It's hard for me to forgive the two runs immediately following the pick. Momentum suckers big time. If there was ever a time for play action, it was right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I'd rather go 3-13 every year with a coach that has the onions to run the ball on 3rd and 1 in Philadelphia than live with a gutless Arena Football 6-10 clown. Now I know why Buddy Ryan slugged Kevin Gilbride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinzorz Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Gruden with his 3rd down calls. I don’t love him or hate him at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Well that didn't last long. Back to sell immediately. i really should have trusted my gut and just stayed on sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 20 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said: Well that didn't last long. Back to sell immediately. i really should have trusted my gut and just stayed on sell. I don't want to be right, I wanna be wrong. But I am going by my gut. By my coaching experience, even if at competitive youth level. I been saying it for years, hoping he would develop. I still hope a miracle occurs and he can get the W here in Philly now. I just don't see how he continues to close out halves the way he does. I want him to learn from his mistakes, but he doesn't. He continues to run on first with box loaded, then throws on 3rd and short, smdh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 poor close to the half again, set team up with Philly scoring and then getting ball at kick off. Two missed challenges, maybe he needs a signal caller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Hello Turner my old friend, it's sad to see Norv again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayouBrave86 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 The guy is a moron in-game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCoach22 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Who would buy this **** sack? Bargain bin at the 99 cent store sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_R Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 The only thing I'd buy is a gif of his dumbass face in the second half. Surely somebody has a screengrab of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoDeep81 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 In 4 years time Gruden has gotten them to not false start as much.. Anything else he's improved on? I can't think of anything.. We saw his best the 1st day he took the HC hat.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyst Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 After 4 years he’ll be around 500. Not great, not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I was 7 during Norv’s last year I feel like this is what Norv felt like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Gruden right now is a hold. He's not a strong sell, a buy, or a strong buy. We do need to take injuries into account with this team, but man, he sure knows how to take his foot off the throttle and loves going stupid at the wrong time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabidskin Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Sell, Sell, Sell....Bruce Allen giveaway for free.....Gruden for a dollar.....send Pryor to Dallas practice squad for free and time to let Junior Gallette walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Just now, rabidskin said: Sell, Sell, Sell....Bruce Allen giveaway for free.....Gruden for a dollar.....send Pryor to Dallas practice squad for free and time to let Junior Gallette walk. I take it if this was options trading that you're shorting the front office and Gruden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar1156 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Won't sell quite yet. But I'm damn close. Tonight had to be one of his worst coached games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlkyCaramel Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Tonight is probably the worst playcalling I have seen from him. 2nd and 2 - pass 3rd and 2 - pass 3rd and 1 - pass 3rd and 1 - pass All incomplete. Why? The playcalling before the half was inexcusable though. Calling a pass on 3rd and 1 with 2 minutes to go was just unbelievable. The pass is incomplete, the clock stops, Philly gets the ball back to run a 2 minute offense (which the Redskins defense is notoriously bad at) and they of course score PLUS they get the ball to start the second half. Four plays changed the momentum of this game Offense - The passes called on two separate 3rd and 1 plays (both times out of the shotgun too so an obvious passing situation) Defense - The long TD that Swearinger gave up and the Wentz scramble A lot of things went wrong in this game but I put the primary blame on Gruden. Having said that, I'm not ready to sell yet but if he calls another game like this one? BYE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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