Corcaigh Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Flicking through the channels saw Beto being interviewed. A journalist asked ... “Sir, regarding the manifesto and everything that was in it, fears about Hispanic immigration, all that, does any of this fall at the feet of President Donald Trump and his rhetoric that’s been growing turnover last couple weeks and his alleged racist Tweets and other rhetoric?” “Yes,” O’Rourke replied. “We’ve had a rise in hate crimes every single one of the last three years during an administration where you have a president who’s called Mexican rapists and criminals, though Mexicans immigrants commit crimes at far lower rate than those born in this country. “He is a racist and he stokes racism in this country,” O’Rourke declared. “And it does not just offend our sensibilities, it fundamentally changes the character of this country and it leads to violence.” 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 He traveled 650 miles to commit the act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 49 minutes ago, RansomthePasserby said: Assault rifles are loud as crap. He was caught alive, so it doesn’t seem like he was planning to die today, unlike some of the other shooters in the past. Yes, I'm aware they are loud. Thanks. But when have you ever seen a shooter wear PPE like that before? I just find it interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Taze Me Bro Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, No Excuses said: Right wing domestic terrorism isn't a "both sides" issue. Mass shootings have been a problem long before 2016 to current. The problem is both sides, imo. And the bigger issue is the fact that its set up to be a two party system. After Ross Perot made waves almost three decades ago (1992), they changed the debate rules (increasing the % of the 3 major polls to be included) so it basically makes it impossible for a third party to be included in a presidential debate. For the record, I never voted for Trump. I voted Hillary, which I thought was the lesser of two evils. If I had voted for the person I felt was the best candidate, it would have been Gary Johnson. Never again will I not vote for who I think the best candidate is, last time I did, it failed me. For the record, I don't believe either side really wants to do anything for gun control, mainly because of political reasons and votes (and I believe the left uses it for votes from the gun control crowd as much as the right does with the pro-gun crowd ). Edited August 4, 2019 by Dont Taze Me Bro 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Renegade7 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dont Taze Me Bro said: For the record, I don't believe either side really wants to do anything for gun control, mainly because of political reasons and votes (and I believe the left uses it for votes from the gun control crowd as much as the right does with the pro-gun crowd ). This is not fair, Dems tried to get bills passed in the house after Netwon and couldn't even get a vote thanks to Paul Ryan. Similar thing is happening in Virginia right now following the shooting in Va Beach municipal center. The only states with universal background checks are ones the Dems have control of governorship and state legislature. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Taze Me Bro Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Skintime said: LOL...NO No on the mass shootings being an issue before Trump/2016 or no that both sides are failing us? https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Dont Taze Me Bro said: For the record, I don't believe either side really wants to do anything for gun control, mainly because of political reasons and votes (and I believe the left uses it for votes from the gun control crowd as much as the right does with the pro-gun crowd ). This entire post is a steaming load of nonsense. From red flag laws to stringent background checks, democratic lawmakers have been passing gun safety legislation all across the country at the local and state level: https://momsdemandaction.org/about/victories/ Right now, there is federal legislation on universal background checks, passed by the House and waiting for a vote in the Senate. It will never get brought up for a simple up and down vote in the Senate. I’ll let you figure out why. Edited August 4, 2019 by No Excuses 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Taze Me Bro Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 minute ago, No Excuses said: This entire post is a steaming load of nonsense. From red flag laws to age restrictions, democratic lawmakers have been passing gun safety legislation all across the country at the local and state level: https://momsdemandaction.org/about/victories/ Right now, there is federal legislation on universal background checks, passed by the House and waiting for a vote in the Senate. It will never get brought up for a simple up and down vote in the Senate. I’ll let you figure out why. I'm not against gun control, as long as it's common sense. You can look back at my posts in the Gun Control Thread and see that. I've even said that I'd welcome another assault rifle ban as long as it was the same when Clinton passed it (being grandfathered in) or if the government fairly reimbursed those who would possess banned weapons under the new ban. I'm open to a lot of new gun control measures and restrictions. But right now the right is being assholes along with the left not willing to compromise and implement common sense laws at a minimum. Both sides are playing to their voter base. Just like both sides do in regards to abortion, immigration, stem cell research, [insert hot controversial topic here], etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: Yes, I'm aware they are loud. Thanks. But when have you ever seen a shooter wear PPE like that before? I just find it interesting. Most figure they will die, he was obviously not planning on dying. Police should have disappointed him. Edited August 4, 2019 by AsburySkinsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Taze Me Bro Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: This is not fair, Dems tried to get bills passed in the house after Netwon and couldn't even get a vote thanks to Paul Ryan. Similar thing is happening in Virginia right now following the shooting in Va Beach municipal center. The only states with universal background checks are ones the Dems have control of governorship and state legislature. Well, both sides have had a chance since 1992 to get more **** done and here we are in 2019 with nothing done. I'm pro gun, but also pro common sense gun laws. Neither side wants to work together, imo. If they did, the left would start small with things like magazine capacity, etc. and the right would listen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 These people are poison. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dont Taze Me Bro said: I'm open to a lot of new gun control measures and restrictions. But right now the right is being assholes along with the left not willing to compromise and implement common sense laws at a minimum. Both sides are playing to their voter base. Just like both sides do in regards to abortion, immigration, stem cell research, [insert hot controversial topic here], etc. Compromise happens when people are actually willing to debate. The House passed legislation on universal background checks and rather than opening the bill to debate and amendment on the senate floor, the GOP will let the bill die. I respect your opinion but you are flat out wrong about process. One side is open to policy on this issue and the other has decided that ignoring the issue is better than even debating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Just now, Dont Taze Me Bro said: Well, both sides have had a chance since 1992 to get more **** done and here we are in 2019 with nothing done. I'm pro gun, but also pro common sense gun laws. Neither side wants to work together, imo. If they did, the left would start small with things like magazine capacity, etc. and the right would listen. 3 That is NOT what's happening at all. These bills are not being voted on when Republicans are in the way no matter what the proposal is, no matter how small it is. There may be a middle ground between liberals and conservatives in this country, but there is no middle ground with Republican elected officials right now working for the NRA. We didn't have mass shootings the way we do now back in 1992, lets stick to the 21st century or at least the last decade this has gotten completely out of control, please. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 25 minutes ago, spjunkies said: These people are poison. So is the article he referenced a problem for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Taze Me Bro Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 49 minutes ago, No Excuses said: Compromise happens when people are actually willing to debate. The House passed legislation on universal background checks and rather than opening the bill to debate and amendment on the senate floor, the GOP will let the bill die. I respect your opinion but you are flat out wrong about process. One side is open to policy on this issue and the other has decided that ignoring the issue is better than even debating. I'm for universal background checks and other measures as well. Both sides fail us because they refuse to address common sense gun control. Because it does not benefit their voter demographic. You can keep on supporting the left if you want. I refuse to support either the left or right. Both parties sicken me, tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 The maga crowd is already calling this another Dem con job like Sandy Hook orchestrated by Dem candidates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Taze Me Bro Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Renegade7 said: That is NOT what's happening at all. These bills are not being voted on when Republicans are in the way no matter what the proposal is, no matter how small it is. There may be a middle ground between liberals and conservatives in this country, but there is no middle ground with Republican elected officials right now working for the NRA. We didn't have mass shootings the way we do now back in 1992, lets stick to the 21st century or at least the last decade this has gotten completely out of control, please. Dude, during Obama there were 30+ mass killings. Of course it was less in 1992, that's never been my point. My point is both parties suck ass right now. And if I'm being perfectly honest, the current dems suck donkey dick, there is no way in hell I'd vote for any of those socialism pricks. And Bernie, he's the biggest ****ing joke of them all. Most likely, I'll either not vote or vote for the best 3rd party candidate. On a side note, you know I love you bro, RTT represent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Dont Taze Me Bro said: You can keep on supporting the left if you want. I refuse to support either the left or right. Both parties sicken me, tbh. This kind of "enlightened centrist" rubbish doesn't make you look like you're better than everyone else. It just makes you look like you've got your head up your ass. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) This thread didn’t even make it halfway down the page and here we go again... Edited August 4, 2019 by skinsfan_1215 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Nine dead, at least 16 hurt in the Dayton, Ohio shooting. Insanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Welcome to America. I predict there will be another mass shooting next week with more than 5 people dead. And guess what, the odds are in my favor of being correct. What a sick world we live in. Guns all over the place, people killing people. I wonder if it will ever end? Probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Burgold Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 4 hours ago, Dont Taze Me Bro said: Dude, during Obama there were 30+ mass killings. Of course it was less in 1992, that's never been my point. My point is both parties suck ass right now. And if I'm being perfectly honest, the current dems suck donkey dick, there is no way in hell I'd vote for any of those socialism pricks. And Bernie, he's the biggest ****ing joke of them all. Most likely, I'll either not vote or vote for the best 3rd party candidate. On a side note, you know I love you bro, RTT represent! Again. The Democrats have proposed bill after bill. Obama begged for legislation. He stumped for it. McConnell and Ryan wouldn't allow anything. It didn't matter who was in the White House. Today, McConnell will not even allow a vote because he's afraid he might lose. This is not "a both sides stink" issue. This is a "one side stink"s issue unless you don't believe in gun control and think the cure to mass shootings is "thoughts and prayers". Hell, Republicans even vote against every mental health initiative out there which underscores the lie that they think gun violence is a mental health problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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