Wildbunny Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 3 hours ago, visionary said: I laughed, but it seems like he's trying to influence the court to support him over Biden. Nah he wouldn't do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Interesting.....I've been talking with people here lately and it has moved away from any specifics and is mostly the exact type of looming dread that others mention here. Yanno how we've heard the stories of people in CA before an earthquake and they talk about their pets getting antsy, cattle getting restless, bird flocking away? That's where we are now, earthquake weather, these stresses having been building for decades, piling up bit by bit and we are on the verge of something active, the earth is going to move under our feet. Noticing this just means you're paying attention, kudos. Either way we are on the cusp of major, massive change and that always comes with its own share of collateral damage and (probably) bloodshed. There's no shame in hunkering down a tad to see what lands on your roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techboy Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 In terms of the dread, I think the best comparison is the coronavirus. Yes, there's a 90%+ chance I'll be fine, but there's a small but real chance it'll do real damage to me, and even if I come out of it okay, it could spread to those around me and hurt them. Probably a little on the nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Is the U.S. Prepared to Resist a Coup? If Trump refuses to step down, we must be ready to not cooperate. https://progressive.org/dispatches/is-us-prepared-to-resist-coup-zunes-201026/?fbclid=IwAR3cnx5AB7wE9pLKvaw1mYKru6K7dAoKGf6KWaC9bcH-n2d-1QkHu9FH1Ko#.X5hYipA8ETA.facebook Are you? Are any of us? It's one thing to sit on your ass and gripe online, but who is genuinely willing to do more? The question deserves some thought and soul searching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 42 minutes ago, Wildbunny said: Nah he wouldn't do that . . . so subtly. 4 minutes ago, LD0506 said: If Trump refuses to step down, we must be ready to not cooperate. Just reflecting on how I would feel, if the exact same thing were being quoted from a Trump supporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Larry said: . . . so subtly. Just reflecting on how I would feel, if the exact same thing were being quoted from a Trump supporter. I know and I agree, that's the soul searching part I mentioned. This is hard, there are no definitive answers right now, even if you want to do the right thing how in the unholy **** do you decide exactly what that should be? And I am just as selfish and craven and unnecessarily bold and willfully unbalanced as everyone else, but I am also very much a "look before you leap" kinda guy and I'm looking, looking, looking, looking for a lilypad to land on and I'm not seeing **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 6 hours ago, visionary said: I'm sure some will get a kick out of this. Hardywood is good stuff, for sure. 6 hours ago, visionary said: I like Mayor Pete. He's a good dude and I wish more in his party would view Fox News this way. I hope he gets a better shot at office in the coming years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 So I got to thinking this morning, simply from a meta standpoint. For those worries about a Biden loss, do you remember what happened in 2018? First of all, it was a midterm election. Second, the republicans took a historic beating. Why did people come out in waves to vote? They wanted Trump gone. What have republicans done to earn the vote of the public in the last 2 years? What’s changed? Nothing. They didn’t confirm an impeachment. They rushed through a Supreme Court nominee. They bungled the Covid response. Trump is getting annihilated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoyler23 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 32 minutes ago, Springfield said: Trump is getting annihilated. He cancelled his watch party at Trump Tower to stay in the White House that night. Doesn’t sound like someone who is optimistic to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins59 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Whatever the outcome this year, I am going to be very calm, or so I hope. In 2016, I could not sleep. I then had to go to work to find Trump supporters all giddy. Thankfully this time, I am working from home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BatteredFanSyndrome Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 For anyone hoping to take a victory lap late on Nov. 3rd or early on Nov. 4th, I'd cool my jets. I'm skeptical by nature, but I feel this is going to be one long, drawn out **** show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 The idea we’d have an answer either way on election night or the day after seems optimistic. I’m expecting it to take like 2 weeks. but maybe I’m just being pessimistic. the subject of him refusing to leave and a coup: im in wait and see mode. I don’t see the point in getting worked up. Too many possible paths it could take to waste time caring about one specific path or two. but generally speaking I value our democracy/republic and I consider our votes counting as a core thing about it all. I’ll leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, tshile said: The idea we’d have an answer either way on election night or the day after seems optimistic. I’m expecting it to take like 2 weeks. but maybe I’m just being pessimistic. the subject of him refusing to leave and a coup: im in wait and see mode. I don’t see the point in getting worked up. Too many possible paths it could take to waste time caring about one specific path or two. but generally speaking I value our democracy/republic and I consider our votes counting as a core thing about it all. I’ll leave it at that. I agree, I don't think we're getting an answer on Tuesday night. In regards to him refusing to leave, I think it's a strong possibility. Here's the deal: He's told us all along who he is and what he is, he hasn't deviated. I'd say there's a 75% chance he doesn't leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Spaceman Spiff said: In regards to him refusing to leave, I think it's a strong possibility. Here's the deal: He's told us all along who he is and what he is, he hasn't deviated. I'd say there's a 75% chance he doesn't leave. Covid is already going to put a damper on the holiday season, I can only imagine that Trump and whatever shenanigans the GOP drum up are sure to absolutely ruin it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: Covid is already going to put a damper on the holiday season, I can only imagine that Trump and whatever shenanigans the GOP drum up are sure to absolutely ruin it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: Covid is already going to put a damper on the holiday season, I can only imagine that Trump and whatever shenanigans the GOP drum up are sure to absolutely ruin it. Yes, he could totally **** up Christmas. He could even ruin pizza if he set his focus on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: I agree, I don't think we're getting an answer on Tuesday night. In regards to him refusing to leave, I think it's a strong possibility. Here's the deal: He's told us all along who he is and what he is, he hasn't deviated. I'd say there's a 75% chance he doesn't leave. That’s fine. I’m not arguing. but whatever it is I’m going to do it can wait until I know exactly what the situation is before I decide what to do. but the other night with friends, to give you a general idea, my comment was basically: if our votes don’t count then I don’t see the point in going to work the next day. if everything is going to fall apart, fine. I’ll deal with it best I can. Whatever that winds up meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Springfield said: So I got to thinking this morning, simply from a meta standpoint. For those worries about a Biden loss, do you remember what happened in 2018? First of all, it was a midterm election. Second, the republicans took a historic beating. Why did people come out in waves to vote? They wanted Trump gone. What have republicans done to earn the vote of the public in the last 2 years? What’s changed? Nothing. They didn’t confirm an impeachment. They rushed through a Supreme Court nominee. They bungled the Covid response. Trump is getting annihilated. The election ends peacefully if two of the following states go blue on election night, which we will know because they won’t have much ballot counting after Nov 3; FL, OH, GA, TX, IA If all of them go red, and the rust belt states are moderately close, we are in for a real **** show because they will all need to count ballots well after election night. This is my nightmare scenario. I admit I have a lot of anxiety heading into this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Also in my “I’ll just leave if things get that bad” long term outlook over the years I neglected to factor in something like covid and how it could cause things to happen in a way, or just too quickly or cause too much distraction, to prevent from leaving before you can no longer leave... All that said I have faith in our democracy. until I don’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 There’s something happening here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, skinsfan_1215 said: There’s something happening here... the people who constant project their own misdeeds and dishonest on others, have been telling us it’s going to be rigged so maybe things like this aren’t awesome turnout news about people taking their democracy seriously maybe it’s he first signs of fraud from the right. or maybe I drank too much and am just being pessimistic 🤪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 8 hours ago, zskins said: Biden is going to use Clorox to clean up the White House. He needs something stronger than Clorox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, tshile said: or maybe I drank too much and am just being pessimistic I don't think it's the alcohol talking. He's been trying to muddy the water on this election for the last six months relentlessly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 hours ago, techboy said: In terms of the dread, I think the best comparison is the coronavirus. Yes, there's a 90%+ chance I'll be fine, but there's a small but real chance it'll do real damage to me, and even if I come out of it okay, it could spread to those around me and hurt them. Probably a little on the nose. My concern with corona is what long term damage has been done to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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