SkinsGuy Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/22/fifty-senators-send-letter-pushing-nfl-to-change-redskins-name/ http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13626118/congressional-bill-aims-force-washington-redskins-name-change The first link you put up was not a congressional declaration. That was just a bunch of democrats (yes, with a little 'd' ), writing a letter whining about the name. That was a political party move, not a congressional move. No Republicans signed the letter. Now you know why they took back the Senate. The second link was simply the delegate from D.C., Eleanor Norton, trying to make a useless gesture by putting a bill out there to get rid of the name. Ms. Norton has NO VOTE in Congress, and her bills are non-binding to them. No one paid attention to it. So you can't blame all of Congress for her silly grandstanding. Again, outside of that louse Harry Reid prattling on about it, Congress has made no move against the name. Republicans control Congress right now, and pretty much all of them support the Redskins' first amendment right to use the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearfeather Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 That was a political party move, not a congressional move. No Republicans signed the letter. ( Nor were they offered the opportunity ) Now you know why they took back the Senate. Again, outside of that louse Harry Reid ( agreed. Harry Reid is a card carrying louse ) prattling on about it, Congress has made no move against the name. Republicans control Congress right now, and pretty much all of them support the Redskins' first amendment right to use the name. ( I think even most Democrats would support the Redskins first amendment right to use the name ) I don't think we should go too far in this direction in this particular thread, but it's somewhat understandable, as a few people still think there will be some kind of tie-in between a new stadium and a name change. There won't be. But, there are a few who still think or hope it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I don't think we should go too far in this direction in this particular thread, but it's somewhat understandable, as a few people still think there will be some kind of tie-in between a new stadium and a name change. There won't be. But, there are a few who still think or hope it will. I agree. No politics on the Stadium board. Just pointing out to him where he was incorrect in his links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo'sRangers Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 OK, when will the drawings be unveiled? I'm kinda pissed off because in LAST nights drawing I had the Powerball & three numbers. A $100 bucks, which is fine. BUT, one more number, $50 grand. Another? 1 million. One MORE? Well you know. I feel lucky (1 in 15,000 for $100) but....damnit. Actual drawings now matter to me . Hail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 People saying the new stadium will be a 50k seater are way off imo. Doesn't make sense from a marketing perspective. Snyder will want to compete with Jerry Jones as much as possible. I could see it being pretty jaw droppingly big. Definitely no smaller than FedEx. If the Redskins built a 50,000 seat stadium, they'd be the laughing stock of the league. I think it will be in the 75,000 range with the possibility to expand for big events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I wish they'd do something to replicate the "vibration" I've heard RFK had when fans stomped there. Some of you guys went to RFK, I never did, but I've heard that when the crowd got going it was like the whole stadium would shake. That would be awesome, and something that set our stadium apart from other NFL stadiums. The Packers had/have their heated turf, the Seahawks their stadium is supposedly designed to make it louder, this would be pretty awesome for Skins home games. From a interview concerning the new stadium, Dan said he had asked for exactly this, and told it could be done. So, you'll get your wish....as will hundreds of thousands of old skool fans like me that would love to see it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeast Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I hope they don't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemoveSnyder Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I will say that I appreciate the design concept of a transparent roof for the Inglewood stadium. Artist rendition may not be fully realized if structural limitations arise. Particularly any safety concerns surrounding huge panes of glass suspended overhead, particularly in earthquake prone California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Just copy what the Seahawks did with CenturyLink. Simple as that. No, that place is ugly as poop plus we don't need some artificial noise roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qdeathstar Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I will say that I appreciate the design concept of a transparent roof for the Inglewood stadium. <STAFF EDIT, RULE 11, DON'T QUOTE PICS, MEMBER PENALIZED> Artist rendition may not be fully realized if structural limitations arise. Particularly any safety concerns surrounding huge panes of glass suspended overhead, particularly in earthquake prone California. or. ants buring under the suffocating heat of a magnifying glass. DEM CURVES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I will say that I appreciate the design concept of a transparent roof for the Inglewood stadium. Artist rendition may not be fully realized if structural limitations arise. Particularly any safety concerns surrounding huge panes of glass suspended overhead, particularly in earthquake prone California. Damn, I almost forgot about San Andreas. I'd want nothing to do with a dome stadium anywhere near that fault line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemoveSnyder Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 or. ants buring under the suffocating heat of a magnifying glass. DEM CURVES Uh, it's already technologically feasible to put UV protection in glass. It doesn't necessarily have to change the tint either. If they wanted to tint it blue or green, like a lot of high rise office buildings, I guess they could do that. It's going to be a balance between the number of panes, UV protection, color and how to limit the loss of conditioned air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boston skins fan Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I will say that I appreciate the design concept of a transparent roof for the Inglewood stadium. Artist rendition may not be fully realized if structural limitations arise. Particularly any safety concerns surrounding huge panes of glass suspended overhead, particularly in earthquake prone California. As an engineer (beit not a structural Engineer) I know for a fact that a design is possible to protect against an earthquake (to a certain extent). I doubt any structure could with stand the effect of a 7.0 earthquake. But the calculations are redonk and endless. The issue wont be design the issue is making sure that every bolt and weld hits spec and is placed in the proper location. if 1 bolt is put even 1/4" off and not the proper strength the whole structure could be compromised. that is on the field engineers and Inspectors. Same issue could be said of the new minni stadium of with the weight of the snow. I read an article that they had gotten the wrong glass a yr or so ago. This could've definitely been an issue had it not been corrected. It takes an extreme amount of communication to ensure that the project gets done properly and a lapse in said communication could make the project go over budget, schedule, or even a malfunction of some sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSkins0721 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I will say that I appreciate the design concept of a transparent roof for the Inglewood stadium. <pic> Artist rendition may not be fully realized if structural limitations arise. Particularly any safety concerns surrounding huge panes of glass suspended overhead, particularly in earthquake prone California. Not to mention the magnifying glass effect on the people under the direct LA sun. Reminds me of killing ants when I was a little kid. Edit: dammit...I guess I should have read ahead before posting. Sorry for the dupe response Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetThePointsSoar Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Any idea on timeframes of when they might actually release a rendition of it? I keep checking the thread to see if there has been an update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 From Loverro -- he thinks the new LA stadium will put pressure on Dan to do something similar/wow category http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jan/14/rams-stadium-saga-underscores-challenges-redskins/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins Reparations Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 The house that Scot built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAILstorm Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 President - Cheryl Boone Isaacs From Loverro -- he thinks the new LA stadium will put pressure on Dan to do something similar/wow category http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jan/14/rams-stadium-saga-underscores-challenges-redskins/ D.C is a wealthy area and all, but I don't think we need to match the new L.A stadium. They have a metro area of 18 million to our 6-7 million (I believe). That $2.6 billion will be easily paid back, especially with events like the Superbowl, Academy Awards, Final Fours, etc. It'll be a year round destination. I apologize if somebody has touched upon this earlier, but have the Redskins considered the National Harbor site? Shops, hotels, restaurants, and the new casino will be right there and it can expand further into an entertainment district. I know Gov. Hogan is willing to work with the team on staying in Maryland plus it'll be relatively close to the Redskins NoVA fanbase. And I'm wondering (from the article) if I read that right, Jack Kent Cooke was looking to move the team to L.A? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFKFedEx Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 LA's new design makes me think our next building will be in Loudoun County, more than ever before. It's not just a stadium, but a campus nowadays. Snyder will want control of all the development around the building. Perhaps our next practice facility will also be included on this campus. Our current facility is a POS. I want our football team back on East Capitol St. as bad as anybody, but I just don't see it happening with the way these stadiums are evolving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJD2 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 LA's new design makes me think our next building will be in Loudoun County, more than ever before. It's not just a stadium, but a campus nowadays. Snyder will want control of all the development around the building. Perhaps our next practice facility will also be included on this campus. Our current facility is a POS. I want our football team back on East Capitol St. as bad as anybody, but I just don't see it happening with the way these stadiums are evolving. I agree It won't be enough anymore to just have a stadium, it will need to be a "destination". Jerry World started it but KroenkeWorld will be unreal and will take things to whole other level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFKFedEx Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I agree It won't be enough anymore to just have a stadium, it will need to be a "destination". Jerry World started it but KroenkeWorld will be unreal and will take things to whole other level. Kraft has done wonders with his Patriot Place campus in Foxborough, which used to be in the middle of nowhere. The Atlanta Braves are also following a similar model with their new ballpark north of the city. I disagree w/ you about Jerruh World bc I don't believe the Cowboys control the land beyond their stadium plot in Arlington. The village in NE is clearly tied to the stadium, as will Atl and LA's. The national chains who anchor in these villages partner with the teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyandSam Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 D.C is a wealthy area and all, but I don't think we need to match the new L.A stadium. They have a metro area of 18 million to our 6-7 million (I believe). That $2.6 billion will be easily paid back, especially with events like the Superbowl, Academy Awards, Final Fours, etc. It'll be a year round destination. I apologize if somebody has touched upon this earlier, but have the Redskins considered the National Harbor site? Shops, hotels, restaurants, and the new casino will be right there and it can expand further into an entertainment district. I know Gov. Hogan is willing to work with the team on staying in Maryland plus it'll be relatively close to the Redskins NoVA fanbase. And I'm wondering (from the article) if I read that right, Jack Kent Cooke was looking to move the team to L.A? The National Harbor site is the likely location IF Maryland wins the location contest. The old Oxen Hill Farm has plenty of space for a new stadium complex. The local beat reporters seem infatuated with the site as the most likely location. But it has its share of problems, including bad traffic access and no Metro. Both could be improved with significant public funds to route a Metro there and to expand highway access. But access roads from both 495 and 295 will fix the car issue. But there will still be major traffic getting out of that location. Loudoun County beyond Dulles Airport is also the other likely location. A couple of large parcels are near the team's current facility and all the players and coaches live in VA. The long trek to PG County has always been a pain. And clearly more governmental support from VA than MD. And finally, a lot more $$$$ lives in Fairfax and Loudoun counties to support a large sports complex like Patriots Place and the Kroenke World in LA. But traffic will be an issue there also. A metro line is already scheduled to be built that way on the Silver line. Just a matter of money and location of the transit stop. I think DC is dead in the water. The DC politicians won't even say "Redskins" and the only suitable land is owned by the Federal Government which will just make the name issue more visible not less. Not sure why fans think DC is the best location. Traffic access is very poor and the current Metro stop nearby is a plus but nothing that cannot be built at either of the other two locations. Parking and tailgating will be virtually none existent let alone no place for Snyder to build complimentary businesses to support the cost of the new palace. The neighborhoods surrounding RFK have already been vocal they do not want an NFL stadium bordering their properties. Won't matter to me anyway I suppose because a new stadium wherever it is built will force me to give up my season tickets. No stinkin' PSL for this Redskins fan....one of the last great things JKC did for Redskins fans. Thanks Jack! wherever you are....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Loudoun County beyond Dulles Airport is also the other likely location. A couple of large parcels are near the team's current facility and all the players and coaches live in VA. The long trek to PG County has always been a pain. And clearly more governmental support from VA than MD. And finally, a lot more $$$$ lives in Fairfax and Loudoun counties to support a large sports complex like Patriots Place and the Kroenke World in LA. But traffic will be an issue there also. A metro line is already scheduled to be built that way on the Silver line. Just a matter of money and location of the transit stop. You're right that DC is dead in the water. It continues to baffle me how they can even try to persuade the team to return when the Mayor won't even say the word "Redskins," then comes off as a petulant child because Dan Snyder won't return her calls. Traffic in Eastern Loudoun, which is already a disaster, would be a tragedy if the 'Skins moved anywhere in the area and would require huge infrastructure improvements along 7 and even 28. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 You're right that DC is dead in the water. It continues to baffle me how they can even try to persuade the team to return when the Mayor won't even say the word "Redskins," then comes off as a petulant child because Dan Snyder won't return her calls. Traffic in Eastern Loudoun, which is already a disaster, would be a tragedy if the 'Skins moved anywhere in the area and would require huge infrastructure improvements along 7 and even 28. Nick Traffic in Eastern Loudoun sucks at rush hours, but how much additional or improved infrastructure are you looking for to accommodate 8 Sunday afternoons per year? I mean, if it becomes a destination with other attractions, then infrastructure updates would come naturally, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Traffic in Eastern Loudoun sucks at rush hours, but how much additional or improved infrastructure are you looking for to accommodate 8 Sunday afternoons per year? I mean, if it becomes a destination with other attractions, then infrastructure updates would come naturally, right? I'd think the County would have caveats demanding changes and improvements in whatever agreement came to pass... or at least I'd hope. As bad as rush hour is, imagine 75-80k from the surrounding areas flooding 28 and 7, not to mention prime-time weeknight games. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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