Momma There Goes That Man Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 So are we getting design pics this month or not? I guess the report that first broke this was kind of sketchy so I'm not counting on it. Definitely would love to see it though. I guess not lol. Disappointing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFKFedEx Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 I'm glad. Find a location first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hail2skins Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Jaguars have the Redskins building a new stadium within the next 5 years apparently. Weird since they're stuck at FedEx for a while. Snyder has said for at least a year that they were starting to work on the design, so it wouldn't be unexpected to see renderings in the not-too-distant future, even if it didn't occur by the end of January as the tweet in the OP suggested. And given that, even though I think it will be a lengthy process to secure the location for the stadium, I don't see how we'll be at FedEx until 2027. Agreements are made to be broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyandSam Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Jaguars have the Redskins building a new stadium within the next 5 years apparently. Weird since they're stuck at FedEx for a while. https://twitter.com/APMarkLong/status/693106833943326720 Leases can always be bought out for a price, especially if they stay in Prince Georges County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander -JB- Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 "We have worked with our team to imagine a facility that can be active both inside and outside all year and all week — not just on a game day," Ingels told Kennicott. "Also we have sought to distill the stadium experience—before, during and after the game—to its essential ingredients—to provide the greatest intimacy for the players and fans, and in doing so to create a more compact and efficient stadium as opposed to the colossal facilities of the past.” - Bjarke Ingels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 If they worked some columns into the inside or outside (or both) like the old Soldier Field... man. That would be impressive. I like the retro idea... everyone is trying to "out new" everyone else. A retro look with modern capabilities would be outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 "We have worked with our team to imagine a facility that can be active both inside and outside all year and all week — not just on a game day," Ingels told Kennicott. "Also we have sought to distill the stadium experience—before, during and after the game—to its essential ingredients—to provide the greatest intimacy for the players and fans, and in doing so to create a more compact and efficient stadium as opposed to the colossal facilities of the past.” - Bjarke Ingels I like the sound of this. Where is this from and is it in reference to the work they did on OUR stadium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chew Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I like the sound of this. Where is this from and is it in reference to the work they did on OUR stadium? he's the lead architect of the design firm hired by the Redskins https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/digger/wp/2016/01/06/source-redskins-advance-plans-to-relocate-hire-googles-architect-for-new-stadium/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 he's the lead architect of the design firm hired by the Redskins https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/digger/wp/2016/01/06/source-redskins-advance-plans-to-relocate-hire-googles-architect-for-new-stadium/ cool, so he said that about his vision for the Redskin stadium or some other project he's done previously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 cool, so he said that about his vision for the Redskin stadium or some other project he's done previously? It's the typical bull**** someone says when they're trying to close a deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rise of DC Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Leases can always be bought out for a price, especially if they stay in Prince Georges County. Interesting, and I'm sure having the CEO of FedEx on your side is a good thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 It's the typical bull**** someone says when they're trying to close a deal Our stadium is going to be a soul-less experience designed to extract as much money from upper middle class employees of the local service economy as fast as humanly possible while simultaneously catering to the selected representatives of our many fine corporate partners. We envision this stadium as the fulcrum of a 30 to 40 year financial exchange from the taxpayers of the DC Metro area to the billionaire investors of the National Football League. Thank you and have a nice day. In all seriousness, I moved from Northern Virginia in 2009, but if I still lived there, I would be opposed to this thing touching one inch of ground in the Commonwealth. The traffic ripples from a 1 PM Sunday kickoff would still be felt at 7 AM on Tuesday, I would imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 In all seriousness, I moved from Northern Virginia in 2009, but if I still lived there, I would be opposed to this thing touching one inch of ground in the Commonwealth. The traffic ripples from a 1 PM Sunday kickoff would still be felt at 7 AM on Tuesday, I would imagine. I wonder how big a deal that really is to most people on this board. Sure, once every two years we'll host a MNF game and traffic will legitimately be horrible around rush hour that day. But on a typical Sunday afternoon, I don't really care if there's traffic out by me. I have to run around locally, but I'm rarely going much further than the grocery store or to Home Depot. Don't most football fans who aren't going to the game in person stick close to home and watch the game anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyandSam Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 cool, so he said that about his vision for the Redskin stadium or some other project he's done previously? The architect firm has NEVER designed a football stadium. It's their first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hail2skins Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 This is another Bjarke Ingels quote from a November 2015 article, referring to a "yet-to-be announced futuristic stadium for the NFL": Scant on specifics pending an official NFL announcement, Ingels said his team’s redesign of the stadium will magnify the experience. “It could represent a paradigm change in stadium design whereas at some point it was only about being better, or just bigger. Now there is a whole set of aspects,” Ingels said. “There’s interest, since the televised experience is getting so good. TVs are getting so good and big, and there are all these things you can do with them. The thing we’ve emphasized is the entire experience and the intimacy of the whole experience to make the live feeling and the communal feeling as massive as possible." http://wwd.com/eye/design/bjarke-ingels-nfl-2wtc-architecture-10284993/ I saw something on TV a few months ago where some group was discussing a football stadium design where the structure was adaptable enough to serve a multipurpose function not only for sporting events and concerts, but for other community events. Can't remember if it was Ingels or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo 3squire Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 As much as some miss the stadium in DC, it's more than likely not gonna happen. The National Harbor is the likely spot for the new stadium. One it'll be right off of the highway connecting VA/DC/MD at once. The new MGM Casino and Gaylord Hotel, and they plan on building more around there as well. The possibilities of extending a metroline near the area for transit. Preferably directly to the stadium, and have a Metro bus line take folks from there to the National Harbor surrounding area. Only issue is the potential of trouble coming from the rougher areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJD2 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 This is another Bjarke Ingels quote from a November 2015 article, referring to a "yet-to-be announced futuristic stadium for the NFL": Scant on specifics pending an official NFL announcement, Ingels said his team’s redesign of the stadium will magnify the experience. “It could represent a paradigm change in stadium design whereas at some point it was only about being better, or just bigger. Now there is a whole set of aspects,” Ingels said. “There’s interest, since the televised experience is getting so good. TVs are getting so good and big, and there are all these things you can do with them. The thing we’ve emphasized is the entire experience and the intimacy of the whole experience to make the live feeling and the communal feeling as massive as possible." http://wwd.com/eye/design/bjarke-ingels-nfl-2wtc-architecture-10284993/ I saw something on TV a few months ago where some group was discussing a football stadium design where the structure was adaptable enough to serve a multipurpose function not only for sporting events and concerts, but for other community events. Can't remember if it was Ingels or not. What caught my eye here is the phrase "redesign of the stadium". The writer used this phrase, and I don't see it in the actual quote from Ingels himself. I'm wondering if the use of the phrase is meant to imply Ingels' redesign of the "stadium concept" for example, or if he is talking about the redesign of an actual existing NFL stadium. I haven't even considered the possibility of the stadium remaining where it is, but being redesigned. Does anyone think that would even be an option ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo 3squire Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 What caught my eye here is the phrase "redesign of the stadium". The writer used this phrase, and I don't see it in the actual quote from Ingels himself. I'm wondering if the use of the phrase is meant to imply Ingels' redesign of the "stadium concept" for example, or if he is talking about the redesign of an actual existing NFL stadium. I haven't even considered the possibility of the stadium remaining where it is, but being redesigned. Does anyone think that would even be an option ? It could happen, but I doubt it. Snyder is trying to move to a more profitable landmark knowing him. There have been a plethora of complaints about the commute to and from FedEx field. DC would he his choice, but the whole name thing throws that out of the window until (unlikely) DC execs change their minds. It's either MD or VA. Probably the former since they're working hard on remaining in the MD lines. VA is also a choice, close to the practice facility. But again Snyder is looking for a great market in the surrounding areas for special events, concerts and to be used year round, which halts VA temporarily. He doesn't just want to build it on farmland with nothing around it. He wants a SB, possible Wrestlemania, Final 4, Olympics, etc. Which means there needs to be hotels, restaurants, and other activities. That's why it's either MD or DC for him, and if it's MD he's going further south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 As much as some miss the stadium in DC, it's more than likely not gonna happen. The National Harbor is the likely spot for the new stadium. One it'll be right off of the highway connecting VA/DC/MD at once. The new MGM Casino and Gaylord Hotel, and they plan on building more around there as well. The possibilities of extending a metroline near the area for transit. Preferably directly to the stadium, and have a Metro bus line take folks from there to the National Harbor surrounding area. Only issue is the potential of trouble coming from the rougher areas. You're probably right ... and it keeps it in PG County, which would probably allow for them to get out of the FedEx lease early. National Harbor is an okay spot but it's a bit removed. It's logical and certainly not as removed as say, Loudoun. I just wish there was a sexier spot in DC proper. And maybe there is. And when rubber meets the road, i'm sure the DC Council will back off their comments on the team name. But certainly the more they're vocal about it changing, the less likely they are to get the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 You're probably right ... and it keeps it in PG County, which would probably allow for them to get out of the FedEx lease early. National Harbor is an okay spot but it's a bit removed. It's logical and certainly not as removed as say, Loudoun. I just wish there was a sexier spot in DC proper. And maybe there is. And when rubber meets the road, i'm sure the DC Council will back off their comments on the team name. But certainly the more they're vocal about it changing, the less likely they are to get the stadium. I don't think it really matters how far removed it is from DC to be honest. It would be pretty cool to have a stadium in the city, but DC isn't like most of these major cities anyway. My dream scenario was for all the stadiums/arenas to be close to one another. I love the idea of a city sports area but the other teams aren't aligned anyway. The next coolest idea is to have a whole bunch of cool things to do where you build a stadium. That's why, even though I don't love Maryland, National Harbor seems to make a lot of sense. On the VA side, the only reason I could see to do it would be to continue the recent partnership with the state. From training camp to headquarters, the Redskins are very VA-centric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo 3squire Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I don't think it really matters how far removed it is from DC to be honest. It would be pretty cool to have a stadium in the city, but DC isn't like most of these major cities anyway. My dream scenario was for all the stadiums/arenas to be close to one another. I love the idea of a city sports area but the other teams aren't aligned anyway. The next coolest idea is to have a whole bunch of cool things to do where you build a stadium. That's why, even though I don't love Maryland, National Harbor seems to make a lot of sense. On the VA side, the only reason I could see to do it would be to continue the recent partnership with the state. From training camp to headquarters, the Redskins are very VA-centric. Yea I agree. The Harbor makes sense too because it's not too far from VA as well so it's a somewhat shorter trip for VA residents, DC is right there, and it'll be in MD off of the beltway. Plus it's a prime real estate area w/ Alexandria and the transforming SE DC and Southern MD. VA does make sense in that aspect to keep everything close. Only reason why Big Money $nyder will lean on the Harbor area are the activities surrounding that area, and the amount of traffic coming in. He's stressed he wants to do more with the facility, especially with the evolving of stadiums today. Will it look alot like RFK? Probably. But it'll have a new spin on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 This stadium is going to be inside the beltway. Book it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexa Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Seems like Snyder and the DC govt need to come to grips that they need each other. Putting the stadium anywhere but DC makes no sense at all. Hopefully they make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Seems like Snyder and the DC govt need to come to grips that they need each other. Putting the stadium anywhere but DC makes no sense at all. Hopefully they make it happen. The thing is, that isn't true. The D.C. council and the Redskins DON'T need each other. Life has gone on for both without each other. However, they probably would do better working with each other. Won't happen right now, though. The D.C. council feels emboldened by the PC whiner currently occupying the White House, who is making it difficult for the Redskins to get federal land in D.C. proper unless they change the name. Fortunately, a president's term is limited. He will be out of office in less than a year. Hopefully, we will get a new president that won't hold the team and their first amendment rights hostage for the sake of misplaced idealism. Till then, we just have to be patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section106 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 The thing is, that isn't true. The D.C. council and the Redskins DON'T need each other. Life has gone on for both without each other. However, they probably would do better working with each other. Won't happen right now, though. The D.C. council feels emboldened by the PC whiner currently occupying the White House, who is making it difficult for the Redskins to get federal land in D.C. proper unless they change the name. Fortunately, a president's term is limited. He will be out of office in less than a year. Hopefully, we will get a new president that won't hold the team and their first amendment rights hostage for the sake of misplaced idealism. Till then, we just have to be patient. I don't think that federal land should be used for a private stadium. If the feds were to sell it to Snyder then fine but the notion that the federal gov't should lease land at pennies on the dollar for an NFL stadium is a waste of federal resources and is a misappropriation of tax revenue in my opinion. Therefore I can't support another RFK type deal where Snyder would make millions off of the DC taxpayer. Let him buy the land, be it DC or VA or Md, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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