Redskins vs Saints Prediction Thread: Who Will Show Up In The 'Big Easy'?

[Voice_of_Reason]

34 minutes ago, Califan007 said:

 

What would it take to prove it's broken though?

 

2 wins in a row? He's done that each of his seasons here as coach.

 

3 wins in a row? He did that in 2015 and 2016.

 

4 in a row? He did that in 2015 and 2016.

 

Realistically it would take 2 consecutive years of 10 wins or more, or two seasons where all the wins come bunched up together but the Skins still hover around 8-8. But I know that last scenario isn't what you're looking for lol...

Well, this season I’ll take 2 in a row as a start.  

 

i think ot it would be multiple 3 game or better winning streaks in the same season.  You could still go 9-7 and have 3 3 game winning streaks.  

 

I wemt through the details in another thread, I believe he’s only had 2 seasons with multiple winning streaks, and one of those is always 2 games.

 

Also, it’s kinda like the Supreme Cpurt’s definition of porn: I’ll know it when I see it.

[ExoDus84]

Brees lights us up for 450, and Kamara goes wild, but through a mishap in the time space continuum  we actually battle back and find a way to not lose. 

 

Final score: 2 - 2 tie. 

 

HTTR. 

[Playaction2Sanders]

I hoping an angry team that felt they should have won there last season..And I wanna wrap CT in bubble wrap for this game..

[COWBOY-KILLA-]

Sticking with the Skins in a 31-27 thriller that we squeak outta bourbon street!! 

Head uptown and smash a kabob plate from Lebanon Cafe on Carrollton, on the way home.

[skinsfan35yrs.]

On 10/1/2018 at 6:56 AM, skins island connection said:

When: Monday night Rocktober 8th

Where: Mercedes-Benz superdome New Orleans, La.

 

Monday night [ next Monday ] the Redskins take their show on the road to the 'Big Easy' to battle the 1st place 3-1 New Orleans Saints.

Crawfish, alligators and boudin,  OH MY!!

 

The Saints are 3-1 and in 1st place after beating the hapless Giants in N.Y. [ thanks ] 33-18.

Drew Brees is a future HOF QB, no doubt in anyone's mind, and a pretty good guy, and BTW has a good offense around him.

against the Giants, the Saints struggled some in the first half, but broke the game wide open and never looked back, after their RB Kamara broke off a huge TD run. Brees didn't throw a TD pass [ first time of the season ] but he really didn't need to, their running game was churning out big yardage. Kamara will be a problem the defense will have to figure out, he is agile and quick.

The Saints defense, after giving up an early TD drive, tightened down on Eli and the Giants, holding them to a FG and a late TD score [ Fred Sanford time ]. The Saints defense was ranked 30th before the game, but its bound to jump up after this game. And of course HC Sean Payton had a few tricks up his sleeve to maintain the Saints' edge by calling for 4th down trick pass to continue a drive, so this will be something Manusky and Gruden will have to keep in the back of their minds.

 

The Redskins are coming off an early season bye week after they came off an impressive win against the Green Bay Packers in a game that was not really close. Both sides of the ball played pretty good, and another solid performance by AP gave the Redskins the sparks when needed. Alex Smith played well, keeping the offense marching down the field, scoring TDs to put the game out of reach.

A bye week this early in the season can be a good thing or a bad thing, depending on how the team is playing; if a team is firing on all cylinders, a bye week can break the momentum, but at 2-1 it doesn't appear to be a bad thing.

 

Ok, overall

Alex Smith is 2-3 against the Saints, but 1 of those wins was a playoff game.

Last 2 times he's faced the Saints he's won.

The Redskins are;

17-9 overall, and 5-4 this century.

The last 2 losses were in OT.

2-1 in wins by more than 10 pts.

3-1 in New Orleans.

The Redskins play pretty well in New Orleans, maybe its the food down in the bi-yuuuuuuu, and recent memory against the Saints were entertaining games with a lot of offense.

 

Monday night, expect this game to be an offensive circus. Brees and Kamara vs Smith and Peterson, with our own little secret weapon Chris Thompson, who I look at to have a big night on the turf. Defenses may be optional in this game, but don't be surprised to see the Saints coming out firing on all cylinders, so if the Redskins fall behind early, look for Gruden to open up the playbook, but the Saints haven't played a hard-nosed defense like the Redskins, so it could be a complete opposite, low-scoring fiasco.

Critical point is how Gruden will adjust [ or not ] in the 2nd half. This is where the team may win or lose the game, as the Saints are full of surprises and play as if every game is a desperation game.

 

When the dust settles and the last piece of boudin is eaten,

I think the Redskins may not be able to keep up with the scoring and play a little sluggish coming off a bye.

Final

Redskins 27

Saints 36

 

First correct score prediction wins a new Redskins indoor/outdoor flag

 

 Good luck and   G O   S K I N S !!!

 

 

 

I think you hit it right with the  How Gruden will adjust or not, I go with the or not.  We seem to have terrible second half's unless its the gimmee yards and points from other teams going prevent defense. Yes there has been some games that dont fit this norm but.. He does not seem to adjust well.

42- 28 Saints

[TheShredder]

Beating the New Orleans Saints historically shows that if a team can keep them under 3 TD's then the Saints lose.  Scoring Key Saints >23 they win.  (Have to hold them to 2 TD's and 3 FG's.) 

 

Defense can win the game.  Offense won't likely win it for you.  

 

Formula is pretty cut and dry.  Skins do exactly what they have done in their first 2 wins and keep the Saints out of the End Zone for not more than 2 TD's.  As soon as the Saints get 3 TD's everything flips and historically you're not going to win.  There's a distinction to be made where the Saints get teams to fall into their trap and when they lose, it's generally because opposing teams control the time of possession.  You cannot rip off big TD's and fall into the shootout trap.  You need long, grinding drives that result in TD's.  Need to win the TOP.  

 

Can't make any sort of prediction in this game.  Line is Saints -7.  I'd take the Saints if it were -6.5  

 

Can the Skins win?  Absolutely.  

AP has some good intel on the current roster and their tendencies.  He's definitely sharing that in the meetings.  

He will be able to guide coaches questions for player tendencies and he's a smart man that will have some valuable info.  

Skins must be able to run the ball and control the clock.  Keeping the Saints offense off the field as much as possible. A rested

defense will be important in the 4th Q.  

Special Teams have to be awake and alert.  

 

 

 

[dswerdlw]

Best MNF game ever. 2-0 Skins. Safety in OT

[Dirt]

Dealing with Kamara, not to mention the returning Ingram, could make the defensive gameplan difficult considering Brees can still score all day with his arm.  He's not going 2 weeks without a touchdown.  Huge task for the defense this week.

 

I think they will handle it reasonably, but handling it enough while also scoring enough with very little WR production lately, and hoping AP keeps looking like AP is a lot to ask.  

 

IF the running game works well, chris Thompson and reed do their thing, control the clock, we go another week saying we dont need WRs, we could score with them, but it will take a turnover or two, preferably a late one, to get a close win.  Again, a lot to ask.  

 

I think it could be a great game that shows the Redskins can play with anyone, and hopefully the bye gave enough time to counter everything NO can do, because they can do it all.  I'll be far more impressed than the GB win if they can do it, but I'm leaning toward a close loss.  Wouldn't be shocked by a win, and it would be a huge one if we do.

 

27-20 saints

[ultravin]

skins will lead 35-10 by the half only to lose it all in the end like last year.  42-38 Saints.

[skins island connection]

8 hours ago, ultravin said:

skins will lead 35-10 by the half only to lose it all in the end like last year.  42-38 Saints.

 

Ahhh...channeling the infamous Houston Oilers vs Buffalo Bills playoff game, eh?

That was one wild ass game, but if people start climbing the Superdome to get back in and start dropping onto the field I think they'll call the game.

[goskins10]

 

An article about Ingram coming back. Not sure what impact he will have. Will likely be pretty rusty. Payton does not typically use power backs very well. I wonder how much AP wants to win this game? Might see a 26 Y/O AP...  ?  

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000969686/article/saints-to-determine-the-balance-with-ingram-kamara

 

[Renegade7]

That balance was just fine last year, Saints have two starting running backs while many don't have one.  

 

Like how much has changed since the colts loss.

[CousinsCowgirl84]

24-31 saints.

[Cooleyfan1993]

13 hours ago, ultravin said:

skins will lead 35-10 by the half only to lose it all in the end like last year.  42-38 Saints.

Not even the redskins can blow a 25 point lead. How much were we up by last season in the game against the saints, 15? If it’s 35-10 us at halftime, I’m 99.9% sure we’ll be good 

[Skinsinparadise]

2 hours ago, goskins10 said:

 

An article about Ingram coming back. Not sure what impact he will have. Will likely be pretty rusty. Payton does not typically use power backs very well. I wonder how much AP wants to win this game? Might see a 26 Y/O AP...  ?  

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000969686/article/saints-to-determine-the-balance-with-ingram-kamara

 

 

I started rewatching last years game -- boy did the Redskins struggle big time against both Ingram and Kamara -- especially Ingram.  From what I saw early in the game it was up to the gut and to the right.  I haven't charted any of this years games yet but to my naked eye it looks like the opposing offense has had good success working their right sight (the defense's left side -- Kerrigan's side) so far this season.  I recall PFF said last year they were most vulnerable to the outside zone runs.   Seems that way this season, too - though they have improved for sure. 

[goskins10]

37 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

I started rewatching last years game -- boy did the Redskins struggle big time against both Ingram and Kamara -- especially Ingram.  From what I saw early in the game it was up to the gut and to the right.  I haven't charted any of this years games yet but to my naked eye it looks like the opposing offense has had good success working their right sight (the defense's left side -- Kerrigan's side) so far this season.  I recall PFF said last year they were most vulnerable to the outside zone runs.   Seems that way this season, too - though they have improved for sure. 

 

I believe they were successful running because we were not letting Drew beat us. That 's how they got the big lead. Then our D had the major collapse. I believe the idea was make them earn everything. Nothing over the top - just like against Aaron Rogers. The issue is if you do not get a lead they are both too smart. They will figure out a way to score. And NO offense is definitely better than GB. It will be a test for sure. I do not personally hold out much hope for a win. I would love to be wrong. Getting to 3-1 would be a huge step for this team - especially since they will have beaten a very good NO team. 

 

 

 

[Cooleyfan1993]

6 minutes ago, goskins10 said:

 

I believe they were successful running because we were not letting Drew beat us. That 's how they got the big lead.

By they, you do mean the redskins right? Surely you don’t think the saints got off to a big lead last year in that game. 

[goskins10]

3 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said:

By they, you do mean the redskins right? Surely you don’t think the saints got off to a big lead last year in that game. 

 

Of course the Redskins. I thought it was painfully obvious. I am at work typing quickly. I really did not think I needed to spell it out to anyone here. Again, it seemed obvious to me. 

[Cooleyfan1993]

1 minute ago, goskins10 said:

 

Of course the Redskins. I thought it was painfully obvious. I am at work typing quickly. I really did not think I needed to spell it out to anyone here. Again, it seemed obvious to me. 

I figured that’s what you meant. By the way the first couple of sentences were worded, it sounded to me like you were still talking about the saints (since uou started off saying you believe they—the saints—were successful running because our defense wasn’t letting drew Bree’s beat us). It was just a little confusing  

[clskinsfan]

Barn burner coming this week boys. I like a high scoring nail biter. Say:

 

Skins 41

Saints 38

[JSSkinz]

We all know how this game goes, a big win against the Pack means a huge let down against the next team we play.

 

There's no way in hell I'm thinking the Skins win this game, they have to break this win, loss, win, loss type streak they do each year before I can believe.

 

Beat the Saints and I will start to think things are different but for me personally, they need to go 3 games over 500 before I truly believe the team is any hint of a threat.

 

You are what you are until you prove otherwise.

 

Saints - 34

Skins - 17

[Cherokee]

Looking forward to the game for one reason only...watch that Dline.  As much as I admire Drew Brees, I would like to see them put him down but "gently" (damned roughing the passer rule).  Montae Nicholson will be crucial to this game, taking into account Drew Brees propensity to throwing downfield.  Pressure up front is what we need.  Keep it close and we should be able to pull this one out.

[TheShredder]

6 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

I started rewatching last years game -- boy did the Redskins struggle big time against both Ingram and Kamara -- especially Ingram.  From what I saw early in the game it was up to the gut and to the right.  I haven't charted any of this years games yet but to my naked eye it looks like the opposing offense has had good success working their right sight (the defense's left side -- Kerrigan's side) so far this season.  I recall PFF said last year they were most vulnerable to the outside zone runs.   Seems that way this season, too - though they have improved for sure. 

The game you should rewatch is the Divisional Round Vikings vs Saints.  Basically a Blue-Print on how to beat the Saints.  Granted you have to have the defensive personnel (which the Redskins do).  Defense must stop the run.  Pressure Brees so he has to take the check down.  It's probably not good for the defense when Brees takes the snap and launches a pass to his #1 option.  Past that, Brees will take the open target.  Vikings played them exactly how you need to in order to control the clock and manage Brees factor.

 

 

 

 

 

[TheShredder]

1 hour ago, Cherokee said:

Looking forward to the game for one reason only...watch that Dline.  As much as I admire Drew Brees, I would like to see them put him down but "gently" (damned roughing the passer rule).  Montae Nicholson will be crucial to this game, taking into account Drew Brees propensity to throwing downfield.  Pressure up front is what we need.  Keep it close and we should be able to pull this one out.

Drew Brees propensity to throwing downfield?  Not sure what that means.  If you're implying that Brees thows a multitude of bombs over the top of receivers, you haven't paid attention to WDBD  (What Drew Brees Does).   Brees spreads the ball around to the open receiver.  Cousins was always referencing how he tries to emulate Drew Brees.  He was quoted many times, answering questions about what he is thinking with the answer of WWDBD  (What Would Drew Brees Do?).  If you want to know what Drew Brees does, it's what Cousins has tried to do.  Saints have been running the ball more and have two starting caliber RB's.  They have the best FB in the league and good TE targets.  They're not torching people over the top, but when one of his favorite targets, Michael Thomas, even has a step on someone, he takes that shot.  Key to the game is stopping the run. The Safeties need to guard the End Zone like this snake guards the Beer at 7-11.

 

[carex]

from what I saw of the Giants game it looks like the Saints have outside speed which may be a problem.  But apparently we're pretty good at stopping big plays so that helps

 

We played the close last year, that was without Reed, Perine as our top back and Thompson getting hurt