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2024 NFL Draft Position/Tracker - Final Pick #2

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47 minutes ago, Rufus T Firefly said:

It doesn't. It affects ours. 

 

Yup.  We want SF to lose to tonight because:

1). Helps lower our SOS.

2). Gives them extra incentive to win next week to keep the top spot in the NFC.

3). Gives Dallas extra incentive to win week 18.

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Skinsinparadise

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It’s all about the draft: Every Commanders loss from here is a win

Washington holds the No. 3 pick after its Christmas Eve loss

There’s no guarantee that a higher pick will yield a better player. Chase Young, the No. 2 choice just four drafts ago, didn’t even finish his rookie contract in Washington. But having a higher pick means having more elite prospects to choose from and a better chance to trade down and accumulate extra draft capital — and the value of a top pick was emphasized Sunday when the Commanders benched Sam Howell again, suggesting he might not be the franchise quarterback the team hoped he would be.

 

Maybe most importantly, a new front office is expected to be making the picks. If ownership hits on its hires and those hires hit on their picks, the new regime could accelerate the reboot.

Washington has almost cemented a top-four pick. It is in line to be a heavy underdog in its last two games, both at home, against NFC heavyweights San Francisco (11-3 entering Monday) and Dallas (10-5). The best chance for a win figures to be against the Cowboys, who struggle on the road and could have little or nothing to play for in the finale — as in Week 18 last season, when Washington won, 26-6.

 

But last year, Washington went into its last game effectively locked into a draft pick between No. 14 and No. 16. This year, the stakes are higher.

 

Washington moved into the No. 3 spot by a hair when New England defeated Denver. Chicago (via 2-13 Carolina) and Arizona (3-12) are the only teams ahead of the Commanders. The first tiebreaker is weaker strength of schedule, as calculated by the winning percentage of the team’s opponents. Through Sunday, Washington (.520) is well ahead of Arizona (.564) and just a smidgen in front of New England (.522). (The second tiebreaker is head-to-head record, and the Commanders beat both of those teams.)

 

But if Washington gets a win, it could fall as far as seventh. The three teams right behind the Commanders — Tennessee (.524), the Los Angeles Chargers (.524) and the New York Giants (.510) — have strength of schedules worse or about the same.

 

The difference between the third and the seventh pick might not seem steep. After all, mountains of research show the values of picks decline much slower than the famous, misunderstood and misattributed “Jimmy Johnson draft-pick value chart.” But the same people who have improved that chart — including salary cap experts Jason Fitzgerald and Brad Spielberger — also have reaffirmed the obvious conclusion that the chance of finding a superstar increases with a higher pick in the draft.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/12/25/commanders-draft-position-jets/

 

If the Commanders end up with a top-three pick, their new general manager could start a major overhaul. That executive could target one of the quarterbacks in a well-regarded class headlined by Southern California’s Caleb Williams and North Carolina’s Drake Maye. The Commanders also could like the quarterback prospects whom analysts currently consider on the second tier, such as Washington’s Michael Penix Jr., Oregon’s Bo Nix and LSU’s Jayden Daniels, who won the Heisman Trophy but is just three months younger than Howell.

 

The Commanders could get an elite offensive tackle, such as Penn State’s Olumuyiwa Fashanu or Notre Dame’s Joe Alt, or an elite skill player, such as Ohio State wide receiver Marvin Harrison Jr. or Georgia tight end Brock Bowers.

 

But it’s late December — way too early for too many specifics. For now, there are still games to be played, and the players, coaches and executives wearing Commanders gear remain stuck in an awkward purgatory.

Rivera, the public face of this era, said he didn’t think about the fans who were rooting for the Commanders to lose Sunday.

“I’m going to show up, and we’re going to work, and we’re going to play to win,” he said. “Everything we do is about winning. It’s got nothing to do about losing, okay? If that’s what [some fans are] thinking, then it’s unfortunate.”

But it’s hard to blame those fans. The hope of summer was eroded by a long, painful fall into limbo. Different owner, same results: another overwhelmed coach and another underwhelming quarterback. If things are going to change, if new ownership really can give the fans a team to be proud of, then Sunday was another small step toward putting the franchise in the best position possible. That loss was a win.

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19 minutes ago, Darrell Green Fan said:

I prefer Maye to Daniels, not a big fan of run first QBs.  So...who are we rooting for in these last games?  Niners to lose is all I can come up with.

Daniels is a throw 1st qb. He keeps his eyes down field and goes through his reads. Especially this last year at lsu. They said he has worked very hard on that. But I like them both. Hope we land one of the top 3 without having to trade up

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1 minute ago, kingdaddy said:

Agreed.....his players love him and he's changed that team around with a nobody at QB. Defense wins championships. 

Don’t know about that last sentence but, assuming they have the cap room, it would be a good landing spot for Cousins if he doesn’t go back to Minny. They could use an upgrade at OC vs the interim guy and Turner

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16 minutes ago, kingdaddy said:

Agreed.....his players love him and he's changed that team around with a nobody at QB. Defense wins championships. 

Also, the Raider's interim GM was one whose name was being floated as a possible GM hire in 2024.  He probably stays too.  

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1 minute ago, Anselmheifer said:


I would not mind in the least if we move up from 3 or 4 to 1 or 2, if the FO particularly loves one of the QB’s.

Me neither, but it would be nice to not need to. Some on here would say heresy if that were to happen, but they are the same ones who think it's a good idea to stick with Howell. I say if caleb williams is as good as they say, then go get him. If not then make sure to grab maye or daniels.

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30 minutes ago, petey hodge said:

This could be the most Rowboat Ron move, EVER!!!

 

 

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strategy folks... strategy.  If you dont get it, you dont understand it. 


The most Ron move ever would be taking the Yale LT at #3 because it turns out his dad served in a military somewhere and he is a nice guy and that Wharton will coach him up and he will be our Day 1 starting LT next year

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18 minutes ago, method man said:


The most Ron move ever would be taking the Yale LT at #3 because it turns out his dad served in a military somewhere and he is a nice guy and that Wharton will coach him up and he will be our Day 1 starting LT next year

 

I hear the Yale LT can play guard and center as well. Flex position can't be understated. Best to trade up to number one to ensure we won't miss out. 🤪

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1 hour ago, Anselmheifer said:


I would not mind in the least if we move up from 3 or 4 to 1 or 2, if the FO particularly loves one of the QB’s.

I would unless we recoup draft capital by other means. A move up from 3/4 to 1/2 is costly.

 

Using the draft value chart it would take #4, #36, #68 and were still short on trade value.  We have a ton of holes and trade ups have not worked well in recent history. It does too much damage to the ability to build a team, especially if the guy you take isn’t a world beater.

 

We’ll see. I’ll let it play out before landing too hard on an opinion.

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31 minutes ago, method man said:


The most Ron move ever would be taking the Yale LT at #3 because it turns out his dad served in a military somewhere and he is a nice guy and that Wharton will coach him up and he will be our Day 1 starting LT next year

I was thinking long snapper above all else, but shows what I know 🤣🤣

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