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Will Trump be convicted in any of his cases?  

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  1. 1. Will Trump be convicted in any of his cases?

    • Yes. He's going 4 for 4. (including Georgia)
      6
    • He's going to lose 3
      5
    • Two for sure
      8
    • He's only going to get convicted in one
      1
    • No. He's going to skate
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Dan T.

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2 hours ago, EmirOfShmo said:

 

 

 

If we're going to have the rule - unique to exactly one person in the entire world - that a sitting President can't be prosecuted for a crime, then there should be an accompanying rule - unique to exactly one person in the entire world - that the statute of limitations clock is put on hold for the length of time an accused President is in office.

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6 minutes ago, Dan T. said:

 

 

If we're going to have the rule - unique to exactly one person in the entire world - that a sitting President can't be prosecuted for a crime, then there should be an accompanying rule - unique to exactly one person in the entire world - that the statute of limitations clock is put on hold for the length of time an accused President is in office.

He's not the sitting President. 

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Bang

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**** all that.

The president isn't royalty. 
He is SUPPOSEDLY no different than any of us. I don't care if he's in office or not, he is not above the laws we all must live by.

 

Absolutely appalling to even consider it. We are a republic, a nation governed by LAWS, not PEOPLE.

 

~Bang

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Dan T.

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1 hour ago, skinsmarydu said:

He's not the sitting President. 

 

 

The point with my proposal is that the statute of limitations clock is paused during the time he WAS President.  

 

 

1 hour ago, Bang said:

**** all that.

The president isn't royalty. 
He is SUPPOSEDLY no different than any of us. I don't care if he's in office or not, he is not above the laws we all must live by.

 

Absolutely appalling to even consider it. We are a republic, a nation governed by LAWS, not PEOPLE.

 

~Bang

 

 

Well, I agree with that.  But if the rule about not prosecuting a sitting President is kept, I like the idea of pausing the statute of limitations clock to account for the time he or she is "Immune.".

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PleaseBlitz

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Just now, Dan T. said:

 

 

The point with my proposal is that the statute of limitations clock is paused during the time he WAS President.  

 

 

 

There is a legal concept that permits this, called "tolling", but yea, never been applied to a situation where the alleged offender couldn't be charged due to their status as POTUS (obv. because no other former POTUS has been criminally charged before). 

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Dan T.

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13 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said:

 

There is a legal concept that permits this, called "tolling", but yea, never been applied to a situation where the alleged offender couldn't be charged due to their status as POTUS (obv. because no other former POTUS has been criminally charged before). 

 

Does tolling ever apply to criminal cases?

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Larry

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1 hour ago, TheGoodBits said:

The idea that a sitting president cannot be charged with a crime is an absolutely ridiculous legal theory. The idea that a sitting president could hypothetically pardon himself for any and all crimes is even more ridiculous. 

 

I dunno.  

 

At least I remember back in Social Studies classes, it was explained to me that what the Constitution said was that the President cannot be prosecuted, that the only recourse against him was impeachment, and the only penalty removal from office.  And then he could be tried in the normal court system.  (That's why the Constitution states that yes, the President can be tried twice for the same crime, it's just that one of the trials is his impeachment.)  

 

Granted, I'm looking now, and I'm not seeing anything that explicitly says that.  Just saying that the notion that he has to be impeached first, isn't some new concept that got invented just for Trump.  

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LadySkinsFan

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In this conversation with Dee Snider of Twisted Sister, he perfectly describes the essence of TFG, and what he thinks about certain things. From the article:

 

Are you following what's going on with Trump’s arraignment this week?

 

I've watched. I mean, this is like the Al Capone situation. … A lot of the great criminals of our time have fallen, slipped up, with something that you would think is insignificant, like a payoff to a porn star or something like that. But whatever it takes to do him in, you know. We can really get into this conversation, but I don't believe he stands for any of the things that he says he stands for. Donald Trump sells a product, however you can sell that product. He wants an audience. He wants someone to buy the product. If he finds an audience for a product, he's gonna cater to that audience. And with his product, “Donald Trump or President,” there's people that he wouldn't even allow in the same room with him — the vast amount of these people — but they are buying what he's selling. His ultimate goal is to have a successful product. He’s not church guy carrying a Bible around! He's a Democrat, right? Up to before he ran, he was for women's rights. He is not an anti-abortion guy. His track record has proven that. But the only thing he stands for is Donald Trump. That's the only thing.

 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/dee-snider-talks-trump-taking-back-were-not-gonna-take-it-and-drag-bans-my-band-would-not-be-allowed-to-perform-in-texas-224631846.html

 

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Gurgeh

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Well it seems he has another option now

 

https://tass.com/society/1601237?utm_source=google.com&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=google.com&utm_referrer=google.com

 

" Russian businessman and member of the Russian Liberal Democratic Party Viktor Bout has sent a wire to former US President Donald Trump, inviting him to Russia to lead "a rebellion against the globalists."

 

"Today, I sent a telegram to former US President Donald Trump. First of all, I believe that his life is in danger. The trial that has begun in New York will not end with Donald Trump just getting convicted and losing his chance at the presidency," the Russian said after sending the wire.

 

According to Bout, he also invites Trump to Russia and offers him protection and political asylum so that he is able to lead "a rebellion against the globalists and save the American people."

 

(and yes, this "Russian businessman" is the arms dealer that was swapped for Brittney Griner)

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LadySkinsFan

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50 minutes ago, Bang said:

So suddenly the GOP will decide that  this "really bad guy" we swapped for the grass smoking lesbian devil girl won't be such a bad guy after all.

 

~Bang

 

Definitely, this guy is Russian so naturally the Republican Fascist Party will agree with him. 

 

(As an aside, I wish I could put a sign on my car saying "Vote Against the Republican Fascist Party" but I'm afraid my car and most likely me will be fire bombed or at the least shot at here in Texas.)

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