Trump on Trial (Trump indicted for a fourth time in Georgia. Expands his record of most indictments by a former president)

[Cooked Crack]

 

 

[China]

Working on that espionage charge I see.  

[EmirOfShmo]

 

[China]

FYI, there's a thread for the E. Jean Carroll trial.

[China]

Donald Trump seeks to move NY criminal case to federal court

 

Donald Trump ’s lawyers have asked a federal court to take control of his New York City criminal case. They argued Thursday that the former president can’t be tried in the state court where his historic indictment was brought because the alleged conduct occurred while he was in office.

 

In court papers, Trump’s lawyers said the criminal case “involves important federal questions,” including alleged violations of federal election law. Federal officers, including former presidents, have the right to be tried in federal court for charges arising from “conduct performed while in office,” the lawyers argued.

 

Echoing Trump’s claims that his indictment is “politically motivated,” lawyer Susan Necheles urged the federal court to exert its “protective jurisdiction” and seize the case from the state courts where Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg routinely practices.

 

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He just wants to be able to be pardoned, which he can't be for the state crime.

[LadySkinsFan]

2 hours ago, China said:

Donald Trump seeks to move NY criminal case to federal court

 

Donald Trump ’s lawyers have asked a federal court to take control of his New York City criminal case. They argued Thursday that the former president can’t be tried in the state court where his historic indictment was brought because the alleged conduct occurred while he was in office.

 

In court papers, Trump’s lawyers said the criminal case “involves important federal questions,” including alleged violations of federal election law. Federal officers, including former presidents, have the right to be tried in federal court for charges arising from “conduct performed while in office,” the lawyers argued.

 

Echoing Trump’s claims that his indictment is “politically motivated,” lawyer Susan Necheles urged the federal court to exert its “protective jurisdiction” and seize the case from the state courts where Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg routinely practices.

 

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He just wants to be able to be pardoned, which he can't be for the state crime.

 

Also hopes to judge shop for one favorable to him. 

[Ball Security]

4 hours ago, China said:

Donald Trump seeks to move NY criminal case to federal court

 

Donald Trump ’s lawyers have asked a federal court to take control of his New York City criminal case. They argued Thursday that the former president can’t be tried in the state court where his historic indictment was brought because the alleged conduct occurred while he was in office.

 

In court papers, Trump’s lawyers said the criminal case “involves important federal questions,” including alleged violations of federal election law. Federal officers, including former presidents, have the right to be tried in federal court for charges arising from “conduct performed while in office,” the lawyers argued.

 

Echoing Trump’s claims that his indictment is “politically motivated,” lawyer Susan Necheles urged the federal court to exert its “protective jurisdiction” and seize the case from the state courts where Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg routinely practices.

 

Click on the link for the full article

 

He just wants to be able to be pardoned, which he can't be for the state crime.

There’s a lot to keep up with, but doesn’t this case deal with allegations of crimes committed before the election and definitely before the inauguration?

[China]

18 minutes ago, Ball Security said:

There’s a lot to keep up with, but doesn’t this case deal with allegations of crimes committed before the election and definitely before the inauguration?

 

Yes, but the last payment came after he was president.

[EmirOfShmo]

 

[China]

Judge limits Trump’s sharing of information from New York criminal case on social media

 

The New York judge handling Donald Trump’s criminal case approved a protective order on Monday that limits the former president’s ability to publicize information on social media related to evidence in the investigation.

 

The Manhattan district attorney’s office had submitted the protective order to restrict Trump’s ability to share information his attorneys receive in the discovery process in part because of Trump’s social media posts about Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg and witnesses in the case.

 

Manhattan prosecutors have accused Trump of falsifying business records with the intent to conceal illegal conduct connected to his 2016 presidential campaign. The criminal charges stem from Bragg’s investigation into hush money payments, made during the 2016 campaign, to an adult film star who alleged an affair with Trump, which he denies.

 

Judge Juan Merchan signed off on the protective order, which states that evidence in the case turned over may not be shared or posted to “any news or social media platforms, including, but not limited, to Truth Social, Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, Twitter, Snapchat, or YouTube, without prior approval from the Court.”

 

Merchan’s ruling followed a hearing last week in which Trump’s attorneys and prosecutors from the district attorney’s office debated the details of the protective order, including the rules governing how much of material taken from the cell phones of witnesses, such as former Trump lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen, could be viewed by Trump.

 

Trump’s attorneys had opposed the protective order, arguing that it infringed on Trump’s First Amendment rights as he makes another run for president in 2024.

 

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[China]

On 4/22/2023 at 8:05 PM, China said:

 

Bragg Agrees to Let Ex-Prosecutor Testify About Trump Case in Congress

 

A former prosecutor who once helped lead an investigation of Donald J. Trump will testify before Congress next month, ending for now a legal dispute between Republican lawmakers and Alvin L. Bragg, the Manhattan district attorney, who had sought to block the testimony.

 

The former prosecutor, Mark F. Pomerantz, is now scheduled to testify under oath to representatives of the House Judiciary Committee in a closed-door deposition on May 12. Mr. Pomerantz worked for the Manhattan district attorney’s office for about a year, but resigned more than a year before Mr. Trump was indicted, and wrote a book that described his frustration with Mr. Bragg’s approach to the investigation.

 

After a federal judge declined to halt the interview, both Mr. Bragg and Mr. Pomerantz appealed to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit. The appeals court delayed the questioning, which had originally been scheduled for Thursday. During the delay, lawyers for Mr. Bragg and Mr. Jordan negotiated and reached an agreement that was announced on Friday evening.

 

A spokeswoman for the district attorney’s office said in a statement that the resolution would allow the office’s general counsel, Leslie Dubeck, to be present for the questioning of Mr. Pomerantz. A lawyer for Mr. Pomerantz is also expected to be present, and Mr. Pomerantz may decline to answer questions that he is not authorized to discuss. Congressional Republicans may contest his right to remain silent in future proceedings.

 

In a statement, a spokesman for Mr. Jordan said the committee looked forward to Mr. Pomerantz’s appearance. A lawyer for Mr. Pomerantz declined to comment.

 

Though the agreement ends Mr. Bragg’s lawsuit, which was filed April 11, the dispute between the district attorney and Mr. Jordan seems far from over. More legal turmoil is likely to follow if congressional Republicans seek to question other prosecutors who participated in the investigation of Mr. Trump.

 

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Former Trump probe prosecutor refuses to answer House Judiciary Committee questions

 

A former prosecutor refused Friday to answer questions at a deposition by the House Judiciary Committee about a criminal investigation of Donald Trump in which he once played a leading role.

 

The Judiciary Committee, whose chairman Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio is a close Republican ally of Trump, has been investigating whether the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office probe and charging of Trump was politically motivated.

 

The former prosecutor Mark Pomerantz, in an opening statement prepared for his deposition and obtained by NBC News, called the Judiciary Committee’s demand for his testimony “an act of political theater.”

 

“Fortunately, I do not have to cooperate with the cynical histrionics that this deposition represents,” said Pomerantz.

 

He argued he had the right to not answer questions if they were not pertinent “to a legitimate legislative function.”

 

“We are gathered here because Donald Trump’s supporters would like to use these proceedings to attempt to obstruct and undermine the criminal case pending against him, and to harass, intimidate and discredit anyone who investigates or charges him,” Pomerantz said.

 

He also cited Trump’s recent criminal indictment in New York for allegedly falsifying business records related to a hush money payment as another reason he would not answer questions about the probe.

 

“The charges against Mr. Trump should be heard and decided by a judge and a jury before politicians second-guess their merits or the decision to bring them,” Pomerantz said.

 

He added the DA’s office had instructed him to maintain the office’s claims of privilege and confidentiality to protect the integrity of the criminal case against Trump.

 

Pomerantz also cited his Fifth Amendment right under the Constitution not to answer questions that could be used against him in a possible criminal case.

 

He noted the DA’s office had warned him he could face criminal charges if he disclosed grand jury material, and that a lawyer for the DA had said a book he wrote about the Trump case “exposed [him] to criminal liability.” Pomerantz added he did not believe he committed any crime.

 

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[LadySkinsFan]

In othet words, **** you Gym Jordan. Ongoing investigation and court case.

[Larry]

23 minutes ago, LadySkinsFan said:

In othet words, **** you Gym Jordan. Ongoing investigation and court case.

They don't expect to get any facts. 
 

Hell, if they actually get facts, they'll ignore them. 
 

They're creating a narrative. They want several two-second video clips that they can splice together into a lie. 

[China]

38 minutes ago, Larry said:

They don't expect to get any facts. 
 

Hell, if they actually get facts, they'll ignore them. 
 

They're creating a narrative. They want several two-second video clips that they can splice together into a lie. 

 

Which is the beauty of this, because he didn't give them anything they could misrepresent.

[LadySkinsFan]

It only goes to show that most people are more intelligent and able to out think good ol' Gym. He's pretty dumb actually.

[China]

On 5/9/2023 at 6:10 PM, China said:

Judge limits Trump’s sharing of information from New York criminal case on social media

 

The New York judge handling Donald Trump’s criminal case approved a protective order on Monday that limits the former president’s ability to publicize information on social media related to evidence in the investigation.

 

The Manhattan district attorney’s office had submitted the protective order to restrict Trump’s ability to share information his attorneys receive in the discovery process in part because of Trump’s social media posts about Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg and witnesses in the case.

 

Manhattan prosecutors have accused Trump of falsifying business records with the intent to conceal illegal conduct connected to his 2016 presidential campaign. The criminal charges stem from Bragg’s investigation into hush money payments, made during the 2016 campaign, to an adult film star who alleged an affair with Trump, which he denies.

 

Judge Juan Merchan signed off on the protective order, which states that evidence in the case turned over may not be shared or posted to “any news or social media platforms, including, but not limited, to Truth Social, Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, Twitter, Snapchat, or YouTube, without prior approval from the Court.”

 

Merchan’s ruling followed a hearing last week in which Trump’s attorneys and prosecutors from the district attorney’s office debated the details of the protective order, including the rules governing how much of material taken from the cell phones of witnesses, such as former Trump lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen, could be viewed by Trump.

 

Trump’s attorneys had opposed the protective order, arguing that it infringed on Trump’s First Amendment rights as he makes another run for president in 2024.

 

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Trump to get schooled on rules after district attorney worries he’ll use evidence to slam witnesses

 

Donald Trump was ordered Thursday to appear by video at a May 23 hearing in his Manhattan criminal case after a judge this week set rules barring him from using evidence in the case to attack witnesses.

 

Judge Juan Manuel Merchan scheduled the hybrid hearing — the former president on a TV screen, his lawyers and prosecutors in court — to go over the restrictions with Trump and to make clear that he risks being held in contempt if he violates them.

 

The case is continuing in state court even as Trump’s lawyers seek to have it moved to federal court. U.S. District Judge Alvin Hellerstein, who is considering the transfer request, issued an order this week setting paperwork deadlines and a hearing for late June.

 

Merchan, still in charge while that drama plays out, agreed to instruct Trump on the rules by video, rather than in person, after a prosecutor reminded him last week that bringing Trump to court would present mammoth security and logistical challenges.

 

Trump’s April 4 arraignment, where he pleaded not guilty to 34 felony counts of falsifying business records, attracted a crush of media and protesters, involved multiple street closures, extra security screenings and shut down non-Trump court business for an afternoon.

 

“We’ll setup the camera for Mr. Trump to appear wherever he is at that time and we’ll do it here in the courtroom virtually,” Merchan said.

 

Merchan issued what’s known as a protective order on Monday, days after a hearing where he urged Trump’s lawyers and prosecutors from the Manhattan district attorney’s office to reach a compromise regarding the Republican’s access to and use of evidence turned over by prosecutors prior to trial. That kind of evidence sharing, called discovery, is routine in criminal cases, and is intended to help ensure a fair trial.

 

Prosecutors sought the order soon after Trump’s arrest, citing what they say is his history of making “harassing, embarrassing, and threatening statements” about people he’s tangled with in legal disputes.

 

Merchan added Trump’s virtual hearing to the court calendar a day after Trump appeared on a CNN forum and offered up a barrage of falsehoods, excuses and insults on a variety of topics, including what he deemed the “fake charge” of his criminal case.

 

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[LadySkinsFan]

Instead of a virtual hearing, they should haul him into court like most criminal hearings where the defendant has to appear, like all the rest of us. Maybe he'd take this case more seriously instead of popping off like he always does. He's not a ****ing king.

[China]

3 hours ago, LadySkinsFan said:

Instead of a virtual hearing, they should haul him into court like most criminal hearings where the defendant has to appear, like all the rest of us. Maybe he'd take this case more seriously instead of popping off like he always does. He's not a ****ing king.

 

Clearly you missed the part where the Manhattan DA recommended virtual to avoid the ****show and cost associated with providing security for an in person appearance, like they had to do when he was indicted.

[LadySkinsFan]

I didn't miss that part. It's important to me that he's treated like the defendant he is. I want to see his ass sitting there every ****ing time something happens. 

[Bang]

3 hours ago, LadySkinsFan said:

I didn't miss that part. It's important to me that he's treated like the defendant he is. I want to see his ass sitting there every ****ing time something happens. 

I'm with you. Good use of tax dollars as far as I'm concerned. If any of his slackjawed mob gets out of line, crack their skulls.
Haul his ass in. 

 

~Bang

[skinsmarydu]

6 minutes ago, Bang said:

Haul his ass in. 

 

~Bang

I understand not wanting him to get the attention, but if he's hauling his fat ass on his own dime in his own plane... 

Do it.  Make him spend money he doesn't have. 

[Simmsy]

9 minutes ago, Bang said:

I'm with you. Good use of tax dollars as far as I'm concerned. If any of his slackjawed mob gets out of line, crack their skulls.
Haul his ass in. 

 

~Bang

 

You won't see too many get out of line anymore, the luster of  "coup" is gone once the consequences start to hit.

[TheGreatBuzz]

1 hour ago, Simmsy said:

 

You won't see too many get out of line anymore, the luster of  "coup" is gone once the consequences start to hit.

 

Yup.  Just look how well that worked with all the drug dealers.

[CobraCommander]

1 hour ago, skinsmarydu said:

I understand not wanting him to get the attention, but if he's hauling his fat ass on his own dime in his own plane... 

Do it.  Make him spend money he doesn't have. 

He can get the money, from his supporters. Be a shame if they're draining their savings to help a conman.

[China]

If they can find a way to make Trump pay for all the security needed, then I'm all for him having to show up in person.