Fan since a Fetus Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Hooper said: Listening to this AJ Perez guy on Sheehan's podcast. Hard to take him seriously. What are his credentials again? Does "FO Sports" cover much of anything? Getting fraud vibes. I’ve felt that way about him as well. I don’t listen to a thing he has to say. Maybe he is doing the “fake it til you make it” thing until he finally gets lucky and is taken seriously. He’s waiting for his big break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Fan since a Fetus said: I’ve felt that way about him as well. I don’t listen to a thing he has to say. Maybe he is doing the “fake it til you make it” thing until he finally gets lucky and is taken seriously. He’s waiting for his big break. Same vibes here. This is an easy situation to sling **** on the wall and see what sticks, it's not like the news can be confirmed or denied anytime soon. People are probably just telling him anything to make the annoying fly go away. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 FWIW - just catching up on a Junkies recording from this morning and Lurch worked with Josh Harris's brother (Gabe) so kind of knows the family said Josh isn't the easiest dude to get a long with. The all talked about how any owner is better than Snyder. LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bifflog Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, HigSkin said: The all talked about how any owner is better than Snyder. LOL I think at the end of the day, this is where I'm at. Our new owner, whoever it may be, could turn out to be a raging asshole nobody wants to work with, a penny pinching cheapskate who leaves us working with scraps, a skeevy creepo, or a meddling saboteur, but he's very unlikely to hit the quadruple jack-pot, and thus we have improved our stature in life. Can't happen soon enough! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 30 minutes ago, HigSkin said: FWIW - just catching up on a Junkies recording from this morning and Lurch worked with Josh Harris's brother (Gabe) so kind of knows the family said Josh isn't the easiest dude to get a long with. The all talked about how any owner is better than Snyder. LOL It's not surprising. He is a cofounder of one of the most blue chip private equity firms out there. PE guys in general tend to be raging assholes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofBruceAllen Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, method man said: It's not surprising. He is a cofounder of one of the most blue chip private equity firms out there. PE guys in general tend to be raging assholes I would expand that to say 99% of billionaires, regardless of how they made their money, are raging arseholes. You don't get to the big boy's club by treating others like humans. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Rook Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 17 hours ago, RWJ said: Thing that we ALL know is that Payne played his butt off because he was in a contract year. It also may have something to do with the way Sam Mills was mis-using him. The Rook 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 If bids are at 6.3 billion or something, that's for the whole team. Not 51%. Nobody's gonna put 6.3 Billion, and a stadium to build for just 51% of the team. Those billionaires aren't that stupid... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Wildbunny said: If bids are at 6.3 billion or something, that's for the whole team. Not 51%. Nobody's gonna put 6.3 Billion, and a stadium to build for just 51% of the team. Those billionaires aren't that stupid... One thought is that the Forbes report could potentially marry to AJ's report where the valuation is $7B but the offer is for 90% of the team with Snyder holding 10%. If I'm Snyder and the goal is to pass this on to my kids, if I can keep a minority stake and the league is fine with that, I would try to do it given that NFL teams only grow in value. Remember guys that minority investors don't hold any real power so it isn't the end of the world if Snyder held a small stake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinss Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Andre The Giant said: Yeah this makes no sense whatsoever. How can people bid on something if they have no idea what it is they're bidding on? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, method man said: One thought is that the Forbes report could potentially marry to AJ's report where the valuation is $7B but the offer is for 90% of the team with Snyder holding 10%. If I'm Snyder and the goal is to pass this on to my kids, if I can keep a minority stake and the league is fine with that, I would try to do it given that NFL teams only grow in value. Remember guys that minority investors don't hold any real power so it isn't the end of the world if Snyder held a small stake The NFL will not approve a partial sale of any kind imo, I feel pretty sure of that. They want to rid themselves of this man, not continue to get raked over the coals nationally for still doing business with him. They can’t get out from under his dark cloud as long as he owns even 1% of the franchise. They can vote no on any owner who isn’t buying the entire franchise, and I think as a whole they’d exercise that right. He’s not getting out of this with half measures. Or even 90% measures. He’s done. And on a personal note, if the NFL allows him to keep any percentage of the team at all, I’ll be done. The only reason I’m still here is because even when the know-nothing cynics here said there was zero shot Snyder would ever sell, I never lost faith that as his personal and professional L’s mounted higher and higher—there was a light at the end of the tunnel where he’d have to sell. I celebrated every tweet, every blurb, every article. I believed in the death-by-a-thousand-cuts narrative and it’s the ONLY reason I was able to stay a fan of this ****hole franchise he desecrated. And if I was proven right, and he’s gone, and we exorcise that demon—then the suffering was worth it to get back something I was afraid to lose. But…if I’m proven wrong on that and a dark, demonstrably evil exploiter of people like Snyder is allowed to keep even one foot in the door of the NFL clubhouse—I’m out. Mind you, I suffer from no fanciful delusions about the other billionaires and corporations that make up the NFL and it’s partners. We all make choices on where to draw the line with our entertainment (and there is no ethical consumption under capitalism blah blah). But this would be a line for me, if even the ghost of Snyder is allowed to remain. It’s all or nothing for my fanhood, and I bet I’m not alone. Edited January 17, 2023 by Conn 7 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Those articles talking about Snyder staying on as Owner in some capacity are clickbait. FrontOfficeSports.com does not sound like a reputable source for journalism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 minute ago, redskinss said: How can people bid on something if they have no idea what it is they're bidding on? Sounds like one of those "Price is Right" games. I'm going to submit a proposal at the very last second for $1. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 minute ago, redskinss said: Yeah this makes no sense whatsoever. How can people bid on something if they have no idea what it is they're bidding on? Maybe every individual bid could be for a set %. Like some people are offering 6Mil+ bids for a full 100% sale, while others are offering like 3.5Mil for 51% or something, and we simply don't know which one Snyder is leaning towards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdlives Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, Conn said: The NFL will not approve a partial sale of any kind imo, I feel pretty sure of that. They want to rid themselves of this man, not continue to get raked over the coals nationally for still doing business with him. They can’t get out from under his dark cloud as long as he owns even 1% of the franchise. They can vote no on any owner who isn’t buying the entire franchise, and I think as a whole they’d exercise that right. He’s not getting out of this with half measures. Or even 90% measures. He’s done. And on a personal note…… It’s all or nothing for my fanhood, and I bet I’m not alone. We’re pretty much in lockstep here. If he isn’t gone, I probably will be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Snyder will be forced to sell every last share. Plus no new owner is going to want any sort of Snyder stench over the franchise. Dude is straight up toxic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaytoAli Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 A J Perez has no real sources besides his cat. he’s a personal trainer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Conn said: The NFL will not approve a partial sale of any kind imo, I feel pretty sure of that. They want to rid themselves of this man, not continue to get raked over the coals nationally for still doing business with him. They can’t get out from under his dark cloud as long as he owns even 1% of the franchise. They can vote no on any owner who isn’t buying the entire franchise, and I think as a whole they’d exercise that right. He’s not getting out of this with half measures. Or even 90% measures. He’s done. And on a personal note, if the NFL allows him to keep any percentage of the team at all, I’ll be done. The only reason I’m still here is because even when the know-nothing cynics here said there was zero shot Snyder would ever sell, I never lost faith that as his personal and professional L’s mounted higher and higher—there was a light at the end of the tunnel where he’d have to sell. I celebrated every tweet, every blurb, every article. I believed in the death-by-a-thousand-cuts narrative and it’s the ONLY reason I was able to stay a fan of this ****hole franchise he desecrated. And if I was proven right, and he’s gone, and we exorcise that demon—then the suffering was worth it to get back something I was afraid to lose. But…if I’m proven wrong on that and a dark, demonstrably evil exploiter of people like Snyder is allowed to keep even one foot in the door of the NFL clubhouse—I’m out. Mind you, I suffer from no fanciful delusions about the other billionaires and corporations that make up the NFL and it’s partners. We all make choices on where to draw the line with our entertainment (and there is no ethical consumption under capitalism blah blah). But this would be a line for me, if even the ghost of Snyder is allowed to remain. It’s all or nothing for my fanhood, and I bet I’m not alone. I am hoping my theory is wrong by the way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANONYMOUS SOURCE. Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) Have a hard time believing anyone would buy with Dan hanging around in any fashion. That pocket sized Mortar Forker needs to sell it all and disappear…mortar as in concrete … like the shoes I’d like to fashion for that loser lol. Edited January 17, 2023 by ANONYMOUS SOURCE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAskins Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Always A Commander Never A Captain said: Those articles talking about Snyder staying on as Owner in some capacity are clickbait. FrontOfficeSports.com does not sound like a reputable source for journalism. FOS first foray into journalism. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Always A Commander Never A Captain said: Those articles talking about Snyder staying on as Owner in some capacity are clickbait. FrontOfficeSports.com does not sound like a reputable source for journalism. Perez has been the only source regarding Snyder selling so far and it looks like this team's sale is going to be his big fish. Never heard of him before this story started in November. Guys like Rapoport, Schefter, and Glazer have been largely silent when it comes to the sale of this team. Edited January 18, 2023 by NoVaSkins21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bifflog Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 38 minutes ago, ClaytoAli said: A J Perez has no real sources besides his cat. he’s a personal trainer. Seems like he was the first to report no Bezos bid, and getting backed up since? Unless I'm missing something. Devil advocating, I'd rather he be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, NoVaSkins21 said: Perez has been the only source regarding Snyder selling so far and it looks like this team's sale is going to be his big fish. Never heard of him before this story started in November. Guys like Rapoport, Schefter, and Glazer have been largely silent when it comes to the sale of this team. Listening to different people who are covering the story including Perez, its hard apparently to get info on it because Dan as usual isn't talking. Bank of American is totally close lipped. and the prospective owners are close lipped. Keim for example is typically great at getting info relating to the team but on this issue he's hardly had any info. Ditto Standig. I get the impression that Keim and Standig's sources are within the FO. And if so those same sources don't seem to be in the loop on this. 1 minute ago, Bifflog said: Seems like he was the first to report no Bezos bid, and getting backed up since? Backed up after by Finlay and Keim Edited January 18, 2023 by Skinsinparadise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bifflog Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: Backed up after by Finlay and Keim So, he broke it. Can he have both broken that story, and have no sources? Was what I was getting at. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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