FootballZombie Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 @Voice_of_Reason Question for ya. Any idea if sales like these are done in a blind auction format, or can everyone see competing bids? Or is each sale its own case and can be either format? Might provide some insight considering we got reports Harris brought in Rales around March 9th and reports that Bezos signed an NDA came around the 11th. Would Harris know for a fact if he needs to potentially up his bid, or is he playing a blind poker hand against the dealer. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) As for those wanting or wondering about Bezos, my take is: Optimism A. AJ Perez seemed to be disliked by a few people here. But if I were in the Bezos or bust camp, he'd be the reporter I'd root for as to being correct -- he's been the most insistent that Bezos is still in for quite some time. He also was the one who broke that Bezos hasn't placed a bid and was proven correct. B. The Sportico reporter thinks Bezos buys this. It's not something he's heard but he just thinks Dan can't resist the money. C. The Commanders PR team shot down one of the WPs report put our weeks back and in that report included the part about Bezos being excluded D. For those thinking it ends up Bezos, the narrative about Bezos just swoops in at the end. Obviously there is still time for that to happen. Pessimism A. The non-disclosure agreeement from what I recall was broken by the NY Post dude, Kosman if I recall? And he didn't say for sure the disclosure was with the Commanders but assumed it was. It probably was but unless I missed a story which is certainly possible I don't think we are 100% sure? But I might be misremembering this, i need to double check. B. He hasn't toured the facility. Everyone else interested toured it. I know some say here the same rules don't apply to Bezos -- but others following this process think it could mean something. Most indeed take the time to take a look at what they would be inheriting. C. None of the beat guys that are following the story when pushed to guess the utimate owner are guessing Bezos. right now, unless I missed one. That wasn't the case earlier in the process but its the case now. D. Keim among others has said Dan not wanting to sell to Bezos is.a real thing and Keim believes he'd have to outbid the next highest bid by a good margin, not just a little to win this. E. White there are some people who believe Bezos would pay the Dan tax so to speal to buy the team, there is an equal amonnt of people give or take who doubt he would. Edited March 22, 2023 by Skinsinparadise 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anselmheifer Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 How has Harris been as an owner of his NHL and NBA teams? Bezos is kind of a cult of personality situation. And I think we assume he’d spend money. What do people think of the pluses and minuses from a team building standpoint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: B. He hasn't toured the facility. Everyone else interested toured it. I know some say here the same rules don't apply to Bezos -- but others following this process think it could mean something. Most indeed take the time to take a look at what they would be inheriting. Keim reported 2 unknown groups toured the facility. One around 2 weeks ago. With that timing the two groups are probably the Houston Rockets guy and Bezos’ people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, SoCalSkins said: Keim reported 2 unknown groups toured the facility. One around 2 weeks ago. With that timing the two groups are probably the Houston Rockets guy and Bezos’ people. Someone said if I recall it was either Keim or Bram when they were on together, that Bezos wasn't one of them. but I guess you never know. If I recall Finlay said not long ago that he heard Bezos has not toured the facility but that was about a week ago. The Rockets guy isn't one of the two either. I believe he was one of the two known vistors along with Harris. Keim is specifically saying there are two mysterious bidders. names that aren't out. Edited March 22, 2023 by Skinsinparadise 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 30 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: Optimism A. B. C. D. Pessimism A. B. C. D. E. Hey! Your Optimism to Pessimism ratio in regards to future Dark Lord Bezos is unequal! Bias! Inherit bias I say! Another poster I gotta keep my eye on. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 14 hours ago, spjunkies said: Hey everyone, maybe we should cool it with the Epstein and Jared stuff it's getting a little gross. Just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Who is this guy 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Conn said: Who is this guy Mr. and Mrs. Apostolopoulos's son. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigskinRedskin Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 More about Steve Apostolopoulos: Quote Mr. Steve ApostolopoulosManaging Partner, Triple Group of Companies (TGC) Steve Apostolopoulos is the Managing Partner of Triple Group of Companies (TGC), a Toronto-based full service real estate firm specializing in the purchase, leasing, development and management of commercial space. He is also the Co-Founder and Chief Development Officer of Triple Properties, a privately-owned enterprise engaged in real estate investment, development, asset management and leasing. Mr. Steve Apostolopoulos is the founder of Six Ventures Inc., a private equity venture fund. An entrepreneur by nature, Mr. Apostolopoulos contributes to a wide variety of philanthropic organizations with his family. via: https://rewealth-canada.com/mr-steve-apostolopoulos/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Canadian billionaire Steve Apostolopoulos has become the newest potential bidder to tour the Washington Commanders' stadium and training facility as he seeks to buy the franchise, league sources told ESPN. There are only three known bidders for the Commanders -- groups led by Josh Harris, Houston Rockets owner Tillman Fertitta and now Apostolopoulos, though there has been speculation that Amazon founder Jeff Bezos could potentially join the mix as well. Apostolopoulos also recently had discussions to buy the NBA's Charlotte Hornets from Michael Jordan but has focused on the opportunity to purchase the Commanders, according to sources. 2dJohn Keim Commanders owners Dan and Tanya Snyder announced their intention to sell the team in November. Forbes has listed the value of the franchise at $5.6 billion With the NFL owners meeting in Phoenix starting Monday, there has been increased speculation over when a deal could be announced. Apostolopoulos is the founder of Six Ventures Inc., a private equity venture fund. He was born in Toronto, attended Harvard and contributes to a wide variety of philanthropic organizations. Harris' group was strengthened earlier this month when he was joined by Mitchell Rales, a Washington-based billionaire has a net worth of $5.5 billion, according to Forbes. Basketball Hall of Famer Earvin "Magic" Johnson also has joined the Harris-led group, sources confirmed to ESPN on Monday. Johnson, also a part owner of the Los Angeles Dodgers, was part of the Harris group that failed to land the Denver Broncos last summer. Harris also owns the NBA's Philadelphia 76ers and the NHL's New Jersey Devils. ESPN's John Keim contributed to this report. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35917988/sources-billionaire-steve-apostolopoulos-joins-bidders-commanders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 I think Dan hasn't gotten his price yet, hence the reason no sale being announced yet. He's trying to get price up and more bidders to get that price up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 9. Apostolopoulos Family – $3.9 billion According to Canadian Business, the Apostolopoulos Family is worth $3.9 billion. The family owns the largest privately-held real estate company, Triple Group. The company has humble beginnings as the founder of the company, Andreas Apostolopos, a Greek immigrant, started his Canadian journey as a worker for KFC. He later went on to start a cleaning business followed by a plastics manufacturing company before setting up Triple Group. The Apostolopoulos family are probably most well known for their controversial purchase of the Silverdome in Michigan in 2002. Andreas Apostolopoulos threw out a bid at an auction for the dome on a whim for 500,000 USD. The city was expecting 17 million USD. There weren’t many eager bidders on the property and the Apostololopoulos family came out on top. That’s not the Apostolopoulos family courtesy. Their decision to create a casino on wetlands in Pickering, Ontario had the local community up in arms. Despite that, Triple Group got the go ahead. Although the casino and Silverdome make it seem like the Apostolopolous family made their fortune in luxury projects, that’s actually far from the truth. The family’s wealth is a result of purchasing bargain basement properties and flipping them. Regardless of how they did it, the family takes the number 8 spot on the richest Canadians living in Toronto. https://hardbacon.ca/en/richest/the-36-richest-people-in-toronto-their-net-worth-and-how-they-made-their-money/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF44 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 3.9????? Get outta here with that mess 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 44 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Just now, HOF44 said: 3.9????? Get outta here with that mess mere peasent 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dckey Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 He was worth 3.9 Billion in 2015 as well, If he's still only worth the same amount now, doesn't seem like a smart business man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Is this one of the "mystery guys" or a new guy altogether? I'd imagine he is just the head of a significant collective investment group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 @Die Hardupon hearing the news that a Canadian is in the running to purchase the team: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 minute ago, FootballZombie said: Is this one of the "mystery guys" or a new guy altogether 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Man and I thought "Harris-Rales" was too many syllables. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actorguy1 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Guessing one of the two mystery bidders mentioned previously. Possibly a good sign that he's been turned down recently, thus the leak from Schefter/NFL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsRock80 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1st and goal from the 50. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, dckey said: He was worth 3.9 Billion in 2015 as well, If he's still only worth the same amount now, doesn't seem like a smart business man. That’s his whole family’s worth. Not just him. Unless he plans to buy with the equivalent of billionaire food stamps he’s priced out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor_Nutter_Butter Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 My God, the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, SkinsRock80 said: 1st and goal from the 50. Nobody can question Bezos' arm strength. He can get it in the EZ from there on a hail mary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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