ntotoro Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said: The trading the pass rushers thing is a stone cold lock. Β Heβs already started with that nonsense. Β Β somebody should ask why young and sweat are better for both the teams they went to rather than here. Β Β Well... Sweat, anyway. Young shows up on the stat sheets about as often as he did here, if not less. Sweat was the one no one wanted to lose, but the deal was too good to pass.Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samy316 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, illone said: Ron is a good person and well respected in NFL circles. Β I wish Ron Rivera all the best. Β I know he gave it everything he had in Washington, and I'll always give him credit for helping rid the old owner. Β Ron deserves respect on the way out imho. Β He understands the business side of things. Β Ultimately he wasn't able to get the QB position right, and got exposed as a dinosaur coach that didn't adapt to the modern NFL.Β All while GM'ing some of the worst draft classes in the league for a few years.Β After 4 years the roster is worse but ownership is much improved. Β I call it a win. Β Thanks Ron and god speed! Β Β No offense, but SCREW Ron Rivera, and everyone in that brain-dead front office regime of his. Β I hope the dozens of Washington fans in the stands these next two weeks amongst the sea of 49ers fans and Cowboys fans chants βna-na-na-na, hey-hey-hey, GOODBYE! at that absolute clown Rivera and his whole coaching staff. Β They set us back something fierce with his stupid draft choices and signings. Β He deserves no respect or benefit of the doubt from any fans of this team. Β Next Sunday should be a celebration of the great things to come next for this org, as we flush out the last few remnants of the Snyder regime, especially the largest turd of them all, Ron Rivera. Β In about 9-10 days, the rebirth of this organization back to relevancy is going to begin. Β It might be a long, bumpy road back to respectability, but there is light is at the end of this dark tunnel weβve been stuck in for the last 25-30 years. Edited December 29, 2023 by samy316 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted December 29, 2023 Author Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 hour ago, HigSkin said: His firing/release will probably go under reported because the Belichick departure is going to occupy the news cycle outside of the DMV. Β Β BB will be the biggest story but that story will take a week or two to play out; before BB departs. Kraft is going to try to trade BB but will BB go along with that. Β Ron should be the next firing though itβs possible other teams may fire their coach on the evening of the 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Mexican Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, samy316 said: No offense, but SCREW Ron Rivera, and everyone in that brain-dead front office regime of his. Β I hope the dozens of Washington fans in the stands these next two weeks amongst the sea of 49ers fans and Cowboys fans chants βna-na-na-na, hey-hey-hey, GOODBYE! at that absolute clown Rivera and his whole coaching staff. Β They set us back something fierce with his stupid draft choices and signings. Β He deserves no respect or benefit of the doubt from any fans of this team. Β Next Sunday should be a celebration of the great things to come next for this org, as we flush out the last few remnants of the Snyder regime, especially the largest turd of them all, Ron Rivera. Β In about 9-10 days, the rebirth of this organization back to relevancy is going to begin. Β It might be a long, bumpy road back to respectability, but there is light is at the end of this dark tunnel weβve been stuck in for the last 25-30 years. Β He turned out to be a very bad personnel evaluator. Like historically bad. Β Yet, he won the biggest game of all: his own battle against cancer. Can't argue with that in the big picture. Β Edited December 29, 2023 by El Mexican 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Young ain't better now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Koolblue13 said: Young ain't better now. Β He's proving to be a LaVar Arrington clone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 hour ago, ntotoro said: Β Well... Sweat, anyway. Young shows up on the stat sheets about as often as he did here, if not less. Sweat was the one no one wanted to lose, but the deal was too good to pass.Β The guy from SF who was on with Keim said he's helped them in pass-rush situations quite a bit. But he's only playing on 50-60% of snaps in known passing situations. Β He's clearly a shell of his former self due to the injury.Β Which is just massively unfortunate.Β That was a devastating injury.Β Β Β It's a pity the national media doesn't realize how devastating the injury was and the fact he's no longer who he was.Β Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 3 hours ago, Voice_of_Reason said: 4 hours ago, ntotoro said: Β The guy from SF who was on with Keim said he's helped them in pass-rush situations quite a bit. Not sure it was the same guy, but on G&D they had a SF guy say something similar. Β But, it was under the guise of Bosaβs went from 3 to 10 sacks since heβs been there. Β Grantβs response was βwell wouldnβt Bosa get to 10 sacks anywaysβ and I have to agree. Β The one thing Young has going for him there is nobody cares to talk to or about him because heβs surrounded by big time players, where as here - he was supposed to be the big time player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 The severity of his injury and being a shadow of himself will be a talking point before long. He can only go on being perceived as a βforce multiplierβ for better players for so long before people start wondering where the production is. If heβs lucky heβll have some well-timed sack/FF hot streak happen in the playoffs and ride that into a decent contract with someone in the offseason.Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooseneck Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 4 hours ago, El Mexican said: Β He turned out to be a very bad personnel evaluator. Like historically bad. Β Yet, he won the biggest game of all: his own battle against cancer. Can't argue with that in the big picture. Β Good post.Β I feel bad for him because he was genuinely a good guy; coaching had just passed him by. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyst Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 5 hours ago, ntotoro said: Β Well... Sweat, anyway. Young shows up on the stat sheets about as often as he did here, if not less. Sweat was the one no one wanted to lose, but the deal was too good to pass.Β I will add that while Sweat was good here (not great) and is doing really well with Chicago, Preston Smith also had a quick spike in GreenBay before reverting back to his averages but also, we needed to get younger and got a good offer for him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, gooseneck said: I feel bad for him because he was genuinely a good guy Edited December 30, 2023 by Sacks 'n' Stuff 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Β 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapsSkins Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: Β Β Poor Rick Snider couldn't even get his years vs. W-L records straight by the end of his list. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Just now, CapsSkins said: Β Poor Rick Snider couldn't even get his years vs. W-L records straight by the end of his list. Zorn going 2008 and 9 must be the greatest coaching job in sports history.Β 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapsSkins Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 29 minutes ago, Rufus T Firefly said: Zorn going 2008 and 9 must be the greatest coaching job in sports history.Β Β The rankings don't even make sense. Rivera's ~.400 win percentage should be above Shanny at .375. How is he even coming up with these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, CapsSkins said: Β The rankings don't even make sense. Rivera's ~.400 win percentage should be above Shanny at .375. How is he even coming up with these? Well, he's obviously ranking them by what he thinks, not by percentage. Schottenheimer's pct is actually better than Gibbs'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rufus T Firefly said: Well, he's obviously ranking them by what he thinks, not by percentage. Schottenheimer's pct is actually better than Gibbs'. Also. Β Heβs a lying, stealing, plagiarizing, know nothing, no sourced ass hat who hasnβt had an original thought since Bush (the first one) was President. Β Β Β @ConnΒ heβs another guy to add to the list of people living rent free in my head. Β I am really am beyond hope. Β Edited December 30, 2023 by Voice_of_Reason 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgundyBooger Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 On 12/28/2023 at 11:43 PM, illone said: Ron is a good person and well respected in NFL circles. Β Β IMO, thereβs only two types of respect: the Belichick/Reid/Kyle level of respect that most owners would give up the farm and first-born to acquire, then thereβs the βrespectβ where people just like you or know of you but wouldnβt give a drop of pi** for. Ron falls in the second category, and regardless of what Harris does in the next two weeks, I think the league and any HC/GM prospect can overcome their βrespectβ for Ron and completely be understanding of Harrisβs predicament.Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted December 30, 2023 Author Share Posted December 30, 2023 Firing Ron should have nothing to do with Harrisβs ability on getting a replacement. Β He earned his firing. Β Β The past shouldnβt hurt us because it will be a new slate this hiring cycle. Β New owner and new Gm doing the hiring. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAskins Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 18 hours ago, CapsSkins said: Β Poor Rick Snider couldn't even get his years vs. W-L records straight by the end of his list. He ran out of time.Β 2 minutes just wasn't long enough. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 39 minutes ago, RVAskins said: He ran out of time.Β 2 minutes just wasn't long enough. Heβs probably heard that before tooβ¦. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 On 12/29/2023 at 7:41 AM, BatteredFanSyndrome said: This is a wild take. Β He had nothing to do with Dan selling, in fact - he went out of his way to be complimentary of him on his way out the door. Β Iβve never seen a coach dig their own grave like this guy. Β Β Just a different perspectiveΒ π Β He definitely dug his own grave. Doesn't mean I need to set him on fire on the way out. Β Β 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 10 hours ago, illone said: Just a different perspectiveΒ π Β He definitely dug his own grave. Doesn't mean I need to set him on fire on the way out. This appears to be the Harris Groups perspective as well...so far. Β Besides, not only has he dug his own grave, he poured gas on himself and getting ready to light a match. Β If we can come out of the next two weeks playing semi-respectfully, end out with a top 3 pick and not get any players hurt or embarrassed, that is a fine win for everyone involved other than Ron's crap record 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac8887 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 At least with rons boring off seasons, we aren't saddled with bad contracts and no picks. Yes the cupboard might be bare, but at the very least the new fo and coach will have plenty of picks and cap space to build with. Here's to hope of a bright new future, a future of more professionalism and less sexual harassment. Β 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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