Renegade7 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 57 minutes ago, ThomasRoane said: After so many years of frustration (since Gibbs 1.0), I've learned not to think too much about the future with this franchise. That's why we are fans and not running the franchise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: That's why we are fans and not running the franchise... A self professed fan IS running the franchise. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: That's why we are fans and not running the franchise... Money is why I'm not running the team. Thats the only reason. If I could buy out Snyder I would and it would be absolutely awful for all of you people. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, Morneblade said: A self professed fan IS running the franchise. He owns the team, but he's not building the roster or managing the contracts so we don't go into cap hell. Front Office has to think about the future even if we don't want to, thats my point 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Bloodytusk said: Just guessing but maybe adam's apple and ears? Jersey number is all I can find... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Kev Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 I suffer from mild Prosopagnosia, so they all look the same to me. I do think that apart from the eyes, nose, mouth and hairline, Madden has pretty much nailed it 🙂. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Renegade7 said: He owns the team, but he's not building the roster or managing the contracts so we don't go into cap hell. Front Office has to think about the future even if we don't want to, thats my point No, that's true. He just hires everyone that is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey hodge Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 And some wonder why there's a twinkle of hope around what our eyes have seen with TH#4. This article from the WaPo sums it up nicely. "...the Redskins drafted the quarterback who was going to be their future. They took Shuler with the third pick of the 1994 draft, and it seemed like the perfect choice. Shuler had been a star at the University of Tennessee, turning pro after his junior season. He projected as a superstar, with the size and athleticism that coaches love and the ability to rocket throws past defenders with uncanny accuracy. Norv Turner, the Redskins’ coach at the time, saw in Shuler a player he once turned into a Hall of Famer when he was offensive coordinator of the Dallas Cowboys. He saw Troy Aikman. Instead, his selection was the beginning of a cascade of botched or ill-fated quarterback decisions that has put the Redskins back in the same place a quarter of a century later: desperate to draft a quarterback who can stop the franchise from careening into irrelevance and bring back winning again. Long before Alex Smith’s leg broke and the ensuing surgeries to remove infection from the wound left Washington looking for its next quarterback, Shuler arrived heralded as a savior before he left with a 4-9 record and six more interceptions than touchdown passes." https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/04/23/years-ago-redskins-picked-wrong-qb-heath-shuler-is-fine-team-isnt/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasRoane Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, petey hodge said: “To this day I don’t think anyone can figure out why Heath Shuler wasn’t successful,” Cameron says. “He had all the measurables for a guy to be successful. It just didn’t happen.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/04/23/years-ago-redskins-picked-wrong-qb-heath-shuler-is-fine-team-isnt/ Therein lies the rub. Never chose any of my QBs because they were the right height, arm strength, or athleticism. I looked for the following three characteristics; in order. 1) Leadership. Your QB is a field general. Even in the huddle he must speak with authority and make his team mates believe that if they do their jobs then every play will work. 2) Toughness. The last thing your players need to see is your QB lying on the ground every time he gets leveled. If nothing is broken you better bounce up quick! 3) Football smart. Must be a quick thinker able to grasp the offense and know what the defense is doing. From presnap to post snap must be able to make quick decisions. Some of the best QBs I coached used to finish play calls before I could even get the call out of my mouth. They were already thinking what I was thinking. Measurables are VASTLY over rated. Another problem with Shuler. He didn't have "it." Edited October 9, 2021 by ThomasRoane 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 33 minutes ago, petey hodge said: And some wonder why there's a twinkle of hope around what our eyes have seen with TH#4. This article from the WaPo sums it up nicely. "...the Redskins drafted the quarterback who was going to be their future. They took Shuler with the third pick of the 1994 draft, and it seemed like the perfect choice. Shuler had been a star at the University of Tennessee, turning pro after his junior season. He projected as a superstar, with the size and athleticism that coaches love and the ability to rocket throws past defenders with uncanny accuracy. Norv Turner, the Redskins’ coach at the time, saw in Shuler a player he once turned into a Hall of Famer when he was offensive coordinator of the Dallas Cowboys. He saw Troy Aikman. Instead, his selection was the beginning of a cascade of botched or ill-fated quarterback decisions that has put the Redskins back in the same place a quarter of a century later: desperate to draft a quarterback who can stop the franchise from careening into irrelevance and bring back winning again. Long before Alex Smith’s leg broke and the ensuing surgeries to remove infection from the wound left Washington looking for its next quarterback, Shuler arrived heralded as a savior before he left with a 4-9 record and six more interceptions than touchdown passes." https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/04/23/years-ago-redskins-picked-wrong-qb-heath-shuler-is-fine-team-isnt/ So you’re saying the Turners are geniuses in turning afterthought QBs into mediocre ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 31 minutes ago, PartyPosse said: So you’re saying the Turners are geniuses in turning afterthought QBs into mediocre ones? I would say "serviceable ones" instead of mediocre ones...which, to be honest, turning afterthought QBs into serviceable backups or even starters is one helluva skill to posses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey hodge Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 hour ago, ThomasRoane said: Therein lies the rub. Never chose any of my QBs because they were the right height, arm strength, or athleticism. I looked for the following three characteristics; in order. 1) Leadership. Your QB is a field general. Even in the huddle he must speak with authority and make his team mates believe that if they do their jobs then every play will work. 2) Toughness. The last thing you're players need to see is your QB lying on the ground every time he gets leveled. If nothing is broken you better bounce up quick! 3) Football smart. Must be a quick thinker able to grasp the offense and know what the defense is doing. From presnap to post snap must be able to make quick decisions. Some of the best QBs I coached used to finish play calls before I could even get the call out of my mouth. They were already thinking what I was thinking. Measurables are VASTLY over rated. Another problem with Shuler. He didn't have "it." Scouts (and fans) are obsessed with the muscles generating Taylor's [questionable] arm strength... when the muscle between his ears matters most. Killer instinct... he got it! That being said, I am not a "give him a big contract NOW" bandwagon... I want to see one full year of starts just like his critics. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander PK Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 hour ago, ThomasRoane said: Therein lies the rub. Never chose any of my QBs because they were the right height, arm strength, or athleticism. I looked for the following three characteristics; in order. 1) Leadership. Your QB is a field general. Even in the huddle he must speak with authority and make his team mates believe that if they do their jobs then every play will work. 2) Toughness. The last thing you're players need to see is your QB lying on the ground every time he gets leveled. If nothing is broken you better bounce up quick! 3) Football smart. Must be a quick thinker able to grasp the offense and know what the defense is doing. From presnap to post snap must be able to make quick decisions. Some of the best QBs I coached used to finish play calls before I could even get the call out of my mouth. They were already thinking what I was thinking. Measurables are VASTLY over rated. Another problem with Shuler. He didn't have "it." Great post, and here is what those things are not: 1. Leadership is not "know your why" 2. Toughness is not refusing to slide and letting defensive behemoths beat on you to prove some kind of half-assed point. 3. Football Smart is not in year #2 refusing to run certain plays, and insist on being molded into something you are not overnight. We had a guy like that here once. He was drafted very high in the draft, and was crowned from day #1. I was part of the problem. I crowned him also. I don't know that he ever understood how lucky he was to be here, and most importantly what it would take for him to stay here. Measurables are VASTLY overrated. Not everybody follows the same path to success in life. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Tomb Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 The second RG3 started branding his comeback, I knew it would never work out. He was in it for himself and his teammates began to see right through it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 6 hours ago, zskins said: I am not seeing any features they got right. Not the facial features, but the Adam’s apple and that hairline on the left side is pretty good. Ears aren’t bad I guess? Overall comically bad though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePackisback Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 I’m telling you guys when you come to Lambeau we’re in for a tough game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 34 minutes ago, ThePackisback said: I’m telling you guys when you come to Lambeau we’re in for a tough game. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudLighticke Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Longtime lurker of the board, but #4 inspired me to join. I fricken love the guy. Most fun quarterbacking play I can remember for Washington certainly since 2012 Bob. Do I blame anyone for having some trepidation with the small sample size and the actual likelihood we stumbled upon a legitimate starting QB that was sitting on his sisters couch less than 365 days ago? Not at all. Do I understand that this guy has proven he can play, regardless of physical limitations? Absolutely. There’s something about this guy that just really makes you wonder if he can be the one in a million. He’s an absolute baller, and guys will play for him. That’s more than half the battle right there. Look forward to seeing where this thing takes us. God knows we are due for some blind luck around here. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey hodge Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, BudLighticke said: Longtime lurker of the board, but #4 inspired me to join. 3 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 2 hours ago, ThePackisback said: I’m telling you guys when you come to Lambeau we’re in for a tough game. Oh by the way, why is your avatar WFT and you are a Pack fan and you always say your team sucks. I take it you still haven't come out of the closet yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 3 hours ago, ThePackisback said: I’m telling you guys when you come to Lambeau we’re in for a tough game. I’ll pull for the kid in a bud light hat taking college courses a year ago over the ****y meditating millionaire with a man bun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 5 hours ago, ThePackisback said: I’m telling you guys when you come to Lambeau we’re in for a tough game. Packers 37 Team 27 Unless the defense improves; you won’t have much a challenge. Taylor will be playing catch-up all game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 4 hours ago, petey hodge said: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 7 hours ago, ThePackisback said: I’m telling you guys when you come to Lambeau we’re in for a tough game. We should jus all pitch in and get you a Washington No-Name jersey since you won't get one yourself 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefanskins Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Califan007 said: well it’s obvious she’s never been to this kinda party… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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