The Vaccine Thread

[TheGreatBuzz]

11 hours ago, TryTheBeal! said:

K for a clavicle?  I can see it.  Zombie vibes confirmed.
 

Guess they prolly did you a favor keeping you off the oxy.

The broken clavicle was causing arm nerves to get pinched between it and 1st rib, which they ended up removing.  Pinched nerves hurt like a mother ****er!  And I refused oxy for anything more than a day or two.  I’ve seen the effects of becoming a junkie.

Edited September 5, 2021 by TheGreatBuzz

[Cooked Crack]

 

 

[China]

As more US adults intend to have covid vaccine, national study also finds more people feel it’s not needed

 

A peer-reviewed analysis of US national survey data of 75,000 adults shows, from early January to late March, a near “18 percentage point” increase of adults who have either had the COVID-19 vaccine jab or are willing to do have it.

 

However, belief that a vaccine is not needed also increased by more than “5 percentage points” among adults who said they probably will not, or definitely will not get vaccinated. Beliefs vary depending on peoples’ age, race, socioeconomic background and their geography.

 

The findings, published Open Access today in the journal Annals of Medicine, show –  in particular – that younger adults; people who are non-Hispanic Black or other/multiple races; those of lower socioeconomic status; and people living in the southeastern region of the country, remained least likely to have had the vaccine – or willing to do so from January to March 2021.

People who had previously had COVID-19, or were unsure if they’d had it, were also less likely to intend to get vaccinated.

 

Overall, though, people who are reluctant toward the vaccine only represents around 10% of the US public. Who, according to the findings of this survey, quote not trusting the government (40%) or not trusting the efficacy of the vaccine (45%) as to their reasons for not wanting the vaccine.

 

As for the larger group – those stating they would probably by jabbed but haven’t been so yet – they state reasons as to not having it so far as:

- plan to wait and see (55%)
- concern about possible side effects (51%),
- belief that other people need it more (36%).

 

The results provide timely information on disparities in vaccine confidence. And lead author Dr Kimberly Nguyen of Tufts University School of Medicine, Boston, says she hopes the results can inform and target efforts to improve vaccine uptake across all communities.

 

“Highlighting vaccines as important for resuming work, school, and social activities is critical to preventing the spread of COVID-19 incidence and bringing an end to the pandemic,” she said.

 

“Also, communicating to the public about the need for vaccination despite a history of covid infection is also important since it remains uncertain if infection provides immunity and if so, how long this protection will last.”

 

Vaccines are a huge step forward in overcoming the pandemic, but successful implementation of a vaccination program depends upon their uptake. As of 8 August 2021, 181 million, or more than 70% of US adults aged 18 or older had received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine. But in recent months, the US vaccination rate has slowed down considerably despite widespread vaccine availability.

 

Previous studies carried out in September and December 2020, suggested only 50% of US adults planned to get a COVID-19 vaccine once it was available to them.  

 

Click on the link for the full article

[mojo]

On 9/4/2021 at 11:42 PM, Spaceman Spiff said:

 

That post had fake news written all over it when I saw it.  Rolling Stone wouldn’t even issue a retraction.  Just an update saying it all BS.

 

[bearrock]

1 hour ago, China said:

As for the larger group – those stating they would probably by jabbed but haven’t been so yet – they state reasons as to not having it so far as:

- plan to wait and see (55%)
- concern about possible side effects (51%),
- belief that other people need it more (36%).

 

- Bull****

- Bull****

- ****ing bull****

 

If you don't want to get vaxxed, at least have the guts to say so.  Don't insult our intelligence.  

 

[Cooked Crack]

51 minutes ago, mojo said:

That post had fake news written all over it when I saw it.  Rolling Stone wouldn’t even issue a retraction.  Just an update saying it all BS.

 

 

 

 

[Cooked Crack]

Spoiler

Did not go well for the unvaccinated twin.

 

[Sticksboi05]

15 hours ago, mojo said:

 

 

 

This is the epitome of the danger of today's social media reporting era. Everyone just wants to be first without actually doing proper reporting. Could've just called the hospitals to find out the truth.

Edited September 7, 2021 by Sticksboi05

[Cooked Crack]

 

 

[Larry]

But it's like gun control.  

 

The people who support it will tell a pollster that they support it.  But that's about all they'll do.  

 

The people who oppose it will threaten physical violence.  And sometimes carry them out.  

 

And remember.  A large chunk of political office holders are Republicans, in safe Republican districts.  In other words, the only election they care about is the Republican primary.  (And odds are that number will grow, after redistricting.)  

 

Do you think vaccine mandates will help a politician win the Republican primary?  Or hurt him?  

 

(Look at the actions of said politicians, and you'll see which action they think will help them.)  

[China]

Rep. Jim Jordan Gets Jabbed On Twitter After Screwing Up Basic U.S. History

 

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) received a history lesson on Twitter on Monday after making an incorrect claim about vaccines in the United States.

 

As doctors and public health officials struggle to encourage more people to get vaccinated against the coronavirus, the lawmaker tweeted:

 

 

But many were quick to point out that vaccine mandates were so American that there might not have been an America without an early form of such a mandate. As PoliticFact previously noted, Gen. George Washington ordered his troops to be inoculated against smallpox in 1777 via a precursor to vaccination called variolation.

 

Healthline reported last month that school vaccine mandates have existed in the United States since the 1850s when the first one was enacted in Massachusetts to stop the spread of smallpox.

 

And Lawrence Gostin, a professor of global health law at Georgetown University, told NPR last week that the Supreme Court upheld vaccine mandates more than a century ago.

 

“That was something where the Supreme Court said that we don’t have a right to place other people at risk,” Gostin said. “And by 1922, in another case, Justice Brandeis, writing for unanimous court, upheld childhood school mandates, calling it settled law.”

 

Click on the link for the full story

[China]

Arizona attorney general: Vaccine mandate for Tucson city employees is illegal

 

Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich (R) said that Tucson’s vaccine mandate for city employees is illegal. 

 

In a news release Tuesday, Brnovich’s office announced that the city of Tucson violated a state law approved this summer prohibiting local governments from implementing vaccine mandates for their employees. 

 

Tucson’s new legislation requires employees to be vaccinated or face a five-day suspension without pay, according to The Associated Press.

 

Many Democratic-led cities in the state have passed legislation that conflicts with the GOP's policies on COVID-19. 

 

“Tucson’s vaccine mandate is illegal, and the city could be held liable for attempting to force employees to take it against their beliefs,” Brnovich said in the news release. “COVID-19 vaccinations should be a choice, not a government mandate.”

 

Click on the link for the full article

[Captain Wiggles]

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On January 6th 1777, George Washington wrote to Dr. William Shippen Jr., ordering him to inoculate all the troops that came through Philadelphia.

 

Whoa! Cosmic.

 

Edited September 8, 2021 by clietas

[mojo]

The good news: the US has hit the 70% vax goal Biden set

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/08/02/covid-vaccine-us-reaches-bidens-70percent-goal-for-adults-a-month-behind.html

the bad news: Covid cases up 300% up from last year

Edited September 8, 2021 by mojo

[CobraCommander]

11 minutes ago, mojo said:

The good news: the US has hit the 70% vax goal Biden set

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/08/02/covid-vaccine-us-reaches-bidens-70percent-goal-for-adults-a-month-behind.html

the bad news: Covid cases up 300% up from last year

Just makes me mad that anti-vaxxers are potentially killing people with compromised immune systems and people waiting for hospital beds because they are filled with idiots. 

[TradeTheBeal!]

Cases up 300% from last year?  
 

What does that mean exactly?  And why no link on that claim?

 

Btw, ~53% of Americans have completed vaccination.

[Ball Security]

13 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said:

Cases up 300% from last year?  
 

What does that mean exactly?  And why no link on that claim?

 

Btw, ~53% of Americans have completed vaccination.

I saw that in an article either yesterday or a couple of days ago.  What I believe it means is that there are three times as many cases from Jan 1-August 31 2021 than Jan 1 to August 31 2020.  Of course, this thing didn’t touch many states until March 2020 and Jan/Feb 2021 was engulfed in the biggest wave.  It also conveniently excludes the last four months of 2020.  It’s an example of making the stats say what you want them to.  It gets clicks though.

[Jabbyrwock]

54 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said:

Cases up 300% from last year?  
 

What does that mean exactly?

 

It means 3 times as many idiots are attempting suicide by COVID this year compared to the number of people that caught a less virulent strain last year when we were under more or less complete lock down wondering when we'd find our next scrap of toilet paper.

[Llevron]

Just as an update, the vaccine mandate in my office was enough to spur my Manager to get the jab. 

 

I flicked a paper clip at her (we have a very cool relationship, so she wouldn't take that as disrespect) and she looked at me like 'Wtf??" and I told her I wanted to see if it would stick. She fell over laughing said she was jipped. She will never admit it, but she knows how silly that **** was. 

 

Conservative work roomie however has not been in the office for a week and they are delegating his work. 🤔 

[Califan007 The Constipated]

On 9/7/2021 at 7:35 AM, Sticksboi05 said:

 

 

This is the epitome of the danger of today's social media reporting era. Everyone just wants to be first without actually doing proper reporting. Could've just called the hospitals to find out the truth.

 

It's also the danger of today's social media audience, who chomp at the bit to believe anything that backs up their biases and agendas. And that goes for both sides--those willing to believe the paraphrasing of a story and those willing to believe Rolling Stone and this doctor just fabricated the story completely.

[Larry]

4 hours ago, TryTheBeal! said:

Cases up 300% from last year?  
 

What does that mean exactly?  And why no link on that claim?

 

CDC Covid Data Tracker.  

 

Total cases.  (I assume that means "how many people are considered infected, at this time".)  (7 day moving average).  

 

Sept 3, 2020:    40.516

Sept 3, 2021:  253,979

 

That's actually a 526% increase.  

 

And right now, we have 53% of total population vaccinated, and 6 times as many infections as we had when there was no vaccine.  

 

It's because we're not vaccinated (enough), and we've decided that we don't have to take precautions, either.  

 

Now, the good news is, while the infections are running 6 times what they were a year ago, deaths aren't up that much.  Same source, same dates, 7 day average daily deaths:  

 

9/3/20:     882

9/3/21:  1,162

 

Only a 30% increase.  

 

[bcl05]

 

[steve09ru]

shouldn't be too surprising when comparing Sept. 20 to Sept. 21.  We were still pretty shut down at that point last year.  Things are opened back up to basically pre-covid now.

 

If you look at peak times, this wave (deaths) is about 70% less when compared to the biggest peak (January) and 25% less than original peak (April 2020). 

 

Our current active cases now (highest of current peak) is in line with our highest peak back in January (just over 9M).  We haven't gone below 4.75M active infections since November 22nd.

 

 

[Mooka]

Just feels like last year. Half the country is following protocols and the other half doesn't care. (maybe closer to 70-30)

 

Where I live, once the evenning starts there is no covid and no one cares about any mandates. 

[Riggo-toni]