KDawg Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 51 minutes ago, JamesMadisonSkins said: Just did what I THOUGHT was a pretty realistic mock draft, and it sucks for us haha. 1. Jags - Lawrence 2. Jets - Wilson 3. 49ers - Fields 4. Falcons - Pitts 5. Bengals - Sewell 6. Dolphins - Chase 7. *NE - Lance 8. Panthers - Mac Jones 9. Denver - Slater 10. *Colts - Darrisaw 11. Giants - Waddle 12. Eagles - Smith 13. Chargers - Vera-Tucker 14. Vikings - Phillips 15. Lions - Parsons 16. Cards - Surtain 17. Raidahs - JOK 18. Dolphins - Paye 19. ________ Guess you go BPA there and take Farley, which would be a huge long-term boost to our secondary. And probably the smart move, albeit unecessary and not an immediate *need* ... I guess it doesn't "Suck" but I have gotten to a point where anyone but Darrisaw at #19 isn't a great BPA + Fit. And the problem is, there isn't an obvious option at #19 that others might want to trade up for. Trading down is an easy concept in theory, not in reality. Not sure why you think that’s bad for us. Zaven is there. As is Najee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: Agree completely. They should have broken down more of what they were seeing from Trask. Pitts is a known commodity. I will say again that I though Trask looked really good over the middle of the field. Thought he looked uncomfortable throwing on the run. Especially rolling left. I can't recall a QB in a pro day that struggles with 10-20 yard crossers with no pressure -- just pitch and catch. They should nail those type of throws IMO. So i wasn't really moved by it. But he didn't blow those throws either so that's good. I am not at the extreme of some who said yesterday pro days are worthless and mean nothing. but I agree with part of the point that was made which is wearing shorts with no pressure doesn't really mimic games. So for me I look for freakish throws and arm strength. I didn't really see any of them from Trask but I didn't really expect to because IMO he doesn't have freakish talent. He threw some corner routes that were good -- the receivers had to adjust some to the ball. He didn't throw many deep balls but I recall two of them the receivers had to wait for the ball versus the ball being thrown ahead of them for the catch which we saw in Fields' and Jones' workout. I don't fault him for that -- at least he connected with them. This is just my meandering way of saying his pro day didn't move me one way or another. I don't feel better about him. I don't feel worse. As a flier in the 3rd round or later, I don't hate him, don't love him. If i had to guess it right now, i'd say he ends up an NFL backup. I slightly prefer Davis Mills over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max21 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Honestly it’s not even fair that the Niners somewhat fresh off a Super Bowl appearance are going to get Fields, he might have a better deep ball than Lawrence. I was just torturing myself watching YouTube videos of him ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Imagine Pitts with Julio Jones? If so that might put Cincy's pick up for auction at 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Yoda Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Jamin Davis is a freak of nature, he's been compared to Darius Leonard. The dude also obviously lives in the gym, he's getting closer to Zaven Collins for me as a prospect. I can't wait to see what Zaven times at and his numbers, but in the meantime, here's a shirtless photo of Jamin Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Koolblue13 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 3 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said: Ian Book. If I recall @Koolblue13 likes. I wouldn't hate it if they took him in the 4th-5th. He ran a 4.59 today. He plays some like Heinicke. Off script-scrambling. Plays with moxie. I don't love him but as a flier in the mid rounds, I'd get it. I'm pretty indifferent on all the QBs in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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seantaylor=god Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 16 minutes ago, JamesMadisonSkins said: Just did what I THOUGHT was a pretty realistic mock draft, and it sucks for us haha. 1. Jags - Lawrence 2. Jets - Wilson 3. 49ers - Fields 4. Falcons - Pitts 5. Bengals - Sewell 6. Dolphins - Chase 7. *NE - Lance 8. Panthers - Mac Jones 9. Denver - Slater 10. *Colts - Darrisaw 11. Giants - Waddle 12. Eagles - Smith 13. Chargers - Vera-Tucker 14. Vikings - Phillips 15. Lions - Parsons 16. Cards - Surtain 17. Raidahs - JOK 18. Dolphins - Paye 19. ________ Guess you go BPA there and take Farley, which would be a huge long-term boost to our secondary. And probably the smart move, albeit unecessary and not an immediate *need* ... I guess it doesn't "Suck" but I have gotten to a point where anyone but Darrisaw at #19 isn't a great BPA + Fit. And the problem is, there isn't an obvious option at #19 that others might want to trade up for. Trading down is an easy concept in theory, not in reality. Probably would come down to how they view Zaven Collins vs Cosmi and Farley’s health. If our doctors think Farley has no health concerns going forward I’d probably pick him, he’s a potential 1CB stud. I love Zaven too. Cosmi worries me a little but I’d be ok with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 ok, that's a little higher than the 4.59 I saw earlier but its still good Eichenberg also with 32 inch arms. So many short armed left tackles in this class. Adds to the appeal for Darrisaw IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Yoda Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Parsons is probably my least favorite "fit" for the defense out of the top 4LBers for me (Parsons, JOK, Collins, Davis). He's more of a guy that is going to make an impact in the run game and get a lot of TFLs. He's more similar to Holcomb playstyle-wise than the other 3. Collins, JOK, and Davis seem like great fits and perfect compliments to the defense. We need guys that can move and operate well in space. That's a concern that I have with Parsons in this defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Burgundy Yoda said: Parsons is probably my least favorite "fit" for the defense out of the top 4LBers for me (Parsons, JOK, Collins, Davis). He's more of a guy that is going to make an impact in the run game and get a lot of TFLs. He's more similar to Holcomb playstyle-wise than the other 3. Collins, JOK, and Davis seem like great fits and perfect compliments to the defense. We need guys that can move and operate well in space. That's a concern that I have with Parsons in this defense. what’s encouraging is that the quality at LB is there with depth it would seem, got to think if we were wanting one at #19, then it’s more than likely we can sit at that spot and take one. or even if the choice firstly is LT, with LB next, then things still look nicely set for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Yoda Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 32 minutes ago, UK SKINS FAN 74 said: what’s encouraging is that the quality at LB is there with depth it would seem, got to think if we were wanting one at #19, then it’s more than likely we can sit at that spot and take one. or even if the choice firstly is LT, with LB next, then things still look nicely set for us. I think the top 4 I mentioned are all 1st round quality off-ball LBers. The traits and production are all there, it will be exciting to see what JDR and Rivera can do with them. They're essentially moldable clay at this point for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvernon Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 25 minutes ago, Burgundy Yoda said: Parsons is probably my least favorite "fit" for the defense out of the top 4LBers for me (Parsons, JOK, Collins, Davis). He's more of a guy that is going to make an impact in the run game and get a lot of TFLs. He's more similar to Holcomb playstyle-wise than the other 3. Collins, JOK, and Davis seem like great fits and perfect compliments to the defense. We need guys that can move and operate well in space. That's a concern that I have with Parsons in this defense. I like Collins/Davis for the WFT. Parsons does fit this defense, but I'm thinking no chance he's here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 I'm not worried about a LBs ability to blitz/pass rush. We get plenty of pass rush from our front four. The traits I want are sideline to sideline mobility and ability to cover man to man(I think the addition of William Jackson signals that we're gonna try to play a lot more straight man this year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Yoda Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: I'm not worried about a LBs ability to blitz/pass rush. We get plenty of pass rush from our front four. The traits I want are sideline to sideline mobility and ability to cover man to man(I think the addition of William Jackson signals that we're gonna try to play a lot more straight man this year). You and I agree here completely, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 8 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: I'm not worried about a LBs ability to blitz/pass rush. We get plenty of pass rush from our front four. The traits I want are sideline to sideline mobility and ability to cover man to man(I think the addition of William Jackson signals that we're gonna try to play a lot more straight man this year). This. I expect a lot more cover zero and one this year. God help opposing QB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seantaylor=god Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 In the context of Eichenberg’s and AVT’s short arms (Slater 33, so borderline but ok), I got curious and started googling arm length for NFL OTs. It’s really interesting that it’s pretty hard to find any recent examples of guys with 32 inch arms being successful. Guys like Joe Thomas, Jason Peters, Ryan Ramczak, etc are shown as short arm examples but they are all over 33. Joe Thomas is just a hair under 34. I’d love to find recent examples of successful NFL OTs with 32 inch arms. I’d be playing the numbers and not drafting short armed OTs unless I also have a plan/need for them at OG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anselmheifer Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 19 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: I'm not worried about a LBs ability to blitz/pass rush. We get plenty of pass rush from our front four. The traits I want are sideline to sideline mobility and ability to cover man to man(I think the addition of William Jackson signals that we're gonna try to play a lot more straight man this year). Coverage ability is certainly important. I think the board could also push a top CB to us and I I’d rather have an awesome top 3 CB’s with lesser LB play. Imagine playing 3 great CB’s behind this DL. In terms of the linebackers, while I do want them to be able to cover. I’d love two add 2 LB’s that are also studs against the run. For having so much DT talent, teams tend to be able to run on us. I’m sure part of that is scheme. But, if we could consistently stone the run, and make teams one dimensional, they’d be forced to try to pass more, playing right into the hands of our pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 So elite in every category but one which he was good at and size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COWBOY-KILLA- Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Burgundy Yoda said: Jamin Davis is a freak of nature, he's been compared to Darius Leonard. The dude also obviously lives in the gym, he's getting closer to Zaven Collins for me as a prospect. I can't wait to see what Zaven times at and his numbers, but in the meantime, here's a shirtless photo of Jamin Davis. jamin is making a dash up everyone’s boards looks like. My only concern w/ him is he’s only started 11 games. So he’s an infant in terms of diagnosis of plays and experience. May take him some time. Which is totally fine as long as we stay patient and give him a chance to acclimate. That’s why the talk of him so early in the draft gives me a slight Pause. I don’t expect Zaven’s times to be amazing. Speed isn’t really his forte, but I do want to see at least something you can work with. Did JD work out today? What were his times? Haven’t had a chance to look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Yoda Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, COWBOY-KILLA- said: jamin is making a dash up everyone’s boards looks like. My only concern w/ him is he’s only started 11 games. So he’s an infant in terms of diagnosis of plays and experience. May take him some time. Which is totally fine as long as we stay patient and give him a chance to acclimate. That’s why the talk of him so early in the draft gives me a slight Pause. I don’t expect Zaven’s times to be amazing. Speed isn’t really his forte, but I do want to see at least something you can work with. Did JD work out today? What were his times? Haven’t had a chance to look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COWBOY-KILLA- Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, Burgundy Yoda said: Oh wow....Nice, yeah he made some $ with those numbers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 28 minutes ago, COWBOY-KILLA- said: Did JD work out today? What were his times? Haven’t had a chance to look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COWBOY-KILLA- Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Skinsinparadise said: wow.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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