zCommander Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) No you don't get a chance to absorb the 2020 draft. Don't put your drinks down yet. Let's start compiling for 2021. Plus MD made me do it this early....lol On 4/25/2020 at 7:06 PM, Malapropismic Depository said: Who's gonna hurry up and start the 2021 draft thread, before it falls behind. HTTR! KDAWG breaking it down by position! RB: https://es.redskins.com/topic/432951-2021-comprehensive-draft-thread/?do=findComment&comment=11973975 WR: https://es.redskins.com/topic/432951-2021-comprehensive-draft-thread/?do=findComment&comment=11980466 OT: https://es.redskins.com/topic/432951-2021-comprehensive-draft-thread/?do=findComment&comment=11985566 OG: https://es.redskins.com/topic/432951-2021-comprehensive-draft-thread/?do=findComment&comment=11987075 Edited January 30, 2021 by zskins 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvarlo12000 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 I guess we should just pencil in Justin Fields right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, kvarlo12000 said: I guess we should just pencil in Justin Fields right? Pencil in ? Trevor Lawrence will not give up that spot without a fight 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 OTs should deliver again: OT Penei Sewell Oregon OT Walker Little Stanford OT Alex Leatherwood Alabama WR Jamar Chase PSU Linebacker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Current wish list: Penei Sewell Ja'marr Chase 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) Can't wait to read and interact with all the great contributors to the draft threads! Best early guess right now I would say he Redskins will be focusing heavy on LB's, DB's and OL Edited April 26, 2020 by DWinzit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Yoda Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 17 minutes ago, JamesMadisonSkins said: OTs should deliver again: OT Penei Sewell Oregon OT Walker Little Stanford OT Alex Leatherwood Alabama WR Jamar Chase PSU Linebacker Micah Parsons. These are exactly the guys I'm eyeing in the 1st along with Patrick Surtain ll as well and Shaun Wade. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 (edited) Rankings in progress, here's a run down of some guys to watch: Please note: My rankings are based on RIGHT NOW. Not projecting the next season. Just where they stand right now in their developmental cycle. Some guys are rated lower that I think have a higher ceiling. Some are higher that I think have apexxed. Quarterbacks: Trevor Lawrence* Clemson 6-6, 220 Justin Fields* Ohio State 6-3, 223 Jamie Newman Georgia 6-4, 230 Kellen Mond* Texas A&M 6-4, 225 KJ Costello Miss. St 6-5, 215 Sam Ehlinger Texas 6-3, 230 Tanner Morgan* Minnesota 6-2, 215 Holton Ahlers* East Carolina 6-3, 235 Feleipe Franks Arkansas 6-5, 227 Kyle Trask Florida 6-5, 239 Sean Clifford Penn State 6-2, 216 Trey Lance** North Dakota 6-4. 195 (@JoggingGod suggestion) Runningbacks: OT: IOL: WR: Tight End: EDGE: Joe Tryon* Washington 6-5, 262 Quincy Roche Miami 6-4, 235 Carlos Basham Wake 6-5, 275 Thomas Booker* Stanford 6-4, 281 Brenton Cox, Jr* Florida 6-4, 247 Daelin Hayes Notre Dame 6-3, 260 Patrick Johnson Tulane 6-3, 250 Isaiahh Loudermilk Wisconsin 6-7, 300 Kylan Wilborn Arizona 6-2, 248 DT: Marvin Wilson FSU 6-5, 317 Jay Tufele* USC 6-3, 305 Tedarrell Slaton Florida 6-5, 343 Mustafa Johnson Colorado 6-2, 290 LaBryan Ray* Alabama 6-5, 292 Jaylen Twyman* Pitt 6-2, 290 Dom Peterson* Nevada 6-2, 295 Naquan Jones Michigan St 6-4, 339 Levi Onwuzurike Washington 6-3, 290 Nyles Pickney Clemson 6-1, 300 Brandon Pili USC 6-4, 325 LB: Dylan Moses Alabama 6-3, 233 ILB/OLB Micah Parsons* Penn State 6-3, 245 OLB/ILB Joe Tryon* Washington 6-5, 262 OLB/DE Chazz Surratt UNC 6-3, 230 OLB/ILB Merlin Robertson* Arizona State 6-3, 235 OLB Colin Schooler Arizona 6-1, 229 OLB/ILB Blake Gallagher Northwestern 6-1, 235 OLB/ILB Paddy Fisher Northwestern 6-4, 241 ILB/OLB Terrel Bernard* Baylor 6-1, 222 OLB Big Cat Bryant Auburn 6-5, 247 OLB Ale Kaho Alabama 6-1, 228 OLB/ILB Tuf Borland Ohio State 6-1, 232 ILB Ernest Jones* South Carolina 6-1, 235 ILB Mohamed Sanogo Ole Miss 6-2, 224 ILB Caleb Kelly Oklahoma 6-3, 229 ILB CB: Shaun Wade* Ohio State 6-1, 194 Patrick Surtain Jr* Alabama 6-2, 203 Paulson Adebo* Stanford 6-1, 190 Israel Mukuamu South Carolina 6-4, 205 Tyson Campbell Georgia 6-2, 185 Josh Jobe* Alabama 6-1, 189 Caleb Farley* VT 6-2, 207 Chase Lucas Arizona St 6-0, 175 Terry Dean III* Florida 6-3, 194 Jalyn Armour-Davis* Alabama 6-1, 182 Adrian Frye* Texas Tech 6-1, 195 Marco Wilson Florida 6-0, 177 Dicaprio Bootle Nebraska 5-10, 195 Mike Hampton USF 6-1, 190 Josh Thompson Texas 6-0, 200 Safety: Andre Cisco* Syracuse 6-0, 203 Richard LeCounte Georgia 5-11, 190 Caden Sterns* Texas 6-1, 205 Richie Grant UCF 6-0, 194 Donovan Stiner* Florida 6-1, 203 Jaewon Taylor Florida 6-1, 206 Aashari Crosswell Arizona State 6-0, 190 James Wiggins Cincinnati 6-0, 205 JR Pace Northwestern 6-1, 205 Prudy Calderon* Rice 5-11, 210 Talanoa Hufanga USC 6-1, 210 Edited May 8, 2020 by KDawg 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Oh dear god 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoggingGod Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Trey Lance should be in heavy consideration if we have to pick a QB. He's gonna be a star. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 I present you with Exhibit A: The best player in next year's draft. Yes, including Lawrence and Fields and anyone else. This guy is an absolute animal. 6-6, 325. He moves like a 260 pounder. He has active hands and feet. Plays with leverage at contact point, though he can find himself high at the snap he correct it with his strikes. His feet never, ever, ever stop moving. Once he gets a hold of a defender he sticks to them like glue. He passes assignments extremely well when they cross stunt or stick. His head is always on a swivel and he's extremely intelligent. He gets to the second level. His pass sets are clean. He makes Andrew Thomas look like a chew toy for a Great Dane. My current grade: Athleticism: 1.8 (in scale for linemen) Size: 2 Strength: 1.8 Technique: 1.8 Intelligence: 1.8 Total: 9.2 Expect my grading system to get tweaked and moved around a bit, too. Trying it for now. Will likely abandon it once I realize how hard it is to actually put that thing into practice and use it for each player and figure out a good way to scale the grades. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Alex Leatherwood. 6-6, 322. Alabama kid. He is almost the exact same size as Sewell, but he carries it a little different. Seems a bit more compact and stout than Sewell, even in his play style. He isn't as balanced as Sewell and loses his man a bit more often, but he recovers extremely well. He has a good mind to shuffle his feet on running plays as his back gets closer to the hole and he continues his wall technique. He is also an athletic football player who is absolutely battle tested. Climbs to the second level well, constantly is looking for work, has a killer one hand stab. He plays a little higher than Sewell does, but he did a great job against 1st round draft choice K'Lavon Chaisson in the LSU footage here. My Grade so far: Athleticism: 1.6 (in scale for linemen) Size: 2 Strength: 1.8 Technique: 1.7 Intelligence: 1.7 Total: 8.8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 LT (2019) in the above game, RT (2018) in the below. Samuel Cosmi. 6-6, 295. Improved significantly last season. Perhaps he's more comfortable on the left side. Active hands and feet and plays with great anticipation. He's lighter in the ass than the first two behemoths, but he's still a 6-6 road grader. He gets his hands on you and you're probably going for a fun little ride somewhere that you don't want to go as long as he remains engaged. He gets a touch lazy with his drive blocks at times, unlike the previous two LTs I've reviewed, where he doesn't block through the whistle and his guy comes off and makes a play, but that's a nit pick. Over the two seasons he clearly made a lot of positive steps, so it's not out of the realm of possibility for him to improve even further his senior season. One bad habit I saw more in the 2018 film, but once in awhile you see in any of the 2019 stuff he has up... he sometimes puts his head down and doesn't see what he hits. My Grade so far: Athleticism: 1.4 (in scale for linemen) Size: 1.85 Strength: 1.7 Technique: 1.5 Intelligence: 1.6 Total: 8.05 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofAlvinWalton Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 (edited) Nice try ****ers! I'll see you (in this thread) in 7-8 months. Now don't stay up to late kids. Edited April 26, 2020 by GhostofAlvinWalton 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 @KDawg needs a life. Already with a list of players for next year's draft? It would be one thing if you're getting paid, but wow. You and BB on BGO are way into it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 If we’re bad next season, Who do you guys think we’ll be in competition with to draft Trevor Lawrence? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 (edited) First game is 2019, second is 2018. LT in both. Walker Little. 6-7, 304. The immediate negative I notice, in both 2018 and 2019, is that he has a bad tendency to over anticipate defender pre snap burst and he oversets to them. In the 2018 film he wasn't as good at recovering, but in 2019 he looks much more fluid correcting that mistake and getting back to the block. There are also plays where he gives up way too much ground in pass protection because he plays extremely high. His footwork isn't nearly as refined as Leatherwood, Sewell or Cosmi. He stops his feet on contact at times. However, he has some good athleticism, size and strength. He has a lot of room for improvement going into this coming season, but his body of work is clear that he is a reliable OT. But I love how light on his feet he is. There is a goal line play against Northwestern where he feathers out left to pick up and outside rusher... and it's beautiful. He just has such quick feet. Getting those things continued movement and improving his pre-snap anticipation will go a very long way. My Grade so far: Athleticism: 1.75 (in scale for linemen) Size: 1.9 Strength: 1.7 Technique: 1.25 Intelligence: 1.5 Total: 8.1 10 minutes ago, China said: @KDawg needs a life. Already with a list of players for next year's draft? It would be one thing if you're getting paid, but wow. You and BB on BGO are way into it. Hi China. I coach football. I'm also in quarantine. Isn't there some Tailgate thread you can go to or something? And thank you. But I compiled that list a few months ago Edited April 26, 2020 by KDawg 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, KDawg said: Hi China. I coach football. I'm also in quarantine. Isn't there some Tailgate thread you can go to or something? And thank you. But I compiled that list a few months ago I know you do, and I appreciate your efforts. And who says I'm not doing Tailgate threads? You know I am. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drowland Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Next years OT class could be better then this years if Cosmi, Mays and Jalen Mayfield continue to improve. You could have another 6 in the 1st Rd. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, JoggingGod said: Trey Lance should be in heavy consideration if we have to pick a QB. He's gonna be a star. I’m not convinced he would come out so early. He’s an absolute monster and there’s only so much you can accomplish at the FCS level ... but would he come out as a RS-So and be the 3rd QB in the draft or stay another year and come out as a R-Jr in 2022 and be the sure fire #1 pick? FWIW Matt Miller is ALL over Lance. He loves him. Thinks he comes out next year. But R-So is early to come out. It’s one thing to be Dwayne haskins after leading OSU to 50 TDs and another as an FCS superstar. I think Miller has Lance above Fields Edited April 26, 2020 by JamesMadisonSkins 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, drowland said: Next years OT class could be better then this years if Cosmi, Mays and Jalen Mayfield continue to improve. You could have another 6 in the 1st Rd. Seems to be. I tested my OT rankings with Thomas, Wirfs and Wills. Thomas was around 8.4, Wills 8.25, Wirfs 8.1 So as of right now that puts them 3rd, 4th and 5th respectively with the current OT crop. Which seems right to me. So while I like where it’s ranking guys I have to figure out how the numbers jive with overalls and such. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volsmet Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 1 hour ago, JoggingGod said: Trey Lance should be in heavy consideration if we have to pick a QB. He's gonna be a star. He’s getting round 1 talk, top 10 talk. 11 minutes ago, drowland said: Next years OT class could be better then this years if Cosmi, Mays and Jalen Mayfield continue to improve. You could have another 6 in the 1st Rd. Mays is a guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar1156 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 2 hours ago, JamesMadisonSkins said: OTs should deliver again: OT Penei Sewell Oregon OT Walker Little Stanford OT Alex Leatherwood Alabama WR Jamar Chase PSU Linebacker OT Rasheed Walker - PSU Redshirt So. Kid is a stud. Def coming out early. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, volsmet said: Mays is a guard. Will he for Tennessee? I’ve read OT for them. Haven’t seen much other than what I’ve seen while watching this years’ Georgia contingent. So I trust your judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvarlo12000 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Malapropismic Depository said: Pencil in ? Trevor Lawrence will not give up that spot without a fight He doesn't go to tOSU though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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