No Excuses Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, TD_washingtonredskins said: OK. I just wonder if we could have targeted the "stay at home" orders more strategically. It could have resulted in more businesses staying open, fewer jobs being lost, and asking people to stay home if they fell ill. We still could have checked temps, etc. at businesses to limit the exposure to those with symptoms. The vast majority of Covid cases that end up in hospitals don’t display fevers. Temperature checks are a really ineffective strategy. Almost every credible study has shown that the live viral load is highest in people at the presymptomatic and early mild symptoms stage. Most of what you are prescribing wouldn’t work. What will work is preventing crowding in indoor spaces, not doing activities indoors that result in droplet formation (talking, singing etc) and mask wearing. This is the only strategy employed around the world that has shown to be effective. It also means that a lot of businesses (like restaurants) and services (like schools), can’t be reopened safely. Edited June 9, 2020 by No Excuses 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techboy Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, TD_washingtonredskins said: OK. I just wonder if we could have targeted the "stay at home" orders more strategically. It could have resulted in more businesses staying open, fewer jobs being lost, and asking people to stay home if they fell ill. We still could have checked temps, etc. at businesses to limit the exposure to those with symptoms. That is LITERALLY what Sweden tried. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/19/anger-in-sweden-as-elderly-pay-price-for-coronavirus-strategy ""This is our big problem area,” said Tegnell, the brains behind the government’s relatively light-touch strategy, which has seen it ask, rather than order, people to avoid non-essential travel, work from home and stay indoors if they are over 70 or are feeling ill." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said: Also probably illegal. https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2014-243 I have a childhood friend who lost his FINRA license and is lucky he didnt go to jail for boosting a penny stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PleaseBlitz Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/08/14-states-puerto-rico-hit-their-highest-seven-day-average-new-covid-19-infections-since-june/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_newinfections-825pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans&itid=hp_rhp__hp-top-table-main_newinfections-825pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans Quote As rates of coronavirus infections ease in places such as New York and Illinois and onetime hot spots move into new phases of reopening, parts of the country that had previously avoided being hit hard by the outbreak are now tallying record-high new infections. Since the start of June, 14 states and Puerto Rico have recorded their highest-ever seven-day average of new coronavirus cases since the pandemic began, according to data tracked by The Washington Post: Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Florida, Kentucky, New Mexico, North Carolina, Mississippi, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and Utah. If the pandemic’s first wave burned through dense metro hubs such as New York City, Chicago and Detroit, the highest percentages of new cases are coming from places with much smaller populations: Lincoln County, Ore., an area of less than 50,000, has averaged 20 new daily cases; the Bear River Health District in northern Utah has averaged 78 new cases a day in the past week, most of them tied to an outbreak at a meat processing plant in the small town of Hyrum. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Dr. Gottlieb is also on MSNBC on a daily basis, and the reason I'm still isolating except when I go to work, and I'm fine with us not opening the dining room yet. This thing is waaaaay far from over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TradeTheBeal! Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, skinsmarydu said: Dr. Gottlieb is also on MSNBC on a daily basis, and the reason I'm still isolating except when I go to work, and I'm fine with us not opening the dining room yet. This thing is waaaaay far from over. He shows up on CNBC a lot too. Dude is rock solid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 And so on. If the parking lots of the 3 in town here are any indication.they're in about the same shape. Sigh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 When is national harbor gonna open... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Larry Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Gotta get everybody on message. Get their cover stories straight. (This may be the first time the Trump administration actually got their message straight. Dare I call that competence?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFan44 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 The protests are simultaneously the cause of the spike in cases and the reason Trump can start having rallies again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hooper Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) We gave up basically. I get it — people are exhausted, going crazy and/or broke. But just because we all want this to be over doesn’t mean it is. As a country, we blew it I think by not coming up with a real testing and contact tracing plan. Hope I’m wrong. Edited June 11, 2020 by Hooper 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 43 minutes ago, Hooper said: We gave up basically. I get it — people are exhausted, going crazy and/or broke. But just because we all want this to be over doesn’t mean it is. As a country, we blew it I think by not coming up with a real testing and contact tracing plan. Hope I’m wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) Well done, Kingpin Edited June 11, 2020 by Mr. Sinister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbear Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Hooper, I agree whole heartedly, though perhaps "sad heartedly" is more descriptive. We are dealing with all kinds of emotional responses from our kids, especially our youngest. We are tired too, and explaining to your kids why they can't do what their friends are doing is not fun. Doing so when the kids already feel left out or different sucks. However, I also get angry because the less people socially distance themselves, the longer my family and I have to socially isolate. They both make our time longer and less pleasant. The motto of alone together loses much of the together... BTW, I saw the/a main writer for This Is Us died. I wonder if it was COVID. I believe she was under 40. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hooper said: We gave up basically. I get it — people are exhausted, going crazy and/or broke. But just because we all want this to be over doesn’t mean it is. As a country, we blew it I think by not coming up with a real testing and contact tracing plan. Hope I’m wrong. I think the country became more comfortable with the risk based on the reasons you posted above...staying in our homes for months on end is not a sustainable way of living. We knew this strategy was going to have a shelf-life. Edit: I'll add...it was never meant to be something we did in perpetuity. Edited June 11, 2020 by TD_washingtonredskins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoCommiesGo Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, TD_washingtonredskins said: I think the country became more comfortable with the risk based on the reasons you posted above...staying in our homes for months on end is not a sustainable way of living. We knew this strategy was going to have a shelf-life. Edit: I'll add...it was never meant to be something we did in perpetuity. I think everyone knew it had a shelf life, my biggest issue is the lack of cohesive strategy across the country. You can't shut the economy down forever and you can't force everything to close. But you could have a national strategy and guidelines. I believe that would have made everyone more comfortable moving forward. But, that's just my opinion. -Edit- I mean we don't even a have a national standard for recording the dead. You have states that appear to be dumping COVID deaths into the pneumonia category, that should never happen. Edited June 11, 2020 by GoSkinsGo 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, GoSkinsGo said: I think everyone knew it had a shelf life, my biggest issue is the lack of cohesive strategy across the country. You can't shut the economy down forever and you can't force everything to close. But you could have a national strategy and guidelines. I believe that would have made everyone more comfortable moving forward. But, that's just my opinion. -Edit- I mean we don't even a have a national standard for recording the dead. You have states that appear to be dumping COVID deaths into the pneumonia category, that should never happen. We can leave all small businesses open. Not sure why we need to close those down too. Basically its big workcenters, factories, stadiums and other large places of tight gatherings that need to be stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 We have the procedures, the strategies, stockpiles of supplies, and the CDC. They're all worthless if no one in charge can implement them or coordinate it nationally. They're also all worthless when we just divert all the money away during the next emergency or crisis. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Mooka said: We have the procedures, the strategies, stockpiles of supplies, and the CDC. They're all worthless if no one in charge can implement them or coordinate it nationally. They're also all worthless when we just divert all the money away during the next emergency or crisis. Doesn't help when you have a reality TV star in the White House. I'm sorry if this doesn't teach America that we need a career politician in the highest office. You may not agree with the person in office but they know how govt works. Trump doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoCommiesGo Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 21 minutes ago, skinfan2k said: We can leave all small businesses open. Not sure why we need to close those down too. Basically its big workcenters, factories, stadiums and other large places of tight gatherings that need to be stopped. I don't disagree with the initial closure of all things. If you leave certain facilities open they would become congregation points and possibly lead to increased spread. Everyone understood there was going to be a pain point for a lot of people. The lack of cohesive planning is the killer IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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