88Comrade2000 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 13 hours ago, Voice_of_Reason said: You can’t have Peyton as a coach until he’s coached somewhere before. Wouldn't you say the same thing about him being a GM. I think Peyton will end up with the Titans one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Did I miss news that we canned Bruce and hired a real GM and that's why we're still talking about possible coaches?! (This is my reminder that we need to, as a fanbase, keep laser focused on removing the second biggest problem before we worry about the HC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexa Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Manning would be a pure politics hire. Don't want him. When has he ever ran a front office? Never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFi Skins Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Just now, Alexa said: Manning would be a pure politics hire. Don't want him. When has he ever ran a front office? Never. How does one run a front office... if they're never given the chance? Interesting concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 10 hours ago, Rdskns2000 said: Wouldn't you say the same thing about him being a GM. I think Peyton will end up with the Titans one day. No. FO is different. Though I would pare Peyton up with an experienced exec who has experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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veteranskinsfan Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 On 10/2/2019 at 10:51 PM, kingdaddy said: If Jay is fired next week I'm very curious to see what Dan says and who from the media will have the balls to ask him how Bruce is still here? We need the nedia to step up and hammer Dan. If its Bruce who takes the questions he needs to be hammered just as much. Its gotta be the local guys or ladies that do it. Maybe one off the former players? I bet they will have Doug Williams do the press conference so the Prince of Darkness and the owner can remain hidden from public scrutiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I'm curious as to why our HC absolutely HAS to be offensive minded. I'd rather it be more of manager-type coach with a special teams background that will delegate to a decent staff and speak at all levels of this team, and not be knee deep in just one area. We need a guy that's going to get this team playing organized, disciplined ball and whip it into shape. Not saying I'm steadfast against it, but the endless parade of offense HC's has not worked here. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss_Hogg Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Whoever it is I don't want Bruce Allen or Dan Snyder picking the next coach. But it looks like Bruce is bullet proof which means we should all just bail. There's no hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said: I'm curious as to why our HC absolutely HAS to be offensive minded. I'd rather it be more of manager-type coach with a special teams background that will delegate to a decent staff and speak at all levels of this team, and not be knee deep in just one area. We need a guy that's going to get this team playing organized, disciplined ball and whip it into shape. Not saying I'm steadfast against it, but the endless parade of offense HC's has not worked here. Period. I'd like the type of coach you're mentioning... or a defensive minded coach. They tend to be more... aggressive. So if they're saddled with Allen they will make a scene. Hell, if Allen is here give me Rex Ryan so we can watch it burn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Bruce should hire his brother George. George Allen 2 here we come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFi Skins Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, KDawg said: I'd like the type of coach you're mentioning... or a defensive minded coach. They tend to be more... aggressive. So if they're saddled with Allen they will make a scene. Hell, if Allen is here give me Rex Ryan so we can watch it burn. Rex is an easy sell, just tell him the cheerleaders walk around barefoot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexa Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 49 minutes ago, veteranskinsfan said: I bet they will have Doug Williams do the press conference so the Prince of Darkness and the owner can remain hidden from public scrutiny. There is no way that slime ball Allen will come out and talk. If he does he won't take any questions. Dan and Bruce are cowards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Alexa said: There is no way that slime ball Allen will come out and talk. If he does he won't take any questions. Dan and Bruce are cowards. I actually think this is a huge reason Jay won’t be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho fan Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Dan should just make Bruce the Head Coach and get it over with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 16 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said: I actually think this is a huge reason Jay won’t be fired. Maybe they could promote Jay to Tony Willie's job??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, Idaho fan said: Dan should just make Bruce the Head Coach and get it over with. Then there would be nobody to blame. Just now, Wildbunny said: Maybe they could promote Jay to Tony Willie's job??? Only with the Skins could SVP of communications be a promotion from head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drowland Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said: And I'm sure Andy Reid would tell him to stay away from the Redskins. Besides I see Bienemy ending up in Atlanta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerm Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 52 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said: I actually think this is a huge reason Jay won’t be fired. Considering how dysfunctional the coach-front office relationship seems to be, I think the only reason the Redskins would keep Jay for the rest of the season is if Dan and Bruce think that Jay is trying to force them to fire him. If they think Jay wants out, they may refuse to let him out. Otherwise, I think he gets fired next week if the Redskins don't look competitive against the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbias Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Did a bit of data diving for another thread, but it's actually more applicable here. This is all the coaches and their records while Snyder has owned the team: Jay Gruden - 35 wins, 48 losses, 1 tie = winning 42% Shanahan - 24 wins, 40 losses = winning 38% Zorn = 12 wins, 20 losses = winning 38% Gibbs = 30 wins, 34 losses = winning 47% Spurrier = 12 wins, 20 losses = winning 38% Schottenheimer = 8 wins, 8 losses = winning 50% Turner/Robiskie = 18 wins, 14 losses = winning 56% So, here's the awards we can give out: Most winningest coach = Jay Gruden with 35.5 Highest percentage winning coach = Turner/Robiskie by a healthy bit at 56%. Technically this was all Turner because Robiskie was 1-2, so technically Turner as the Redskins head coach is 17-12 with a 58.6 winning percentage. There you have it. Under Snyder statistically those are the best coaches we've had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chdream Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 IF you like Jay Gruden as a coach, you are alone................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Listen, we all know baring a miracle; Bruce will be still be here. Bruce will find a more pliable puppet. Said coach will ruin Haskins and in 2022; Dan will finally can Bruce.The next coach will be Jim Zorn 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbias Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 3 hours ago, chdream said: IF you like Jay Gruden as a coach, you are alone................ I'll be happy when Jay is gone, but I also realize changing coaches won't help much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 6 hours ago, Mr. Sinister said: I'm curious as to why our HC absolutely HAS to be offensive minded. I'd rather it be more of manager-type coach with a special teams background that will delegate to a decent staff and speak at all levels of this team, and not be knee deep in just one area. We need a guy that's going to get this team playing organized, disciplined ball and whip it into shape. Not saying I'm steadfast against it, but the endless parade of offense HC's has not worked here. Period. For me, it's because if the HC is the genius behind your offense (who preferably has a mind-meld with your stud franchise QB) no one can hire him away. A brilliant OC is for sure getting stolen by a team who wants what you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 5 hours ago, Idaho fan said: Dan should just make Bruce the Head Coach and get it over with. He keeps expanding his role it seems every year, that might be the next promotion for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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