TradeTheBeal! Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 29 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: Preach.🙏 Where John Lewis goes, I will follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Will believe when I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 "Imply" that she favors impeachment? WTF does that mean? 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted September 24, 2019 Author Share Posted September 24, 2019 Impeachment is the only way you make sure that no Republican is able to absolve themselves of blame in the coming years when Trump inevitably is looked at as the worst politician in modern history. Because just like Paul Ryan and the ilk who departed this sinking ship, a lot of these people are going to pretend that they did their best and super duper resisted Trump and his abuse of power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 My prediction is the the House will impeach the president and then eff it up by muddying the waters with the Mueller probe data (They should keep it simple and just use the Ukrainian scandal). Senate won't (and really can't) convict, as it would destroy the Republican party. Possibly (depending on how bad the House effs it up) a few to a handful of Republican Senators will vote to convict (Romney and ?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh8686 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 If they do announce impeachment proceedings today it will be after the 4pm Dem Caucus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted September 24, 2019 Author Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Fresh8686 said: If they do announce impeachment proceedings today it will be after the 4pm Dem Caucus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 22 minutes ago, nonniey said: My prediction is the the House will impeach the president and then eff it up by muddying the waters with the Mueller probe data (They should keep it simple and just use the Ukrainian scandal). Senate won't (and really can't) convict, as it would destroy the Republican party. Possibly (depending on how bad the House effs it up) a few to a handful of Republican Senators will vote to convict (Romney and ?). This is the straw that broke the camels back but there should be multiple articles of impeachment filed for Ukraine, obstruction of justice, emoluments and all the other bull**** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: This is the straw that broke the camels back but there should be multiple articles of impeachment filed for Ukraine, obstruction of justice, emoluments and all the other bull**** Like I said I predict the house will follow your plan and muddy up the waters maybe even enough help him get reelected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mammajamma Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, nonniey said: Like I said I predict the house will follow your plan and muddy up the waters maybe even enough help him get reelected. Not sure how presenting more evidence of him breaking the law helps him get re-elected. That's an odd way to look at it The problem isn't more evidence, its how dems have chosen to VERY weakly present the evidence so far. Impeachment investigation should help with that. They just need to present it the right way, like here's the 30 ways the president has broken the law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, mammajamma said: Not sure how presenting more evidence of him breaking the law helps him get re-elected. That's an odd way to look at it The problem isn't more evidence, its how dems have chosen to VERY weakly present the evidence so far. Impeachment investigation should help with that. They just need to present it the right way, like here's the 30 ways the president has broken the law If you present weak evidence (and the Muller investigation is very weak sauce) it will undermine strong evidence - ie muddy the waters. Frankly I'm pretty sure the conduct of the last couple of years by the resistance and the Dems will act as an inoculation that protects the President somewhat from his own stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry.Randolphe Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Dude is losing his **** right now because he knows how bad this is Very legal & very cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 An interesting counter punch. But we must remember, reports on the whistleblower complaint state it was across a number of calls. My guess is that this one specific call is sufficiently sanitized that they think they can blunt attacks if they release it. Meanwhile, the complaint, along witb State department communications and communications to Rudy are important to get too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mammajamma Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, nonniey said: If you present weak evidence (and the Muller investigation is very weak sauce) it will undermine strong evidence - ie muddy the waters. Frankly I'm pretty sure the conduct of the last couple of years by the resistance and the Dems will act as an inoculation that protects the President somewhat from his own stupidity. the mueller report was not weak evidence at all. he basically said that he broke the law but can't indict a sitting president. how it was presented was very weak, but there is a lot of strong evidence in there to impeach a president Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 34 minutes ago, mammajamma said: the mueller report was not weak evidence at all. he basically said that he broke the law but can't indict a sitting president. how it was presented was very weak, but there is a lot of strong evidence in there to impeach a president That is wishful thinking. But like I said pretty sure the Dems are going to eff this up by doing exactly what many of your think is a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 42 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: Thank you Kanye, very cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmsy Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 I'm all for impeachment, but I don't see how this Ukraine scandal is the last straw...unless I've become immune to the Trump administration's corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 hour ago, nonniey said: it would destroy the Republican party. Too late for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Chances are Trump's team is releasing a random call. It has already been stated that the whistleblower is referring to things heard over a number of calls, but sure, go ahead and believe Trump is actually releasing transcripts of everything he said on this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 19 minutes ago, nonniey said: That is wishful thinking. But like I said pretty sure the Dems are going to eff this up by doing exactly what many of your think is a good idea. If it gets effed up, it will be because half the country is dumber than ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: Yup. This is the problem with basing something off what Trump says. As for Ukraine, Trump can say he withheld or didnt withhold for any reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 And when the select committee calls for testimony and documents, if not produced, these people need to be held in Contempt of Congress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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