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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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The Impeachment Thread

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  1. 1. Should Donald Trump be impeached for obstruction of justice?



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I am not sure if all other witnesses will act like Lewandowski, but it was clear that he went into the hearing yesterday knowing he had Trump's backing when it came to any kind of legal fallout for his stonewalling.  Lewandowski had no fear of stonewalling, not answering anything he didn't feel like answering, and outright lying during his testimony. I believe the option of holding him in contempt for all of that came up exactly once, and Nadler said "I'll take it under advisement."

 

If that is how the rest of the hearing will go with the other witnesses, then it is just a big waste of time.

 

Look, we all know that as things escalate, Barr will do everything in his power to permit all of this, not to mention pardons will come their ways very  likely if they are charged with anything.  However.....SO WHAT?   Force their hand on this stuff, so it all goes on the record in front of the public that Trump & Barr are working in unison to prevent information from the public.   Expose their obstruction and force them to perform it out in the open.  As it stands now the Dems are merely trying to go about this by shaming people who have no shame about what they have done and continue to do. That isn't going to work.

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53 minutes ago, NoCalMike said:

I am not sure if all other witnesses will act like Lewandowski, but it was clear that he went into the hearing yesterday knowing he had Trump's backing when it came to any kind of legal fallout for his stonewalling.  Lewandowski had no fear of stonewalling, not answering anything he didn't feel like answering, and outright lying during his testimony. I believe the option of holding him in contempt for all of that came up exactly once, and Nadler said "I'll take it under advisement."

 

If that is how the rest of the hearing will go with the other witnesses, then it is just a big waste of time.

 

Look, we all know that as things escalate, Barr will do everything in his power to permit all of this, not to mention pardons will come their ways very  likely if they are charged with anything.  However.....SO WHAT?   Force their hand on this stuff, so it all goes on the record in front of the public that Trump & Barr are working in unison to prevent information from the public.   Expose their obstruction and force them to perform it out in the open.  As it stands now the Dems are merely trying to go about this by shaming people who have no shame about what they have done and continue to do. That isn't going to work.

Well the whole fact that Trump is telling people to disregard congressional subpoenas during an investigation into Trump, is in itself an impeachable offense... You can't pardon people for breaking the law when it comes to investigations into yourself. We've been over this already ha

 

My hope is that maybe that was the whole point of this testimony in the 1st place.. to add to a huge book of impeachable offenses theyre going to drop as one album

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Well part of the problem with this process dragging out is that it is likely going to run into the general election season.  Then the Dems will be even more conflicted on how to proceed.  They took their feet off the gas pedal, and it may be too late to salvage it, unless the bigger plan is to impeach Trump into a hypothetical 2nd term.  Or expose enough evidence to go after private citizen Trump should he lose in 2020.

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Refusing to fulfill your elected oath because you're afraid for your job means you truly do not understand this form of government at all.

Impeach all of them.
Cowards and thieves.
America, baby.

 

~Bang

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15 minutes ago, NoCalMike said:

Well part of the problem with this process dragging out is that it is likely going to run into the general election season.  Then the Dems will be even more conflicted on how to proceed.  They took their feet off the gas pedal, and it may be too late to salvage it, unless the bigger plan is to impeach Trump into a hypothetical 2nd term.  Or expose enough evidence to go after private citizen Trump should he lose in 2020.

 

There is no master plan at work here. The old vanguard of the Democratic Party is full of spineless losers. Republicans have been giving them wedgies and swirlies for at least four decades and it seems to have taken some kind of a psychological toll.

 

There is no will to fight, fair or dirty, and if you can't make the case for corruption against Donald F'ing Trump, then it's worth asking why you deserve anyone's votes.

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40 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said:

Elections have consequences. 

 

Apparently electing Democrats in historic numbers didn't.  

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Keeping in mind who the democrats are targeting, and who they’re not; they’re interested in anyone that isn’t a trump supporter... (we’ve all written them off as a lost cause)

 

The dems have painted themselves into a weird corner where their call to action for a general election is basically:

 

you, general public, must vote for us because the republicans, and Trump specifically, are corrupt and incompetent and dangerous for the country. So you must vote for us, the group that has power to do something about it now but doesn’t have the collective stones to actually do it. So it’s on you, general public, to vote for us, the group that won’t do anything even though we could. 

 

It’s not really a good call to action. 

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Impeachment would be a disaster.

 

Trump and the GOP will just drag the country through a ridiculous spectacle that will fire up their base for 2020. 

 

The left has no ability to sell impeachment to the country or counter the right's propaganda.

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3 minutes ago, Mooka said:

Trump and the GOP will just drag the country through a ridiculous spectacle that will fire up their base for 2020.

 

As opposed to the way they're being so contrite and responsible, now.  

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7 minutes ago, Mooka said:

Impeachment would be a disaster.

 

Trump and the GOP will just drag the country through a ridiculous spectacle that will fire up their base for 2020. 

 

The left has no ability to sell impeachment to the country or counter the right's propaganda.

The spectacle is gonna have to happen at some point.  If the Dems win the election he's

not just gonna concede.  He will fight it in court claim voter fraud and try to get it in front of his stacked supreme court.  That will be the test will the court do what's right or what they were put there to do??   

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1 hour ago, Larry said:

 

Apparently electing Democrats in historic numbers didn't.  

 

It allowed them to make more noise.

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1 hour ago, Mooka said:

Impeachment would be a disaster.

 

Trump and the GOP will just drag the country through a ridiculous spectacle that will fire up their base for 2020. 

 

The left has no ability to sell impeachment to the country or counter the right's propaganda.

 

Thats probably true. 

 

Either way I think they need to get on the same page and proceed. It isn’t a good look now, but honestly not sure now matter. How they look end of next summer probably does. 

 

 

1 hour ago, HOF44 said:

The spectacle is gonna have to happen at some point.  If the Dems win the election he's

not just gonna concede.  He will fight it in court claim voter fraud and try to get it in front of his stacked supreme court.  That will be the test will the court do what's right or what they were put there to do??   

 

Alternative theory I’ve been mulling:

he’ll happily leave and for the next however many years go on tv and tweet using the convenient excuse of: you didn’t give me time to see the policies through, and that’s why things are all messed up

 

but so far my theories on trump have been

he’ll quit cause he doesn’t want the job

republicans will join in impeaching him because they don’t want him and would rather have pence

 

so I’m probably wrong again. 

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Trump may refuse to leave office. At noon on Jan. 20, 2021 or 2025; the new president takes the oath. Trump can't stop that.  The new president will then give the order to forcibly remove Trump from the White House. 

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