OVCChairman Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said: Injury ? Do you mean the Guice arrest ? Not sure which injury you refer to. I think he was a lock before the Guice arrest. I don't see a team giving up that quickly on a Back who was arguably the #1 college RB in the nation...that recently. And who showed so much promise, both as a runner and receiver out of the backfield. I think they would have determined to find a way to keep him. Remember...unlike Guice, Love had no setbacks of any kind, since we drafted him. Didnt Love have to have his knee cleaned up last year? I dont know that he's a lock if Guice doesn't get arrested. Rivera brought in Barber and McKissic, then drafted Gibson. Barber was likely insurance behind Guice and Peterson, and McKissic would have been the 3rd down pass catcher that we didnt have on the roster. Barber and Love could have easily been parted with, or Love placed on PUP depending on his injury status. The lack of preseason and offseason leave's a giant question mark above his head regarding his ability to play when the lights come on, and his ability to remain healthy. I imagine that Love is on the active roster now with Guice being gone, Harmon getting hurt, and Lattimer possibly facing suspension. Gibson probably becomes more of a 'gadget' guy who can play multiple positions so carrying 5 RBs and 5 WRs is more likely. If Guice was here, and Harmon is healthy... I see us carrying 5 Wrs (McLaurin, Sims, Harmon, AGG, Insert any other 'jag' you want here) and 5 RBs (Guice, Peterson, Barber, McKissic, Gibson). If Love is 100% healthy, he COULD have beat out Barber but I would wonder if Rivera would go with the 'proven' guy over the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, OVCChairman said: Didnt Love have to have his knee cleaned up last year? I don't know that you could consider that as a "setback" That procedure was related to his previous injury, which would be very different than if he had re-injured himself. I actually see that procedure as a good sign, to ensure his college injury completely recovers. Also, having this additional surgery was previously known to be likely, so it was no surprise at all, to those familiar with the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVCChairman Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said: I don't know that you could consider that as a "setback" That procedure was related to his previous injury, which would be very different than if he had re-injured himself. I actually see that procedure as a good sign, to ensure his college injury completely recovers. Also, having this additional surgery was previously known to be likely, so it was no surprise at all, to those familiar with the situation. Yeah i went back and looked... sorry, I for some reason had it in my head that it was more invasive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Green Fan Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 19 hours ago, Malapropismic Depository said: Injury ? Do you mean the Guice arrest ? Not sure which injury you refer to. I think he was a lock before the Guice arrest. I don't see a team giving up that quickly on a Back who was arguably the #1 college RB in the nation...that recently. And who showed so much promise, both as a runner and receiver out of the backfield. I think they would have determined to find a way to keep him. Remember...unlike Guice, Love had no setbacks of any kind, since we drafted him. Yeah sorry I meant after the release of Guice. With such a crowded backfield I heard more than one person say Love may be on the bubble. I always thought that was kind of crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Apparently, 2 women accuse Guice of raping them while at LSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Rdskns2000 said: Apparently, 2 women accuse Guice of raping them while at LSU. Didn't Jay and Bruce say they did due diligence and were comfortable? Ugh. Also, can we remove this thread from the Stadium? I seriously doubt he's an NFL player anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 It's becoming very clear that this guy is a sociopath, but his BS has been swept under the rug because of his skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 30 minutes ago, Alcoholic Zebra said: Didn't Jay and Bruce say they did due diligence and were comfortable? Ugh. Well, when two pieces of **** "investigate" another piece of ****, they don't notice the smell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 5 hours ago, spjunkies said: It's becoming very clear that this guy is a sociopath, but his BS has been swept under the rug because of his skills. Says the team had investigators finding this **** out during a 3 hr zoom conference with at least one of the women on the day they cut him (or the day before, can't remember). Also said one of the women accusing Guice of rape was dating another player on the football team, and the head coach told the guy in response to the accusation of rape that “Everybody’s girlfriend sleeps with other people.” Jeebus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 The USA today article mentioned one of the women who is accusing Guice was a Tennis player, who's own (female) Tennis coach said she, "didn't believe her". The accuser apparently abused drugs and alcohol at the time of the alleged incident, which may have undermined her credibility as a witness, so I wonder if this played a role in LSU trying to sweep it under the rug. Pretty sad situation all around. Either way, it just re-affirms the club's correct decision to release the guy and get him the hell away from the organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 24 minutes ago, ExoDus84 said: The USA today article mentioned one of the women who is accusing Guice was a Tennis player, who's own (female) Tennis coach said she, "didn't believe her". The accuser apparently abused drugs and alcohol at the time of the alleged incident, which may have undermined her credibility as a witness, so I wonder if this played a role in LSU trying to sweep it under the rug. Pretty sad situation all around. Either way, it just re-affirms the club's correct decision to release the guy and get him the hell away from the organization. It's usually pretty damning when it's two accusations, despite any extenuating circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Who's Derrius Guice ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchetwound Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 6 hours ago, Alcoholic Zebra said: Didn't Jay and Bruce say they did due diligence and were comfortable? Ugh. I was told there were no charachter issues, that he was young and of course a little immature, but just a fun loving kid who just loves football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anselmheifer Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 25 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: It's usually pretty damning when it's two accusations, despite any extenuating circumstances. This. He’s not some super nice guy that was randomly/falsely accused of rape twice. Then falsely accused of choking a woman unconscious. That’s not a thing. Fool me once... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, ExoDus84 said: Either way, it just re-affirms the club's correct decision to release the guy and get him the hell away from the organization. Even if he wasn’t cut, dude would be in jail before he suited up ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander -JB- Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Hindsight is 20/20 and you don’t want to be labeled a guy who stereotypes people, especially since we are in the age of everybody being hyper sensitive. But, cmon, Guice looks like a creep lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Sounds like Guice did it TBH. And it sounds like he had a reputation for violence that obviously should have been a big red flag for us, and it casts that alleged incident at the combine where he almost got in a fight with an Eagles official during his interview in a new and credible light. That is trainwreck level entitlement and instability. Looks like we swept his flags under the rug instead, and we eventually got what was coming to us. Guice is done. He should never get to play NFL football again and he needs to do time. The most explosive allegation in that article by far is the one about Ed Orgeron. That he knew what Guice had done, did nothing, and made that comment about everybody's girlfriends sleeping around. If true, that's the kind of **** that could get him fired and get that program sanctioned. Especially if it comes out that there were a lot of other players getting their crimes swept under the rug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Edit: changed my mind...stopped being funny about 23 seconds after I posted it lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 I never figured he was a serial abuser but from day one, I realized he was INCREDIBLY immature and child like. From the attention seeking on social media to the pre draft stuff, i immediately soured on him after being really excited initially. now it all makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoshuaj Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 The longest running non Team player related thread ever in the Stadium. This **** will never die. Lol (and yes, I’m fully aware that I just bumped it to the top) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakedtater1 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, stoshuaj said: The longest running non Team player related thread ever in the Stadium. This **** will never die. Lol (and yes, I’m fully aware that I just bumped it to the top) I was just coming in to say what the **** are we still talking about this douche bag for?..lol speaking of douche bag...i watched sausage fest or party or whatever that cartoon is last night lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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