CousinsCowgirl84 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Riggo-toni said: I've often stated "Show me a Christian who insists on a literal reading of the Bible, and I will show you someone who has never read the Old Testament." When people talk about the Bible insisting on putting homosexuals to death or some other crazy ****, I like to pose the following: Here are 4 acts described in the Bible, and 4 punishments. Can you match the punishment with the sin? Cursing one's father or mother. A woman stops a fight between two men by hitting or grabbing one of the men by the testicles. Lesbians aka "women who lie with women" Kicking a pregnant woman in the stomach so that she miscarries (primitive version of abortion, apparently) Here are the punishments in order of severity (least to worst) Not allowed to serve as an archer in the army Pay a fine Have a hand cut off Put to death well, don’t leave us hanging.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 10 hours ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: well, don’t leave us hanging.... Lesbians can't serve as archers. Otherwise, there is no condemnation of lesbianism whatsoever in the Old Testament. While killing a person results in the death penalty, killing a fetus merely results in a fine. If a woman tries to stop a fight by grabbing one of the man's nads, her hand is to be cut off and no one is allowed to feel bad for it. And if you curse your parents, they are allowed to kill you. @GhostofSpartagot them all correctly. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Makes sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/11/2021 at 11:06 PM, Cooked Crack said: <br /> The good news about the 'Muricun Taliban takeover is their infallibility. The country will have nothing to worry about with these folks seeing the future and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/11/2021 at 5:35 PM, dyst said: I’ve always been a believer that the religion itself it usually fine, it’s the followers who cloud it. at this point in terms of our species' cognitive development, for all the 'upside' that arguably exceeds the 'downside' of what the major religions bring to the table via their individual dogma and social footprint, they remain fundamentally and fatally flawed constructs that will not survive in their current forms if we survive long enough take heart---our current peak of development as internet posters is not the last stage if we're lucky 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) Send those Christians who want the American version of Iran; to Iran. I say kick out Texas and they can have their Christian paradise there. Edited July 14, 2021 by Rdskns2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbear Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Funny thing is before the revolution, Iran had the largest group of Christians in the Middle East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 How evangelicals abandoned Christianity — and became "conservatives" instead As a pastor I was always uncomfortable using God's word to pressure people to give money to the church. It seemed like a dirty trick: Play on the fear of disappointing God by convincing people on fixed incomes to provide for my livelihood. So I never did, much to the chagrin of my board of trustees. For the past 70 years, however, evangelical leadership has used this fear of God to raise billions of dollars to fight those the evangelicals have deemed to be the enemies of God. This naturally requires a private jet, a television network, a super PAC and a con artist pastor and politician to lead the way. The first set of enemies were of course the feminists, the pro-choice advocates and the LGBTQ community. Jerry Falwell Sr. said in 1980, "We must stand against the Equal Rights Amendment, the feminist revolution and the homosexual revolution." From that point forward, the blueprint to effect political change for God — and to raise money for that cherished cause — was created. God's call was clear, or so the congregations were told, and the enemies were equally clear. The evangelical movement was born and money started flowing to numerous evangelical organizations. Politicians used evangelical language to win elections, and the God vote became more and more aligned with the Republican Party. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 A great lead in for the article below. My apologies for the super short intro. I couldn't copy and paste and I'm way to lazy to transcribe two or three paragraphs. Christianity is collapsing Sociologists are amazed by the swift disintegration of Christianity in America. It's a stunning cultural transformation, confirmed by... https://www.patheos.com/blogs/freethoughtnow/christianity-is-collapsing/ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 I don't think Trump changed anything in this regard as much as he has given a bigger forum to the "Christianity through a conservative lens" crowd. I think the bi-product of folks leaving religion (or at least taking a more euro-centric approach to it) is that those remaining are going to be the fanatics and that is who conservatives cater to as part of their base because they need them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 3 hours ago, Cooked Crack said: "I"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Editorial: Calling out so-called 'prophets' who miscalled Trump's election victory By the Editorial Board Jul 24, 2021 39 Evangelical groups are calling their own preachers to task for a spate of so-called prophecies — nearly all in support of far-right political causes and former President Donald Trump — that never came to pass. Prominent pastors are wisely urging their colleagues to commit to standards of prophecy that reject the mixing of personal political beliefs with what they claim to be divine inspiration. Editorially, we try to avoid opining about religious faith. But invoking divine guidance to advance partisan causes smacks of the worst kind of manipulation, opening the door to abuse and financial exploitation. Pentecostal and charismatic Christian leaders have laudably begun insisting that the false prophets among them cease and desist. “Why were most of the prophets wrong when it came to predicting the outcome of the 2020 election?” host Jan Markell, founder of Olive Tree Ministries, asked on her “Understanding the Times” Christian radio show on June 25. She followed that question with a lengthy series of pre-election recordings in which a variety of prominent evangelical preachers claimed that God had told them Trump would be reelected. All it takes is a cheap website or a YouTube posting for charlatans to gain a global following. One Pinckneyville, Illinois, preacher who claims followers across North and South America posted a YouTube “prophecy” in May declaring that Trump would be reinstalled in the White House on July 4. It was, of course, nonsense. But such quackery also can be deadly dangerous, such as when many protesters, claiming divine inspiration, joined in storming the Capitol on Jan. 6. “Jericho March” cofounder Rob Weaver was among the preachers who claimed divine guidance in directing followers toward Capitol Hill. The propheticstandards.com website urges such preachers to change their ways: “We recognize the unique challenges posed by the internet and social media, as anyone claiming to be a prophet can release a word to the general public without any accountability or even responsibility.” Click on the link for the rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Oh yeah, we just want those legit prophets, yanno? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 What a shyster. How long before he ends up in jail again? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 43 minutes ago, China said: What a shyster. How long before he ends up in jail again? "The mortgage. Put it on there; we're having houses paid off this week, last month and this month." Yeah, your mortgages. Paid for by selling $1,000 blankets to the gullible faithful. These are just such awful people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86 Snyder Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, China said: What a shyster. How long before he ends up in jail again? if the 10 commandments were real, this is the type of act "Thou shalt not take the Lord's name in vain" would have been referring to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Most adult US Christians don't believe Holy Spirit is real: study Of an estimated 176 million American adults who identify as Christian, just 6% or 15 million of them actually hold a biblical worldview, a new study from Arizona Christian University shows. The finding was published by the Cultural Research Center of Arizona Christian University in its recently released American Worldview Inventory, an annual survey that evaluates the worldview of the U.S. adult population. Conducted in February, the survey included a nationally representative sample of 2,000 adults. The study shows, in general, that while a majority of America’s self-identified Christians, including many who identify as evangelical, believe that God is all-powerful, all-knowing and is the Creator of the universe, more than half reject a number of biblical teachings and principles, including the existence of the Holy Spirit. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 12th Commandment Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 On 8/12/2021 at 4:01 PM, 86 Snyder said: if the 10 commandments were real, this is the type of act "Thou shalt not take the Lord's name in vain" would have been referring to. Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 The Exvangelicals Even as evangelicals maintain their position as the most popular religion in the U.S., a movement of self-described "exvangelicals" is breaking away, using social media to engage tens of thousands of former faithful. The big picture: Donald Trump's presidency, as well as movements around LGBTQ rights, #MeToo and Black Lives Matter, drew more Americans into evangelical churches while also pushing some existing members away. What they're saying: Blake Chastain, the Exvangelical podcaster who's also credited with starting the use of the hashtag #exvangelical, tells Axios that, in the old days, people "might meet at a bar and speak in hushed tones about 'how weird that church was.’” Now, Chastain said, those kinds of discussions are far more public and ripple across larger networks of people because of social media. What we're watching: There's a growing subculture of the "deconstructed" — a buzzword with a range of meanings, from stepping back from a certain kind of Christian culture or politics, to leaving organized religion altogether. Instagram accounts like "Dirty Rotten Church Kids” and "Your Favorite Heretics" are providing an online community for those questioning or rejecting the evangelical church tradition. Podcasts including Exvangelical, Almost Heretical and Straight White American Jesus are garnering big followings. Google searches for "religious trauma" and "exvangelical" are on the rise, according to Google Trends. How we got here: There were always diverse views among evangelicals, but "Trump's four years in the White House made painfully clear just how deep these divisions ran," said author Kristin Du Mez. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 What a charlatan: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Well, I agree with the no lesbian archers part. Feel very strongly about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: Well, I agree with the no lesbian archers part. Feel very strongly about that. What’s your problem with archers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Something something Archer lesbians... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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