Rufus T Firefly Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 So, there's an argument to having to put a black woman on the ticket. I don't necessarily agree with it, but it's not without merit. But the idea that Biden should pick someone black because "he owes them", especially a woman who African American voters showed not a scintilla of interest in when she ran for President, would be the most defeatist, wrong-headed, frankly most Democratic thing ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Renegade7 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 5 hours ago, Rufus T Firefly said: So, there's an argument to having to put a black woman on the ticket. I don't necessarily agree with it, but it's not without merit. But the idea that Biden should pick someone black because "he owes them", especially a woman who African American voters showed not a scintilla of interest in when she ran for President, would be the most defeatist, wrong-headed, frankly most Democratic thing ever. Been saying this for months, but is what it is now. Harris checks enough boxes that she won't be a Palin, that would've been my bigger concern with Dems boxing themselves into who "has" to be the VP pick. "That little girl who ended up being Biden's running mate after all that busing nonsense...that little girl was me." I mean, lets be real, if this process this year was about picking the best candidate to be President, Biden wouldn't be head of the ticket. So all things considered, Dems could do a helluva lot worse then putting themselves in a situation that if something happens to him, the next President is a black woman who used to be AG in California. I did take Kamela seriously at first, that door is still open for me. All she has to do is own her mistakes and Biden announce she'll run point on law enforcement overhaul as VP and I'm in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Burgold Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 6 hours ago, visionary said: Can there be any more apt statement than "Voting for Trump is a health hazard. May lead to death." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Parscale thinking because bait like this would work on him, it would work on Biden. I would 100% now add prerequisites for this now if I were Biden. Release the info of where those COVID funds went would be #1. his taxes would be #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 If you are clamoring for more debates, it means you are losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 The core reason for any political debate is to demonstrate greater “fitness” as a candidate. Joe can do that without leaving his kitchen. Just let Trump clown himself while the economy grinds to a halt in September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Don't need any. We all know what would happen. Trump would stumble all over himself. Biden would do pretty good. Not good enough for some whiny ass people. Repubs would say Trump won and looked great. Poll numbers would slightly reflect this, because people are so goddamned stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 I'd say lets make sure we do the debates we always do even if we know what's going to happen. I don't get Trump wanting more, but I hope we don't cancel the one's right before the election. VP needs their chance to make themselves known and eviscerate Pence on live tv for trying to sound logical in his total failure at his position. Trump being Trump is its own ad, definitely stick with the hour long live ones that everyone will be watching with would be the traditional debates. If there's anyone left in the dense by then, that should push them over, it's about doing as much down ballot damage as possible at this point ad well, not jus getting rid of Trump. The more GOP has to defend Trump for, the harder their own races will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Same format for debates except no audience. Trump fails when he doesn't get immediate feedback from an audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, LadySkinsFan said: Same format for debates except no audience. Trump fails when he doesn't get immediate feedback from an audience. Agreed, harder to play to a crowd when there is none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 For the debates, my fantasy is an ear-splitting AH-OOO-GAH horn that blasts every time a candidate [Trump] lies. These would be set up directly behind the candidates [Trump] and would be painfully loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 At the first debate, Joe should walk out, take a sip from a glass of water and then turn to Trump and say "your turn". Lets see how well Trumps message of Joe being unfit works after he gets exposed during a debate. Its time to get dirty folks, The party of Trump surely will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 I think this weekend has a lot of potential to be another Charlottesville type situation. Lots of pent up emotions on both sides. Quote Writing on Twitter, Trump lumped together "protesters, anarchists, agitators, looters or lowlifes" and said they would not be afforded what he's decried as gentile treatment if they gather outside his Tulsa event. It came the morning after he used a blatantly false video of young children to decry media coverage of American race relations, a move that drew a rebuke from Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Renegade7 said: I'd say lets make sure we do the debates we always do even if we know what's going to happen. I don't get Trump wanting more, but I hope we don't cancel the one's right before the election. i agree just do the normal debates trump wanting more is just a strategic play. If Biden refuses he can talk about how he’s scared. If Biden accepts it’s just one more debate that’ll likely go like the rest. There’s not really a losing option for trump here because... re: expected debate performance i don’t share mosts views on what the debate performance will be. Yes, for the informer voter trump will look like a clown but for most informed voters that’s already known. So there’s not much advantage to Biden there. what I think they want is trump on stage bullying Biden so that they can rile up the base. And that can be done even if Biden comes across superior to the informer voters. but also it gives Biden, a guy known for gaffs, more opportunities to make gaffs (cause debates will make it more likely than random stump speeches or controlled town halls where he could go off script and screw up but it’s not as likely as a debate) if you can’t win by attacking the substance of ideas then attack the person. That’s their plan cause they don’t have other options. More debates gives them more chances to do it. does anyone think someone will determine who to vote for based on debates at this point? Seems more likely the goal is to raise the energy for the base to make sure they show up to vote (while trying to lower the energy for the other side so they don’t show up) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 2 hours ago, PleaseBlitz said: I think this weekend has a lot of potential to be another Charlottesville type situation. Lots of pent up emotions on both sides. I mean, after Oklahoma City, you'd think they'd take this more serious than other states. Probably not, tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted June 19, 2020 Author Share Posted June 19, 2020 Honesty, there's no point in having debates. Baby Bunker is mentally incapable of having a real debate on the issues. Joe should just do town halls instead. If there are any debates, I think Trump only has one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 I still think anyone expecting Trump and Pence to actually agree to and do a debate is kidding themselves. Strategically they are better off hiding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said: I still think anyone expecting Trump and Pence to actually agree to and do a debate is kidding themselves. Strategically they are better off hiding. All they need to do is throw poop to muddy the waters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PleaseBlitz Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, visionary said: #badlegaltakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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