Llevron Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 They are so bad at everything its funny. These leakers deserve medals. Honestly its probably Spicer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 So they're not even denying he said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 A big part of me believes he wants to get impeached so he can say that the swamp was working against him or some BS like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 29 minutes ago, AJ* said: I'm questioning how in the hell this kind of information could get leaked? If Trump has such a tight circle he would have to know right off who's talking to the press since only a handful of people would probably know exactly what he said. I think it's always more people than we think with access to this info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 btw, i have it 50-50 that if it gets bad enough but still short of an ending, that don would try firing mueller and just try going full out strongman...and to go further (and this thinking goes back to January) it's no great leap to me to envision don trying a premise-argued (easy to see what it would look like) semi-coup, actually have support from his full cabinet, veep, even the gens minus mattis, and half the gop and 100% of his base...not drinking the tin foil for real lol, just talking about being in a deal where not only is "anything is possible" fair to use, but where this isn't all that far out there given what we've seen to date, the basic state today of general liberal/conservative divisiveness and hostility, and even the current/recent geopolitical nature of the world... but it looks like a great weekend ahead, so don't worry about what-ifs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 29 minutes ago, AJ* said: I'm questioning how in the hell this kind of information could get leaked? Lots of people are needed to make things work. They see how Trump treats people. He contradicts them (I assume because he's stupid), and scapegoats them when it becomes advantageous to do so. You treat people like ****, or convince them you're certifiably stupid, they don't have your back. Do it to the level Trump does, and they can easily justify going on the offensive (protect themselves, hell at this point it's believable to think they honestly think it's in the best interest of the country...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, Jumbo said: it's no great leap to me to envision don trying a premise-argued (easy to see what it would look like) semi-coup, No need to envision what it would look like, you can see it forming already http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/do-high-level-leaks-suggest-a-conspiracy/ Though they seem to have rejected your term of semi-coup for "Soft coup" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 1 minute ago, tshile said: Though they seem to have rejected your term of semi-coup for "Soft coup" i gots no talent for lingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, tshile said: Lots of people are needed to make things work. They see how Trump treats people. He contradicts them (I assume because he's stupid), and scapegoats them when it becomes advantageous to do so. You treat people like ****, or convince them you're certifiably stupid, they don't have your back. Do it to the level Trump does, and they can easily justify going on the offensive (protect themselves, hell at this point it's believable to think they honestly think it's in the best interest of the country...) Yup. What goes around comes around, biotch. Trump has never had to worry about that before in the private sector. He's always been able to bully, intimidate, and otherwise treat people like **** without fear of any sort of repercussions. Trump is probably so far along in the psychopathy spectrum that he literally can't fathom what is wrong with treating people the way he does, let alone correct it or reflect on it. He won't ever change. IMO he CAN'T ever change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 55 minutes ago, AJ* said: I'm questioning how in the hell this kind of information could get leaked? If Trump has such a tight circle he would have to know right off who's talking to the press since only a handful of people would probably know exactly what he said. I don't think it's a tight circle. I think there are three adversarial camps. There's the Bannon camp, the Priebus camp, and the (for lack of a better term) professional White House staffer camp. The pros certainly hate what's going on and recognize all the difficulties and mess being made. I'm sure, these professional bureaucrats, some of whom out last a President by many, many years are used to working around a President's peccadilloes, but even though every new boss presents difficulties, I'm sure Trump is uniquely frustrating. Add to that the fact that Bannon camp keeps trying to backstab the Priebus camp and vice versa, you have a wonderfully toxic atmosphere where many people distrust each other and really dislike each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haithman Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 So Trump & Co. did all they could to lie and obfuscate the truth to the American public re: why Comey was fired but he was quick to divulge the real truth to his Russian buddies? What a traitorous scumbag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanboyOf91 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 (peeps inside after two hours away) Jesus ****ing Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 This is just a straight up dumpster fire at this point. No way this dude finishes his full term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanboyOf91 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 He's in the air, isn't he? The FBI rank-and-file must be going nuts right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Never mind, my news feed screwed up. This was from 2 hours ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanboyOf91 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 The optics of all this are so so terrible. Dissing your own law enforcement officials to a hostile foreign power behind closed doors. I remember when Fox News was freaking out about Obama chewing gum while saluting or something. I bet they are secretly pissed that all this drama isn't unfolding for a liberal politician. Fox News would be having a ****ing party if Hillary and her campaign were under criminal investigation by the FBI for collusion with a hostile foreign government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 1 minute ago, tshile said: Basically the WaPo has heard from a source that the Russia investigation has labeled someone *currently* in the Whitehouse as a person of significant interest, and says it is someone very close to trump. this cold be a fun board game ala Clue...we need cartoon cards of kellyanne, jared, bannon, jeff, etc. imma say it was kushner in the parking garage with the property titles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanboyOf91 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 State TV, man. When do they start showing reruns of Saving Private Ryan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 Grifter gonna grift: It takes special skill to turn your criminal investigation into a fundraising opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 29 minutes ago, No Excuses said: This is just a straight up dumpster fire at this point. No way this dude finishes his full term. I will note that, when they showed Blazing Saddles on network TV, they left the "n-word" in the movie, but the censors trimmed this scene out. I assume because of Harvey Korman's lip movements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, No Excuses said: Grifter gonna grift: It takes special skill to turn your criminal investigation into a fundraising opportunity. Imagine what he could do with his impeachment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 36 minutes ago, bearrock said: Imagine what he could do with his impeachment! Give me all your money and I will literally Buy America! Then I will be able to make the best deals for everyone! P.S. if anyone is wondering how leakers happen, it's because Trump has no real friends. Well, except maybe Roger Stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanboyOf91 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Of course, it always comes back to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornaSkinsFan83 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 3 hours ago, skinsfan_1215 said: Every day like clockwork... -WaPo reports that the Russian probe has reached the point where at least one WH official is a serious person of interest. Taking bets... Bannon? Kushner. Already confirmed he was at one of those Russian meetings with Flynn. Would also explain why he pushed for Comney.to be fired and why he wanted to "counterattack" on the special counsel appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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