techboy Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 25 minutes ago, Larry said: Also: I seem to remember that there's a government shutdown scheduled for the 30th. the "popcorn munching smiley" part of me has been having this fantasy. I think Nancy needs to demand that and spending bill that goes through the House will contain some clauses: \ One flaw with this plan is that the House already passed a short term funding bill. https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/19/politics/house-spending-bill-avert-shutdown/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 24 minutes ago, Larry said: Question: I've seen things that kinda imply that there's a law or something that whistleblower reports must go to Congress. Can anybody confiem that there actually is such a law? From what has been explained to me, the inspector general should have taken the whistleblower claim directly to congress. Instead he went to the DOJ, and Barr told him absolutely do not share this with congress, citing......absolutely nothing as precedence. So yeah, another situation where institutions are being ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, techboy said: One flaw with this plan is that the House already passed a short term funding bill. https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/19/politics/house-spending-bill-avert-shutdown/index.html Replying in the Congress thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh8686 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Disgusting ****ers. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Bringing other countries to investigate your political opponents is against the law right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, Llevron said: Bringing other countries to investigate your political opponents is against the law right? Probably but the GOP has decided that they are above the law so it’s kind of irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 17 minutes ago, Llevron said: Bringing other countries to investigate your political opponents is against the law right? Not when you live in an authoritarian country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Trump pressured the Ukrainian President-elect 8 times to investigate Joe Biden’s son during that phone call. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 42 minutes ago, Llevron said: Bringing other countries to investigate your political opponents is against the law right? BUT JOE BIDEN! HUNTER BIDEN! $1.5 BILLION! HILLARY! EMAILS! BENGHAZI! URANIUM ONE! YOU CAN KEEP YOUR DOCTOR! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Come on guys, everyone knows the *DEEP STATE* has been protecting the Biden's for decade and Trump is merely draining the swamp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 51 minutes ago, Llevron said: Bringing other countries to investigate your political opponents is against the law right? Taxpayer funded extortion of a US ally. Very legal, very cool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 "But it's legal for the President to conduct negotiations with foreign leaders." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Part of the complaint.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbear Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 If the WSJ is saying it, then it isn't some source easily written off as another liberal media source saying it. If true, will Republicans in senate finally show there is a bridge somewhere that is finally at long last, a bridge too far to go when supporting Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) I think Trump and co just ignore the WSJ investigation articles about him. There’s been more than a few the past couple of years or so despite the pro Trump lean of the paper and it’s editorials. Edited September 20, 2019 by visionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 1 minute ago, gbear said: If the WSJ is saying it, then it isn't some source easily written off as another liberal media source saying it. If true, will Republicans in senate finally show there is a bridge somewhere that is finally at long last, a bridge too far to go when supporting Trump. I don't think so because they are now fully complicit, by supporting treasonous policies, accepting foreign campaign money, subverting the Constitution and breaking their oath of office. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 I’m sure it was just locker room talk. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 since we are speculating......does Biden's son have some kind of immunity? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 2 hours ago, gbear said: If true, will Republicans in senate finally show there is a bridge somewhere that is finally at long last, a bridge too far to go when supporting Trump. No. This isn’t even the worst thing he’s done. They don’t care. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 3 hours ago, gbear said: If the WSJ is saying it, then it isn't some source easily written off as another liberal media source saying it. If true, will Republicans in senate finally show there is a bridge somewhere that is finally at long last, a bridge too far to go when supporting Trump. 90% chance his supporters will cite the passage in the WSJ article where the source said he didn't believe Trump offered any quid-pro-quo for Ukraine's help on that July 25th call, and say that that exonerates him. But that was only one call; the complaint apparently cites multiple things. So even if Trump didn't actually mention it specifically on that call, it doesn't mean it wasn't mentioned elsewhere. That being said, Trump is actually somewhat good at being slippery when it comes to **** like that. As has been said before, he really acts more like a mob boss than a business owner. He'll say stuff like "You don't really want to do that, do you? With the things we talked about?" or "It would be a shame if something happened" instead of making a direct threat. He probably did the exact same with Ukraine. So I'd be surprised if he actually said out loud "I'll only give you the aid if you investigate and smear my political opponent for me". It's still going to be pretty damning. However, the Republicans in the Senate will do nothing. Because this will not sway Trump's base at all. Zero. They'll actually turn it around and scream about Biden for hours instead; it will only embolden them. And he won't lose his Senate and House Republican enablers unless he loses his base. They're all terrified of his base because if they go against him they're likely to get primaried and booted, and all they care about is staying in power. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoneMessedUp Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 3 hours ago, gbear said: If the WSJ is saying it, then it isn't some source easily written off as another liberal media source saying it. If true, will Republicans in senate finally show there is a bridge somewhere that is finally at long last, a bridge too far to go when supporting Trump. Everyone should know the answer to this question by now. The entirety of the GOP is rotten to its core and its going to stay rotten until they are disembowled at the polls. Nothing will change until there are consequences. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmsy Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 7 hours ago, mistertim said: 90% chance his supporters will cite the passage in the WSJ article where the source said he didn't believe Trump offered any quid-pro-quo for Ukraine's help on that July 25th call, and say that that exonerates him. But that was only one call; the complaint apparently cites multiple things. So even if Trump didn't actually mention it specifically on that call, it doesn't mean it wasn't mentioned elsewhere. That being said, Trump is actually somewhat good at being slippery when it comes to **** like that. As has been said before, he really acts more like a mob boss than a business owner. He'll say stuff like "You don't really want to do that, do you? With the things we talked about?" or "It would be a shame if something happened" instead of making a direct threat. He probably did the exact same with Ukraine. So I'd be surprised if he actually said out loud "I'll only give you the aid if you investigate and smear my political opponent for me". It's still going to be pretty damning. However, the Republicans in the Senate will do nothing. Because this will not sway Trump's base at all. Zero. They'll actually turn it around and scream about Biden for hours instead; it will only embolden them. And he won't lose his Senate and House Republican enablers unless he loses his base. They're all terrified of his base because if they go against him they're likely to get primaried and booted, and all they care about is staying in power. Once again, I feel that Trump is given too much credit for his "slipperyness". Trump has the strategy of a four year old, just keep lying and deny no matter what. It reminds me of those videos parents post of their kids with chocolate all over their faces and ask them if they ate the chocolate. The kid always says no, we all laugh and think its cute. Its not cute or funny with Trump, the GOP are bad parents. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now