RabidFan Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 2 hours ago, HapHaszard said: The whole anti-Snyder/Redskins deal by the WP started when Snyder took over the Redskins, found that the free game tickets that the Redskins had been giving to the WP were showing up on the secondary market and he stopped giving them free tickets. From then on it was hostile to the point where at one time the Redskins pretty much stopped allowing staff to even talk to WP reporters. While things have been smoothed over since then every once in a while it surfaces at the WP again. Well to be fair, with the print media dying out WaPo was counting on that scalping revenue towards their bottom line. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goskins10 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 16 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Do old people really forget to wear pants or do they just stop caring and pretend they forget? You will find out soon enough grasshopper... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HapHaszard Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 25 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Do old people really forget to wear pants or do they just stop caring and pretend they forget? We're supposed to wear pants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre The Giant Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 To me, Bruce doesn't want Scot to talk right now, because the team's working on resigning Cousins. If Scot says something that upsets Kirk and his agent, it could hurt the Skins' bargaining position. There's been a lot of stories referring to how Cousins wants to be shown he's wanted by this team. Bruce wants to control the public narrative, because that's what's currently in the best interest of the team. He doesn't mind Gruden talking, because Jay'll emphatically state how he wants Kirk to return. Scot was likely responsible for a couple Jerry Brewer articles that probably upset Kirk. He also may have been involved in the recent Jason Cole report. Bruce wants to to keep this stuff in house as much as possible while he's working on the contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphilly Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 47 minutes ago, HapHaszard said: Sorry bout dat, was meant for the twitter thread, I get confused easily 3 minutes ago, Andre The Giant said: To me, Bruce doesn't want Scot to talk right now, because the team's working on resigning Cousins. If Scot says something that upsets Kirk and his agent, it could hurt the Skins' bargaining position. There's been a lot of stories referring to how Cousins wants to be shown he's wanted by this team. Bruce wants to control the public narrative, because that's what's currently in the best interest of the team. He doesn't mind Gruden talking, because Jay'll emphatically state how he wants Kirk to return. Scot was likely responsible for a couple Jerry Brewer articles that probably upset Kirk. He also may have been involved in the recent Jason Cole report. Bruce wants to to keep this stuff in house as much as possible while he's working on the contract. Kirk is too sensitive Modern day hippy I tell ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphilly Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 14 minutes ago, HapHaszard said: We're supposed to wear pants? I prefer a LoinCloth most days but if its really hot just a **** sock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Oh boy. Now our QBs a snowflake. Hope the red zone becomes his safe space. 1 hour ago, jphilly said: I prefer a Loin Cloth most days but if its really hot just a **** sock What's her name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphilly Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Oh boy. Now our QBs a snowflake. Hope the red zone becomes his safe space. What's her name? Beer Wench , fixed btw thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre The Giant Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 15 minutes ago, jphilly said: Beer Wench , fixed btw thanks Doesn't Jeffrey Lurie have a picture of Mother Theresa in the Eagles HQ lobby? What a thoughtful, caring guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 GMs are usually quiet right now anyway. All of them. They're working on scouting, negotiating FA contracts and preparing Draft strategy. Still no big deal, Scot will have his little presser when we'll sign a few guys in the upcomings days. And after the draft as well. Can't believe we're making a story out of nothing here... Isn't Bruce Allen that denied the owner to discuss our pants color as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Does any team's GM speak right now unless its a just hired type thing(i.e. Lynch in San Fran)? Allen is better at dealing with the media anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 5 hours ago, Andre The Giant said: To me, Bruce doesn't want Scot to talk right now, because the team's working on resigning Cousins. If Scot says something that upsets Kirk and his agent, it could hurt the Skins' bargaining position. There's been a lot of stories referring to how Cousins wants to be shown he's wanted by this team. Bruce wants to control the public narrative, because that's what's currently in the best interest of the team. He doesn't mind Gruden talking, because Jay'll emphatically state how he wants Kirk to return. Scot was likely responsible for a couple Jerry Brewer articles that probably upset Kirk. He also may have been involved in the recent Jason Cole report. Bruce wants to to keep this stuff in house as much as possible while he's working on the contract. This is what I'm inclined to believe as well. Some floated rumors that Allen is jealous of the credit Scot gets as a reason, but this offseason people were giving Allen credit for 2014 draft and criticizing Scot's picks in recent draft and also saying a lot of players were here when Scot got here. So I don't buy that. If you follow the timeline of events: Jan. 24th Bruce Allen states Cousins IS our QB, next day, Jan. 25th Jason Cole starts talking about the team trading Cousins, it gets spread all over twitter that it's legit because Scot and Cole are tight. Then, not even a full week later, reports on twitter start leaking that Bruce told Scot he couldn't hold interviews. Since then Allen has been more vocal about the team keeping Cousins and since he did that Cousins has stated he does want to stay here. Now of course in-house you entertain trade offers because you never know what teams are willing to pony up, but you don't leak that stuff to the media when you're in the middle of negotiations. Maybe Scot didn't but Allen is just being overly cautious, maybe Scot did leak info, or maybe for the sake of keeping trade offers coming in and for negotiations Allen wants the GM's position on Cousins to stay unknown. Not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COWBOY-KILLA- Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 https://www.dchotread.com/2017/02/11/more-power-for-bruce More fuel for the fire..Would rather not have this swirling around.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 When all is said and done we will find out who the real reporters are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 1 hour ago, COWBOY-KILLA- said: https://www.dchotread.com/2017/02/11/more-power-for-bruce More fuel for the fire..Would rather not have this swirling around.. Wow, that's impressively bad. He even states a few times that he has no facts and is making it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Damn. Personally I like Russell, but was just a prime example of him being him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedlamVR Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Russell has only been covering the skins for 6 years - wow - I thought it was MUCH longer than that always comes across to me as a guy with an axe to grind ... I think it is telling that it is six years for numerous different outlets . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 People in positions of power have egos. Who'd have thought. That being said, this kind of news is easy to shoot down very quickly. Time for some positive action from the Front Office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 20 hours ago, HapHaszard said: We're supposed to wear pants? Only if you don't wear panties. 6 hours ago, COWBOY-KILLA- said: https://www.dchotread.com/2017/02/11/more-power-for-bruce More fuel for the fire..Would rather not have this swirling around.. Interestingly, he smartly forgets the part where Bruce hired both Jay and Scot, the guys responsible for the turnover. Being able to hire the right guys is more important than anything here. And IIRC, when they hired Scot, Bruce stated that he was no GM. Some of those reporters are really trying to make smoke where there is no fire... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 What's iirc mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander -JB- Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 15 hours ago, elkabong82 said: This is what I'm inclined to believe as well. Some floated rumors that Allen is jealous of the credit Scot gets as a reason, but this offseason people were giving Allen credit for 2014 draft and criticizing Scot's picks in recent draft and also saying a lot of players were here when Scot got here. So I don't buy that. If you follow the timeline of events: Jan. 24th Bruce Allen states Cousins IS our QB, next day, Jan. 25th Jason Cole starts talking about the team trading Cousins, it gets spread all over twitter that it's legit because Scot and Cole are tight. Then, not even a full week later, reports on twitter start leaking that Bruce told Scot he couldn't hold interviews. Since then Allen has been more vocal about the team keeping Cousins and since he did that Cousins has stated he does want to stay here. Now of course in-house you entertain trade offers because you never know what teams are willing to pony up, but you don't leak that stuff to the media when you're in the middle of negotiations. Maybe Scot didn't but Allen is just being overly cautious, maybe Scot did leak info, or maybe for the sake of keeping trade offers coming in and for negotiations Allen wants the GM's position on Cousins to stay unknown. Not sure. Or maybe it's typical Redskins micromanagement. Bruce and Dan not letting McCloughan do his job. 1 hour ago, Koolblue13 said: What's iirc mean? I'll assume "if I recall correctly" lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 9 hours ago, COWBOY-KILLA- said: https://www.dchotread.com/2017/02/11/more-power-for-bruce More fuel for the fire..Would rather not have this swirling around.. Not even bothering to click that. More clickbait and drama in a time where news is minimal. I can't stand Chris Russell--he's a screaming head that just wants to cultivate emotional reactions rather than deal with facts. That being said, this all could be fact, but it seems like a ton of conjecture, and ignoring anything actually positive about the team. I am waiting to see what happens. Signing Kirk long term will silence a lot of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 9 hours ago, Koolblue13 said: Wow, that's impressively bad. He even states a few times that he has no facts and is making it up. Yes, it's clear several of the jackals in the sports media have seen Jones' article, and are now piling on for clickbait and reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onedrop Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 "Dan Snyder and Bruce Allen looking concerned (or bored but that's less provocative) on the sidelines....you won't believe what happens next" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 12 hours ago, COWBOY-KILLA- said: https://www.dchotread.com/2017/02/11/more-power-for-bruce More fuel for the fire..Would rather not have this swirling around.. When Scot was hired, it was Bruce who told Snyder he had to be patient if this was going to work... Yet the story now is that Bruce is "jealous" that the guy he wanted for months and hired to turn things around is getting credit for--wait for it--starting to turn things around? lol....Not to mention that Scot M is starting to get some criticism for his draft classes not panning out yet (duh...it's only been 2 years) and that his free agent signings have largely been busts. So what exactly is there for Allen to be jealous over? lol..."The press isn't criticizing me as much as they are Scot!...I wanna be criticized, too, dammit. I'm as much a part in our late-season collapse as anyone else in this building!...I know...I'll ban Scot from doing any interviews. That'll learn 'im!" This reminds me of the story that Jason Cole (I think) said that Cousins wasn't talking to RG3 and couldn't even be in the same room as Griffin, that's how stressful and terrible their relationship had become. But then something like a week later, the WPost does a story on Cousins being named starter and in it the writer mentions that Cousins and Griffin attend Bible Study together, and that when Kirk found out his father had cancer, Griffin and McCoy were the first players he talked to about it. But to a lot of fans and even writers it didn't matter...Cole's article confirmed people's biases so it got tossed around as fact and truth. (Edit: I think I got the timing of the articles wrong...the article talking about the bible study and Cousins' father's health came out 2 months or so after Cole's article...however, the bible study session and talk about his father occurred right around the time of Cole's "They aren't speaking/can't be in the same room together" stuff, so the overall point still remains in tact) Or the time where, after we found out that Scot was being hired as the new GM, Rick Snider claimed that it was "fan backlash" over A.J. Smith's increased role in things that made the Skins go out and hire a real GM...said something like "See? Fan outrage can and does effect things."...Of course when other writers waited to get facts to write their stories on the hire later, we found out that Allen and Snyder had been in contact with Scot about a possible hire as GM while the 2014 season was still going on...and months earlier than any "fan backlash" over A.J. Smith ever took place. But yanno, no real reason to hold back on anything as a journalist when your gut feeling can serve as an 'insider source'. Or--speaking of Cole again lol--how Jason Cole came out with the story that Scot M had to "stand on the table" for 5 hours to convince Snyder to let Gruden start Cousins. But that was a year after the ESPN story from Russini and Schefter that made the claim that the meeting was 2 hours, not 5...and that story was refuted by other stories, most notably from the WPost and PFT, with PFT saying that the majority of the 2 hour meeting dealt with Snyder and Scot talking about what exactly happened to cause Griffin to be cleared to play after going through concussion protocol and then having it rescinded a day or two later....not about Snyder needing 2 hours to be convinced to let Gruden start Cousins. So not only was Cole a year late in his "scoop", but he more than doubled the alleged "Convince Snyder to let Cousins start" timespan from 2 hours to 5 hours. But damn if there weren't some fans here parroting Cole's "5-hour meeting" comments as something that had just now come to light, and that proved their suspicions about Snyder were correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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