Renegade7 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 It wouldn't shock me if someone offered him a HC gig, and you know what, they can have him. I'm not 100% pissed at the guy, but I do believe he just loves the pass too much to grow out of it. I'd like to keep the same system in place, but it doesn't seem like Jay is able to reel him in and coach to his talent, especially in the redzone, still forcing stuff. Someone even pointed out Trent being upset how they don't run to the left enough. I don't know about all that, but I wouldn't fight to keep McVay here. Not if we're bringing Kirk back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Not really. He has not impressed me this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsPassion4Life Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 No...Gruden, Barry and McVay...gotta go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 McVay has positives and negatives. I think he's a good designer of offense, at least passing plays, and we generally are able to move the ball. But man his run game design is awful. Why do we always go jumbo 3 TEs and/or Nscitzhke as 6th lineman on run plays? Or the shotgun draws? Why can't we ever just do a normal under center 2-3 WR hand off? I also don't think he utilizes the middle of the field enough, especially the seam routes. Reed should be a terror on those but its mostly just sideline stuff or something short to Reed and hope he makes three guys miss(he often can). And the redzone playcalling is atrocious. I'm fine with McVay staying, but if some idiot team wants him to be their HC I laugh and drive him to Dulles myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 I'd be fine with replacing both cordinators, but not Jay. He's safe in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C26 Run Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Despite this ugly and heartbreaking loss, our offense wasn't the biggest problem this year. McVay is a very good coordinator, but Barry has got to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I think McVay is fine and I'm okay with him continuing to grow and get better with us. I'd be shocked if someone offered him a HC position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celticsalmon Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 we got rid of Kyle Shanhan for Mc Vey- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 No. I think a completely average football mind could get our offensive talent to produce. McVay calls the offense like he's playing Madden. Jump ball to DJax from the 1! 40 yard pass attempt on 3rd and 1! And when he does run, the designs are completely unimaginative, telegraphed or outright illogical. Chris Thompson up the gut in a jumbo package, yeah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, Burgold said: I think McVay is fine and I'm okay with him continuing to grow and get better with us. I'd be shocked if someone offered him a HC position. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/teams-doing-due-diligence-on-redskins-offensive-guru-sean-mcvay/ They're definitely looking, but its not a shoe-in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins island connection Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 His name was on a list of possible hires I saw on Fox [ FWIW ] this morning. Barry needs to go as well as this failure of a 3-4, Gruden needs to pull his head outta his ass during games so he can recognize when to call a time out, and McVay needs to be more creative in designing plays to maximize potential. But I have a feeling that if McVay does go, Allen will hire another Tampa Bay coach and we'll be in the same or worse condition afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor703 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 No. His playcalling is a joke. He doesn't understand the situation and gets cute far too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKskins Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 12 minutes ago, Bacon said: No. I think a completely average football mind could get our offensive talent to produce. McVay calls the offense like he's playing Madden. Jump ball to DJax from the 1! 40 yard pass attempt on 3rd and 1! And when he does run, the designs are completely unimaginative, telegraphed or outright illogical. Chris Thompson up the gut in a jumbo package, yeah! This is about where I'm at. Crazy play calls at times and we are so bad in the RZ it's ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campbellcooleyconnection Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Both coordinators can hit pavement I'm really beginning to think bringing Gruden back is a waste and just delaying the inevitable.Every big game team comes out and lays a giant egg......soooo tired of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF44 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 22 minutes ago, Burgold said: I think McVay is fine and I'm okay with him continuing to grow and get better with us. I'd be shocked if someone offered him a HC position. Nobody wants to let anyone developed any more. Be it QB, Coach or GM. Win it all or go deep in the playoffs in a couple years or be gone!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregW8705 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 No. His playcalling in the red zone is atrocious. His playcalling on third down is atrocious. His playcalling in big games is atrocious. He is atrocious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carex Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 hopefully he develops a bit but he's pretty good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Market Bully Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 A good offensive coordinator makes his money in the red zone. McVay is too busy proving how "smart" he is to the rest of the league. Get him out of here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetThePointsSoar Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 He's the one coordinator that I think has done enough he deserves the opportunity to keep getting better and improving his weaknesses (red zone, inconsistent play calling). On the other side of the ball, however....but I digress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF44 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I hate the cowboys. But they have stuck with a coach and system, built an offensive line and got lucky on a QB now they are kicking ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Baby Huey needs to work it out more as a position coach. He is not qualified to be an O Coordinator at this level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 On 1/1/2017 at 10:13 PM, zoony said: Baby Huey needs to work it out more as a position coach. He is not qualified to be an O Coordinator at this level Second time I've seen you call him, where did that come from out curiosity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garcon More Wine Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 yes, he needs to get the red zone woes fixed but aside from that he did a good job for year 2. dude is super young, did enough to warrant another year. he wont be a head coach somewhere, nowhere near enough experience yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco Bell Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Honestly, even more than Barry, I want Boy Wonder gone. I navigated this season without posting much, mostly because the Cousins narrative this year wasn't as interesting as previous years top stories, but if I would have been part of that conversation, my incessant input would have been this... Cousins actually does worry me now a bit the way his arm strength and decision making looked down the stretch this year, but his positives are still enough where I'm fine with the tag or long term deal at whatever price, whatever. But, our redzone issues in particular, I would say were 80-20 Boy Wonder's fault. Doing the 1 WR do or die passes over and over and other dumb stupidity was on him, and not on Cousins. We don't have Julio Jones to throw to on those, we were throwing to Desean or Crowder or whoever. Some of that I think is him lacking the aggression and killer instinct as an OC and him possibly trying to appease personnel (cough Desean cough) and other dumb back scratching. And not sure why, but we never really seem to just blatantly attack matchup issues against other team's defenses, while it's literally commonplace for other teams to just do it because, why not, on a per play basis, who cares if you are letting the whole world see that a team's 2nd CB is garbage and worth abusing. He's too nice or something. Or too young. That's the whole thing with him. I don't feel like giving excuses to a guy just because he's new or young. I'll gladly take a 50 year old pizza eating cigar smoking NFL lifer over Boy Wonder and dealing with The Wonder Years of him trying to "figure it out." ----------------- I just saw the reference to Trent saying he wishes they would have ran left more... exactly, that type of thing. It's almost like he didn't do it on purpose, as if, it's a crutch to rely on matchups... That's the whole purpose of the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Some curious play calling aside, he's done an excellent job. We had one of the best offenses in football. We did struggle in the RZ this year, but our offense sure as hell was not the problem most of this year. We played a first place schedule and a hell of a lot of good to great defenses this year, yet we still produced. I'd like to see some more continuity here, as he's been a big reason for Kirk's development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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