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brandymac27

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A positive for me today was hearing of the spike in Orwell's 1984 sales. I love the idea of new generations discovering the golden oldies. I've been thinking about that full-on in your face nature of dissembling (and even aggressive strategic lying) called  "doublespeak" ever since I started seeing Trumps spokespeople on panels and witnessed the heights it was being taken to in this manifestation. When I was a teen, 1984 and Aldous Huxley's Brave new World were both "must reads" along with Harlan Ellison and Kurt Vonnegut. Philosophy and heavy social and political commentary were  major components in much "sci-fi" then (movies too, like THX1138/Logan's Run etc. ) and that genre was kind of a common unifying interest for many young folks of the day. Even at the high school age, we'd gather 'round and talk about this stuff as part of "what's up.". It was all much better before the internet. :P

 

 

 

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28 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said:

So if anyone is keeping score..

 

Martial law - bigly good

Science - bigly bad

Torture and CIA Black Sites - bigly good

Gag orders - bigly good

Muslims and immigrants - bigly bad

Media - bigly bad

Fox news - bigly good

 

anything else I'm missing?

 

I think you are missing a lot, but I understand these things take time to adjust to. :)

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After 4 days..its becoming apparent that Trump likes his socialism nationalistic. And the GOP who acted like they hated him before are mostly goosestepping their way back into line.

 

Quite a **** show.

 

Will anyone be surprised when Dear Leader mentions concentration camps for "the muslims" here in the US?

 

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Just now, HOF44 said:

You left out Soylent Green! That's where we are headed.  Gotta feed the masses somehow!!

 

 

Oh, I left out a lot, trying not go too OT lol.

I had also been thinking of a number of RTT regs that would love the socially-directed sci-fi works of Heinlein and Asimov and Dick (and on and on). sci-fi was a real hotbed of social and philosophical imaginations---very much about the nature of humans interacting and all the noises they make internally and externally in the process. :opus:

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Regarding the bigly thing, I know that's a running joke now, but I watched that debate, and at the time, I really thought he said "Big league" which made a lot more sense given what he was saying.  I didn't think anything of it until the Internet ran with bigly.  Has this ever been clarified?

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20 minutes ago, Jumbo said:

 

 

Oh, I left out a lot, trying not go too OT lol.

I had also been thinking of a number of RTT regs that would love the socially-directed sci-fi works of Heinlein and Asimov and Dick (and on and on). sci-fi was a real hotbed of social and philosophical imaginations---very much about the nature of humans interacting and all the noises they make internally and externally in the process. :opus:

 

Once quoted Heinlein (Starship Troopers) in an ethics class. Instructor said no one had ever done that before. 

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4 minutes ago, Forehead said:

Regarding the bigly thing, I know that's a running joke now, but I watched that debate, and at the time, I really thought he said "Big league" which made a lot more sense given what he was saying.  I didn't think anything of it until the Internet ran with bigly.  Has this ever been clarified?

 

It is big league (or at least that's what the speech pathologists have identified). I believe he was even asked once about it and said he was saying big league.

 

But when the President is  a 70+yo with the eloquence of a 3rd grader and the temperament of a 3yo petulant child..bigly is what I hear. 

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18 minutes ago, visionary said:
 

 

If we're now fighting a war against Islamism, we're going to have to kill A LOT of people around the world.

 

Well, for one thing, we have to reframe the discussion, to make it a religious war. 

 

Makes it it easier for us to ignore the pesky detail that most of our "radical Islamic terrorism" seems to be coming from US citizens whose only tie to "radical Islamic terrorism" is that they watched some videos on YouTube, and mentioned it in their press release. (And that you can't fight that, by blowing things up in the Middle East). 

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38 minutes ago, Larry said:

 

Well, for one thing, we have to reframe the discussion, to make it a religious war. 

 

Makes it it easier for us to ignore the pesky detail that most of our "radical Islamic terrorism" seems to be coming from US citizens whose only tie to "radical Islamic terrorism" is that they watched some videos on YouTube, and mentioned it in their press release. (And that you can't fight that, by blowing things up in the Middle East). 

 

I propose that when they make Muslim people register, we ALL register. Overload their illegal system.

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1 hour ago, twa said:

 

I think you are missing a lot, but I understand these things take time to adjust to. :)

 

By "these things," you mean authoritarianism, right? Yeah, I think it'll take Trump supporters a while to see through to what's really happening to their freedoms as well. We're certainly not all on the same page.

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