codeorama Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 My best friend is a high ranking officer in the navy. He is in DC now for training and he is very anti liberal. He didn't vote for Trump, but he hated Hillary and admitted it was because in the military, they are 99.9% GOP and hate Dems. Anyway, we talked last night and he said the overall vibe is very anti-Trump so far, which he didn't really expect. He said none of the people he's dealt with like what's happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, codeorama said: My best friend is a high ranking officer in the navy. He is in DC now for training and he is very anti liberal. He didn't vote for Trump, but he hated Hillary and admitted it was because in the military, they are 99.9% GOP and hate Dems. Anyway, we talked last night and he said the overall vibe is very anti-Trump so far, which he didn't really expect. He said none of the people he's dealt with like what's happening. The Emperor Has No Clothes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popeman38 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 12 minutes ago, No Excuses said: I don't like that move, one bit. I understand not wanting to be part of his administration, but you take these senior level jobs out of service to the nation. Everyone knows once you get to that level, there are any number of jobs available at the "Beltway Bandits" that will pay FAR more than what the DoS pays. You stay on until the department stabilizes, then you flee. All you did by doing this is ensure the DoS is in turmoil for the next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 While I'm glad some officials aren't going along with Trump, so many folks from the state department resigning makes me worry Tillerson will fill it with buddies and lackeys of his or at least less state department experienced people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Elizabeth Warren signals that she will vote to confirm Ben Carson as HUD Secretary. 1 minute ago, Popeman38 said: I don't like that move, one bit. I understand not wanting to be part of his administration, but you take these senior level jobs out of service to the nation. Everyone knows once you get to that level, there are any number of jobs available at the "Beltway Bandits" that will pay FAR more than what the DoS pays. You stay on until the department stabilizes, then you flee. All you did by doing this is ensure the DoS is in turmoil for the next year. I agree. I'm not a fan of this either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 You have to look at how much you are influencing policy. If you have no influence, and it is just here are your marching orders go do it, then you quit. If somebody is actually listening to you some, then you stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFan44 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, No Excuses said: Elizabeth Warren signals that she will vote to confirm Ben Carson as HUD Secretary. I agree. I'm not a fan of this either. Things like this don't happen in a vacuum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 15 minutes ago, Popeman38 said: I don't like that move, one bit. 14 minutes ago, No Excuses said: I agree. I'm not a fan of this either. I disagree. I've had to resign from a position because someone above me was instructing me to do something that was likely illegal (grey area), and at best unethical. I documented the situation to cover myself, then promptly resigned. I also know someone that just had to this. They were going to be put in a situation where they had to abuse their privilege, or lie, instead they resigned. Without knowing why, it's hard for me to judge them for this. If they've been told that they will do things a certain way, because of Trump and his cabinent, and they truly believe those things are either illegal, immoral, unethical, or damaging to the country and they cannot do anything to stop it, then maybe this is their best move. Maybe coming out to the public about it is not reasonable because that would also hurt the country, or maybe it would land them in jail for a long time, so the best they can do is resign refusing to accept new direction/instruction/policy, and hope that's a signal that's picked up on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haithman Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 16 minutes ago, visionary said: While I'm glad some officials aren't going along with Trump, so many folks from the state department resigning makes me worry Tillerson will fill it with buddies and lackeys of his or at least less state department experienced people. I'm of two minds about this - on the one hand I desperately want sane people at all levels of government to help us stay on as straight a path as possible. On the other hand I want the republican party to have full ownership over the destruction they are causing to this country for the sake of their cabal. It's clear they don't really have American interests at heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 37 minutes ago, dcdiscokid said: wonder how much of that has to do with who he follows, what he tweets/retweets/likes, and which hashtags he uses/follows... 2 minutes ago, haithman said: On the other hand I want the republican party to have full ownership over the destruction they are causing to this country for the sake of their cabal. It's clear they don't really have American interests at heart. I keep seeing people say this. Why? Why do you think that in 4 years you can say "Look, the republicans had full control and caused all of this" and people are going to accept that? A good 60-70% of this country seems completely immune to criticism of their favorite team. They find an excuse for everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 WTF? That was fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 President of Mexico cancelling his meeting with Cheetolini. Is diplomacy really taking place over twitter now? Is it possible that Cheetolini will destroy our foreign relations much worse than W/Cheney? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 32 minutes ago, Popeman38 said: I don't like that move, one bit. I understand not wanting to be part of his administration, but you take these senior level jobs out of service to the nation. Everyone knows once you get to that level, there are any number of jobs available at the "Beltway Bandits" that will pay FAR more than what the DoS pays. You stay on until the department stabilizes, then you flee. All you did by doing this is ensure the DoS is in turmoil for the next year. Can't really blame them when you have such discord from the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Skinz4Life12 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 ^^^Are you serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dan T. Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Some of those top State Department officials served under both Democratic and Republican administrations. This is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanboyOf91 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 If you feel Bannon/Breitbart is going to be dictating US foreign policy (breaking up NATO and the EU, turning hostile to Mexico, abandoning East Asia) over your objections based on your long career experience, I could see why you might not want to stick around. Oh, and reestablishing torture black sites? Don't want your hands anywhere near that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Sean Spicer got hacked it looks. I can't see how he would do that accidentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanboyOf91 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 1 hour ago, codeorama said: My best friend is a high ranking officer in the navy. He is in DC now for training and he is very anti liberal. He didn't vote for Trump, but he hated Hillary and admitted it was because in the military, they are 99.9% GOP and hate Dems. Anyway, we talked last night and he said the overall vibe is very anti-Trump so far, which he didn't really expect. He said none of the people he's dealt with like what's happening. Ask him and his colleagues if they see the US military possibly launching operations against Mexico in the next four years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haithman Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, FanboyOf91 said: Ask him and his colleagues if they see the US military possibly launching operations against Mexico in the next four years. At the rate things are going probably by the weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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