Springfield Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 An EgyptAir flight en route to Cairo from Paris disappeared from radar today, as French officials fear the plane crashed over the Mediterranean Sea. The flight went missing about 174 miles off the Egyptian coast, shortly after entering Egyptian airspace, the airline said overnight. https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/International/french-president-fears-egyptair-flight-paris-cairo-crashed/story%3fid=39216354?client=safari# And many other sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornaSkinsFan83 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 I can't imagine a scenario where I'd visit Egypt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 They were at cruising altitude and maintaining radio contact, and suddenly there was nothing and they crashed into the sea. We've seen this how this plays out before... Giving 1-3 odds that it was a terror attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 They were at cruising altitude and maintaining radio contact, and suddenly there was nothing and they crashed into the sea. We've seen this how this plays out before... Giving 1-3 odds that it was a terror attack. Bigot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornaSkinsFan83 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 37,000 feet, clear weather, experienced pilots, no distress calls, didn't lose altitude, simply vanished and had just crossed into Egyptian airspace. Call me crazy but I doubt it was gremlins (but wouldn't be shocked if that's the story the Egyptian government goes with.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 I'd love to visit Egypt. Thought about going last year, but then they conducted air strikes against ISIL in retaliation for the mirder of Copts working in Libya, and I was worried about reprisals. So much incredible stuff to see there. Maybe I will go in the fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 People's tragedies are not entertainment. Prayers to loved ones and family involved - they were all real people - not simply tragic stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornaSkinsFan83 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 People's tragedies are not entertainment. Prayers to loved ones and family involved - they were all real people - not simply tragic stats. Who's this directed at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 People's tragedies are not entertainment. Prayers to loved ones and family involved - they were all real people - not simply tragic stats. well thanks for clearing that up. how long until we can call a spade a spade and not tip toe around this one? i would love to eat my words here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chew Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 At 2:29 a.m., just after it had entered Egyptian airspace, the plane swerved 90 degrees to the left, and then 360 degrees to the right before plunging first to 15,000 feet, then 10,000 feet, before dropping off radar my GOD. I couldn't imagine. RIP to those who died. Latest on CNN is "more likely terror than technical." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Not directed at anyone - its annoying how the media cover this, like the "NASCAR crash" mentality. Kids pick up on this and get desensitized... I have seen it with my son -- especially missing Malaysia... he has a friend that watches "Top 10 Plane Crashes" on YouTube. Its gross. This wasnt aimed at anyone. Can we at least wait 24 hours until the crazy speculation begins, terrorism, mechanical problem, etc. I will be interested in that tomorrow... but right now we should think about the victims and families. Seems like the media doesn't even take time to admit the 68 or whatever number were people with lives, families, and the point of this shouldnt be to saturate tv with all the really meaningless garbage to fill entertainment time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Can we at least wait 24 hours until the crazy speculation begins, terrorism, mechanical problem, etc. I will be interested in that tomorrow... but right now we should think about the victims and families. Seems like the media doesn't even take time to admit the 68 or whatever number were people with lives, families, and the point of this shouldnt be to saturate tv with all the really meaningless garbage to fill entertainment time. Oh please. I think people are capable of discussing a major tragedy while at the same time acknowledging the terrible human toll. Edit: I say that referring to folks like us. But I agree with you about knee-jerk speculation from public figures. Nothing useful comes when a head of state, transportation official, investigator, or someone else in a position of authority speculates on such an event too soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Well, in my opinion you're looking at 1 of the 3: 1) Either the airport in Paris was compromised and a bomb was loaded onto the plane pre-flight/a bomb made it through security 2) A naval vessel launched a missile at the air liner 3) Terrorists had a boat and a radar equipped with seeing planes traveling at 37k feet (unlikely) and a weapon with the ability to do shoot it down (also unlikely) my GOD. I couldn't imagine. RIP to those who died. Latest on CNN is "more likely terror than technical." That's simply awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.T.real,lights,out Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Dont understand with the strict rules and regs how people can still get bombs on these planes. Makes me sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 The aircraft started its journey on Wednesday in Asmara, capital of Eritrea. MS804 landed Tuesday evening in Cairo, according to Flightradar24. It took off again at 01:30 GMT for the Egyptian capital where it landed two hours and 32 minutes later. Just over two hours later, at 6:21 GMT, he left for Tunis, a flight of three hours and 12 minutes. After only one hour and two minutes stopover, MS804 returned to Cairo at 1:17 p.m. GMT after two hours and 24 minute ride, according to Flightradar24.His stopover in Cairo lasted this time less than two hours and it took off for Paris-Charles de Gaulle where it landed at 19:55 GMT, according to the records. He took off from the French capital at 23:00. What an horrible tragedy. God bless their souls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Dont understand with the strict rules and regs how people can still get bombs on these planes. Makes me sick. Not every country has strict rules and regs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-36333664 EgyptAir crash: Plane wreckage found near Greek island The Airbus A320 was en route from Paris to Cairo with 66 passengers and crew when it went down overnight. Egyptian Vice-President Ahmed Adel told CNN the rescue operation was "turning into a search and recovery". Officials say the plane is more likely to have been brought down by a terrorist act than a technical fault. It made two sharp turns and dropped more than 25,000ft (7,620m) before plunging into the Mediterranean Sea, Greek Defence Minister Panos Kammenos told reporters. Search teams in the area have sighted debris from the plane, including life jackets. "There have been finds south-east of Crete, inside the Cairo flight information area," Greek army general staff spokesman Vassilis Beletsiotis told AFP news agency. The search in seas south of the Greek island of Karpathos involves Greek and Egyptian naval forces, and the British Royal Air Force. Sixty-six people were on board Flight MS804, most of them from Egypt and France. A Briton was among the passengers. Mr Kammenos said: "The picture we have at the moment on the accident as it emerges from the Greek air force operations centre is that the aircraft was approximately 10-15 miles inside the Egyptian FIR [flight information region] and at an altitude of 37,000 feet. "It turned 90 degrees left and then a 360-degree turn toward the right, dropping from 37,000 to 15,000 feet and then it was lost at about 10,000 feet." Egyptian Aviation Minister Sherif Fathi said: "Let's not try to jump to the side that is trying to identify this as a technical failure - on the contrary. "If you analyse the situation properly, the possibility of having a different action, or having a terror attack, is higher than the possibility of having a technical [fault]." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 The aircraft started its journey on Wednesday in Asmara, capital of Eritrea. MS804 landed Tuesday evening in Cairo, according to Flightradar24. It took off again at 01:30 GMT for the Egyptian capital where it landed two hours and 32 minutes later. Just over two hours later, at 6:21 GMT, he left for Tunis, a flight of three hours and 12 minutes. After only one hour and two minutes stopover, MS804 returned to Cairo at 1:17 p.m. GMT after two hours and 24 minute ride, according to Flightradar24. His stopover in Cairo lasted this time less than two hours and it took off for Paris-Charles de Gaulle where it landed at 19:55 GMT, according to the records. He took off from the French capital at 23:00. What an horrible tragedy. God bless their souls. So really could've been any of these. Curious to find out of it was barametrically operated or if it was command or what. Either way, somewhere along the lines you'd have to think this is some kind of an insider job. Horrible. I just don't see how anyone could've survived being at that altitude for that long with no cabin pressure at a minimum. There is a special place in hell for people who do stuff like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 http://news.sky.com/story/1698511/wreckage-from-missing-egyptair-flight-found Wreckage From Missing EgyptAir Flight FoundThe airline expresses its "deepest sorrow" after wreckage found near Karpathos Island is confirmed as belonging to Flight MS804. Wreckage from EgyptAir Flight MS804 has been found near the Greek island of Karpathos, the airline has confirmed.EgyptAir has released a statement saying it received an official letter from the Egyptian Ministry of Foreign Affairs confirming the discovery of the wreckage. The statement adds: "EgyptAir sincerely conveys its deepest sorrow to the families and friends of the passengers onboard Flight MS804. *Click Link For More* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 So really could've been any of these. Curious to find out of it was barametrically operated or if it was command or what. Either way, somewhere along the lines you'd have to think this is some kind of an insider job. Horrible. I just don't see how anyone could've survived being at that altitude for that long with no cabin pressure at a minimum. There is a special place in hell for people who do stuff like this. You nailed it. Knowing its journey, experts are saying that it's impossible to secure an aircraft like this one to the point it becomes totally safe. Those people, man, they just had time to realize they were dying. So horrible, and for the families too. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 https://twitter.com/AFP/status/733368829200338944 BREAKING Greek air safety authorities deny EgyptAir wreckage found2:48 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Dont understand with the strict rules and regs how people can still get bombs on these planes. Makes me sick. No one else has the strict rules and regs the US has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 A couple times a year, these terrorists pull something off and remind you they're out there and up to no good. It'll be quiet for a while, then they'll get somebody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 https://twitter.com/BNONews FBI director says has so far seen no claims of responsibility or evidence EgyptAir incident was an intentional act - CNN 4:39 PM U.S. review of imagery has so far not produced any signs of an explosion aboard missing EgyptAir flight, officials say - Reuters4:54 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 That's simply awful. Interesting, a DC9 commenting on the crash of an Airbus A320, considering the A320 is #6 in terms of safety and the DC9 is #15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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