PeterMP Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, twa said: for that price and it's limitations it better be. just remember how many Chinamen suffered to get ya there If we are going to talk about places where there are weak environmental laws that contribute to pollution related to obtaining natural resources is there a reason that the Chinese are special as compared to people in Niger: http://www.dw.com/en/nigeria-oil-spills-lead-to-increased-newborn-mortality-in-the-niger-delta/a-41052670 Or Louisiana: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_consequences_of_the_Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill Edited November 14, 2017 by PeterMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 You are right, Telsas use fossil fuels in manufacturing as well.....glad ya pointed that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 So this is where twa is hiding out. we’ve missed you in the three other political meltdown threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, AsburySkinsFan said: So this is where twa is hiding out. we’ve missed you in the three other political meltdown threads. It is good to be missed. Is that your way of saying I need to post more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, twa said: It is good to be missed. Is that your way of saying I need to post more? LoL just figured that not even you could bring yourself to defend those giant heaping piles of turds anymore. I thought we finally found your limit, was I wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 no wonder ya can't get a cult. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) Edited December 6, 2017 by visionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/10/new-york-city-plans-to-divest-5bn-from-fossil-fuels-and-sue-oil-companies New York City plans to divest $5bn from fossil fuels and sue oil companies Quote New York City is seeking to lead the assault on both climate change and the Trump administration with a plan to divest $5bn from fossil fuels and sue the world’s most powerful oil companies over their contribution to dangerous global warming. City officials have set a goal of divesting New York’s $189bn pension funds from fossil fuel companies within five years in what they say would be “among the most significant divestment efforts in the world to date”. Currently, New York City’s five pension funds have about $5bn in fossil fuel investments. New York state has already announced it is exploring how to divest from fossil fuels. “New York City is standing up for future generations by becoming the first major US city to divest our pension funds from fossil fuels,” said Bill de Blasio, New York’s mayor. Court documents state that New York has suffered from flooding and erosion due to climate change and because of looming future threats it is seeking to “shift the costs of protecting the city from climate change impacts back on to the companies that have done nearly all they could to create this existential threat”. The court filing claims that just 100 fossil fuel producers are responsible for nearly two-thirds of all greenhouse gas emissions since the industrial revolution, with the five targeted companies the largest contributors. The case will also point to evidence that firms such as Exxon knew of the impact of climate change for decades, only to downplay and even deny this in public. New York’s attorney general, Eric Schneiderman, is investigating Exxon over this alleged deception. New York was badly rattled by Hurricane Sandy in 2012 and faces costs escalating into the tens of billions of dollars in order to protect low-lying areas such as lower Manhattan and the area around JFK airport from being inundated by further severe storms fueled by rising sea levels and atmospheric warming. De Blasio’s office said climate change is “perhaps the toughest challenge New York City will face in the coming decades”. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/theworldpost/wp/2018/01/10/california-jobs/?utm_term=.bfece58e35b5 California proves Trump wrong Trump says climate policies kill jobs. California’s oil country proves the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 On 1/11/2018 at 9:28 AM, PleaseBlitz said: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/10/new-york-city-plans-to-divest-5bn-from-fossil-fuels-and-sue-oil-companies New York City plans to divest $5bn from fossil fuels and sue oil companies Couple of interesting things about that Are they informing folk buying bonds of the 'disaster' that they allege is coming in the suit? Are they going to get lower returns by divesting? Quote http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/financial-performance-not-politics-matters-most-to-americas-pension-holders/article/2645630 Sadly, large funds are increasingly being used for activism, with members' retirement treated as a subordinate concern. For example, CalPERS and NYCERS have both embarked on strategies investing heavily in alternative energies at the expense of more traditional energy resources, despite the fact that many renewable energy stocks continue to underperform. According to a recent report by the American Council for Capital Formation (ACCF), four of the nine worst performing funds of 238 private equity investments in the CalPERS portfolio in March 2017, focused on Environment, Social and Governance (ESG) ventures. In contrast, none of CalPERS’ 25 top-performing funds were in the ESG asset category. As the ACCF report notes, “Over the past ten years, CalPERS has increased its ESG investing and activism while converting a $3 billion pension surplus in 2007 to a $138 billion deficit today. This performance lag comes as the value of the S&P 500 index has increased by more than 275 percent over the past eight years.” A similar picture emerges in New York, where pension managers have consistently increased holdings in the Developed Environmental Activist class over the last three years, despite those investments consistently underperforming overall market returns. Indeed, the 12 worst-performing private equity funds in the New York City Retirement System in 2016 focused on renewable and clean energy assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, twa said: Couple of interesting things about that Are they informing folk buying bonds of the 'disaster' that they allege is coming in the suit? Well, the coming disaster is public knowledge for any bond buyers that get their news outside of the right wing anti-science bubble. 3 minutes ago, twa said: Are they going to get lower returns by divesting? Seems like it. There is no rule to my knowledge that a pension fund must aggressively pursue the highest returns, with no other considerations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 hours ago, The Evil Genius said: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/theworldpost/wp/2018/01/10/california-jobs/?utm_term=.bfece58e35b5 California proves Trump wrong Trump says climate policies kill jobs. California’s oil country proves the opposite. Regulations create jobs. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Springfield said: Regulations create jobs. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Satellite observations show sea levels rising, and climate change is accelerating it (CNN)Sea level rise is happening now, and the rate at which it is rising is increasing every year, according to a study released Monday in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Researchers, led by University of Colorado-Boulder professor of aerospace engineering sciences Steve Nerem, used satellite data dating to 1993 to observe the levels of the world's oceans. Changes in sea level observed between 1992 and 2014. Orange/red colors represent higher sea levels, while blue colors show where sea levels are lower. Using satellite data rather than tide-gauge data that is normally used to measure sea levels allows for more precise estimates of global sea level, since it provides measurements of the open ocean. The team observed a total rise in the ocean of 7 centimeters (2.8 inches) in 25 years of data, which aligns with the generally accepted current rate of sea level rise of about 3 millimeters (0.1 inches) per year. But that rate is not constant. Continuous emissions of greenhouse gases are warming the Earth's atmosphere and oceans and melting its ice, causing the rate of sea level rise to increase. "This acceleration, driven mainly by accelerated melting in Greenland and Antarctica, has the potential to double the total sea level rise by 2100 as compared to projections that assume a constant rate, to more than 60 centimeters instead of about 30," said Nerem, who is also a fellow with the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Science. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 twa: “but but but... I have this link from a totally fallacious site that shows that one of those scientists has a mom who is a lesbian, so the science is obviously faked as part of the vast globalist conspiracy to rob corporations of their profits.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Don't be ridiculous asf, children from lesbians are smarter and more open minded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsluggo Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 The administration's position on global warming continues to evolve Quote EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt's assertion that global warming might be beneficial because "humans have most flourished" during warming trends is drawing heavy skepticism from many climate-change experts. Pruitt, in an interview with KSNV-TV in Las Vegas this week, acknowledged that "human activity" contributes to global warming, thus walking back his previous statements questioning whether carbon dioxide levels driven higher by human pollution play a role in climate change. "No one disputes the climate changes," Pruitt said. "We obviously contribute to it ... our activity contributes to it." <more at link> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/02/08/epa-chief-scott-pruitt-global-warming-may-good-thing/318850002/ baby steps... baby steps, baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Saw this and it seemed like a good demonstration of what is happening and their being actual effects. https://site.extension.uga.edu/climate/2017/04/kyoto-cherry-blossom-record-shows-earlier-onset-of-spring/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinwhiteduke Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) If there is climate change, who cares? What's the point in talking about it? You'll never change the outcome of it. If it happens,it happens. No amount of recycling or awareness or changing this or that will stop so called mother nature. Industrial plants didn't didn't speed it up or slow it down. If the elites know it exists and are lying,you aren't going to do anything about it anyway.Youre screwed. Gossiping in a forum won't change anything about it. They'll get in their huge space ships with their hot rich women while you get nothing Edited February 24, 2018 by thinwhiteduke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, thinwhiteduke said: If there is climate change, who cares? What's the point in talking about it? You'll never change the outcome of it. If it happens,it happens. No amount of recycling or awareness or changing this or that will stop so called mother nature. Industrial plants didn't didn't speed it up or slow it down. If the elites know it exists and are lying,you aren't going to do anything about it anyway.Youre screwed. Gossiping in a forum won't change anything about it. They'll get in their huge space ships with their hot rich women while you get nothing Bang up post Bowie. Hey, I wanted to get your thoughts on the school shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinwhiteduke Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: Bang up post Bowie. Hey, I wanted to get your thoughts on the school shooting. I keep reading it as snacks n stuff, not sacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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