China Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Tennessee bill would jail Shariah followers NASHVILLE, Tenn. - A bill in the Tennessee General Assembly would make following the Islamic code known as Shariah law a felony, punishable by 15 years in jail. Two legislators introduced the same bill in the Senate and House last week. It calls Shariah law a danger to homeland security and gives the attorney general authority to investigate complaints and decide who's practicing it. It exempts peaceful practice of Islam but labels any adherence to Shariah law - which includes religious practices such as feet washing and prayers - as treasonous. It claims Shariah adherents want to replace the Constitution with their religious law. A dozen other states are considering anti-Shariah bills, and there's a federal lawsuit in Oklahoma over one. Imam Mohamed Ahmed of the Islamic Center of Nashville said Islam teaches its followers to obey the law of the land. Shariah law, he said, teaches moral values. "What do you mean, really, by saying I can't abide by Shariah law?" he said. "Shariah law is telling me don't steal. Do you want me to steal and rob a bank?" The Attorney General's Office had no comment. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Hello, First Amendment. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Aren't the Ten Commandments sharia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter44 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Don't we already have laws that make most of those Shariah law "beliefs" illegal anyway? What a bunch of idiots wasting time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofSparta Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Can we please give Tennessee another chance to seceede? We promise not to care if you do this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Hello, First Amendment.~Bang Thinking the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbee99 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Love your new sig man, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 That's just crazy. They're really going off the deep end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Halal meat is part of Sharia, which is really taken from Jewish law and is the Muslim version of Kosher, so all you Jews will be joining me in jail Same with washing your feet. Didn't someone wash Jesus' feet? At the same time is going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madison Redskin Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 The Bachmann's, Palin's, and West's of America have a huge audience and are slowly taking conservatives further and further away from the center. At some point, they're going to take them right off a cliff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 The Bachmann's, Palin's, and West's of America have a huge audience and are slowly taking conservatives further and further away from the center. At some point, they're going to take them right off a cliff. If this thing passes (which it won't) there will be quite a few slick lawyers and DAs trying to jail Christians and Jews for "violating" Sharia If people actually knew what Sharia is, they'd see its essentially very conservative Jewish law for the Arabs. Which would really make this funny. I am curious as to how many Muslims actually live in TN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isle-hawg Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 II hate it when politicians pander - this is just another example -- stupid..... How about you jackasses do something meaningful like say balance the ****ing budget? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwyl Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 http://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/107/Bill/SB1028.pdf http://blogs.tennessean.com/politics/2011/ketron-matheny-give-their-take-on-shariah-bill/ For those who want to get their info from the source (This thread is the first I'd heard of it, and I haven't read those links through just yet... but at first glance this is a disturbing trend) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 This kind of crap is more of a threat to Americas than Sharia is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 This kind of crap is more of a threat to Americas than Sharia is. But that's what the "real America" movement was all about. They've been doing this in baby steps in Arizona, Wisconsin, Nevada, and Tennessee. Be careful if you hear a bell tolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Aren't the Ten Commandments sharia? I don't see anywhere among them where its okay to hang gays, perform honor killings, etc. YNC is back up to see fantastic videos of both from the religion of peace via Iran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbee99 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 As long as the gays don't get married right....weak sauce man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 How can you tell the awful Sharia law dirty feet washers from the regular feet washers? Do we get a differect color loofa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuposse87 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I don't see anywhere among them where its okay to hang gays, perform honor killings, etc.YNC is back up to see fantastic videos of both from the religion of peace via Iran. You do know, most of Islam's tenants are founded on the commandments...Or is your bias that blatant? No country today practices Sharia law as it was written in the koran, its been distorted by the cultures that have ****ized it...this is coming from someone who converted away from Islam so not like I want it to spread or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboDaMan Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 How can you tell the awful Sharia law dirty feet washers from the regular feet washers?Do we get a differect color loofa? I'm worried that perhaps in Tennessee there are no regular feet washers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Rep. Judd Matheny, the House speaker pro tempore and a Republican from Tullahoma, Tenn., said he is concerned that aspects of Shariah law might conflict with the U.S. Constitution, but he does not intend to criminalize practices such as the preparations for prayer or dietary rules. He said he would consider amending the bill before asking the legislature to consider it. Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/02/23/20110223tennessee-anti-shariah-bill.html#ixzz1EpMzGGYn Sounds like the usual idiocy over nothing.....They clearly plan to allow you to keep your non-violent,non-terrorist supporting parts of Sharia,just like I can keep my ins plan:silly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickalino Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Can we please give Tennessee another chance to seceede? We promise not to care if you do this time. States with people who can't spell secede, should secede Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Seems like the backlash smacked him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I don't see anywhere among them where its okay to hang gays, perform honor killings, etc.. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/7505660.cms Guess the religion of the folks in this "honor killing" ---------- Post added February-23rd-2011 at 06:49 PM ---------- Sounds like the usual idiocy over nothing.....They clearly plan to allow you to keep your non-violent,non-terrorist supporting parts of Sharia,just like I can keep my ins plan:silly: I am not sure what part of Sharia is "terror supporting" I would like someone to actually provide me a copy of Sharia before making laws about it. Then we can start a discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwyl Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 At least read it if you're going to make fun :pfft: I would say that if you agree with the findings at the beginning (I don't know enough about islam or sharia to have an opinion so I'd be interested to learn more... someone who knows more than I should be able to pick the findings apart), it builds up to a good set of reasoning for the activities that it actually does criminalize, which, to my untrained eye, doesn't match the article's title. (you'll have to click the link to the bill on page one to get that ) The general assembly finds as follows: (1) The threat from terrorism continues to plague the United States generally and Tennessee in particular. The threat from terrorism has been documented to exist both outside our national borders and within the homeland; (2) The threat from terrorism within the homeland, including from within this state, otherwise known as “homegrown terrorism,” is primarily the result of a legal-political-military doctrine and system adhered to, or minimally advocated by, tens of millions if not hundreds of millions of its followers around the world. This legal-political-military doctrine and system is known as sharia to its adherents, authoritative leaders and scholars; (3) Sharia, as defined and understood by traditional and authoritative sharia scholars and leaders, is a legal-political-military doctrinal system combined with certain religious beliefs; further, sharia is based historically and - 2 - 00269676 traditionally on a full corpus of law and jurisprudence termed fiqh and usul al-fiqh, respectively, dealing with all aspects of a sharia-adherent’s personal and social life and political society. Sharia serves as national and local law in several foreign jurisdictions; (4) Sharia as a political doctrine requires all its adherents to actively support the establishment of a political society based upon sharia as foundational or supreme law and the replacement of any political entity not governed by sharia with a sharia political order; (5) Sharia requires all its adherents to actively and passively support the replacement of America’s constitutional republic, including the representative government of this state with a political system based upon sharia; (6) Sharia in particular includes a war doctrine known as jihad, which is an organic, intrinsic and central feature of the laws and traditions of sharia due to a consensus among sharia authorities throughout the ages; (7) Jihad and sharia are inextricably linked, with sharia formulating and commanding jihad, and jihad being waged for the purpose of imposing and instituting sharia; (8) The unchanging and ultimate aim of jihad is the imposition of sharia on all states and nations, including the United States and this state; further, pursuant to its own dictates, sharia requires the abrogation, destruction, or violation of the United States and Tennessee Constitutions and the imposition of sharia through violence and criminal activity; (9) The jihad groups identified by the federal government as designated terrorist organizations pursuant to § 219 of the Immigration and Nationality Act, all profess publicly their adherence to sharia and its laws of jihad as the legalpolitical- military justification for their acts of terrorism; (10) The imposition of sharia on non-sharia adherent states is to be brought about both by criminal and violent means, including acts of terrorism as defined in part 8 of this chapter, and by lawful and non-violent means, including immigration-fed population growth and the resulting increase of sharia-centric political influence and power; (11) The knowing adherence to sharia and to foreign sharia authorities constitutes a conspiracy to further the legal, political, and military doctrine and system which embraces the law of jihad; (12) Furthering the legal, political, and military doctrines and law of jihad poses an imminent likelihood of violent jihad and acts of terrorism; and (13) The knowing adherence to sharia and to foreign sharia authorities is prima facie evidence of an act in support of the overthrow of the United States government and the government of this state through the abrogation, destruction, or violation of the United States and Tennessee Constitutions by the likely use of imminent criminal violence and terrorism with the aim of imposing sharia on the people of this state. 39-13-903. The general assembly declares as follows: (1) The threat from sharia-based jihad and terrorism presents a real and present danger to the lawful governance of this state and to the peaceful enjoyment of citizenship by the residents of this state; - 4 - 00269676 (2) The response to this threat from sharia-based jihad and terrorism and this state’s interest in interdicting and preventing violence and mayhem within its borders is a compelling state interest; (3) The targeted criminal prohibitions set forth in this part are meant to be a focused and least intrusive method for the state to protect its citizens and residents from the threat posed by sharia-based jihad and terrorist persons and organizations; and (4) This part neither targets, nor incidentally prohibits or inhibits, the peaceful practice of any religion, and in particular, the practice of Islam by its adherents. Rather, this part criminalizes only the knowing provision of material support or resources, as defined in § 39-13-803, to designated sharia organizations, as defined in § 39-13-904, or to known sharia-jihad organizations with the intent of furthering their criminal behavior. 39-13-904. As used in this part, unless the context otherwise requires: (1) “Sharia” means the set of rules, precepts, instructions, or edicts which are said to emanate directly or indirectly from the god of Allah or the prophet Mohammed and which include directly or indirectly the encouragement of any person to support the abrogation, destruction, or violation of the United States or Tennessee Constitutions, or the destruction of the national existence of the United States or the sovereignty of this state, and which includes among other methods to achieve these ends, the likely use of imminent violence. Any rule, precept, instruction, or edict arising directly from the extant rulings of any of the authoritative schools of Islamic jurisprudence of Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi’i, Hanbali, Ja’afariya, or Salafi, as those terms are used by sharia adherents, is prima facie sharia without any further evidentiary showing; (2) “Sharia organization” means any two (2) or more persons conspiring to support, or acting in concert in support of, sharia or in furtherance of the imposition of sharia within any state or territory of the United States; and (3) “Territory of the United States” means any territory under the civilian or military control or governance of personnel acting for and on behalf of the United States government. 39-13-905. (a) (1) The attorney general and reporter is authorized to designate an organization as a sharia organization in accordance with this subsection (a) if the attorney general and reporter finds that: (A) The organization knowingly adheres to sharia; ( The organization engages in, or retains the capability and intent to engage in, an act of terrorism as defined in § 39-13-803; and (C) The act of terrorism of the organization threatens the security or public safety of this state's residents.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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