Llevron Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Pretty humble kid 12 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderInTheRye Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 24 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: CJ Stroud and Micah Parsons break down the Daniels pick on Bleacher Report. Around the 47 minute mark. This is a great video. When Stroud starts talking about how he's known Jayden his whole life and they grew up about 20 minutes from each other and about how hard it was to make it out of that to where he is now-- I really felt it and I get it. That **** is real. I didn't know anything about Jayden's childhood, but I do know how early struggle can make you a better man. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 5 hours ago, ClaytoAli said: This thread took a bit to get created and is butt arse naked 8 hrs after the pick was announced. So telling. 😂 Why not volunteer more information? I'm getting a sense you want to get at something, and the fact that Llevron seemed to want to touch on it. I know Hooper talked about it directly. Just come out with it, we should discuss it, at least obliquely. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderInTheRye Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, Llevron said: Pretty humble kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 20 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: Sort of cool to hear him talk abut being a football junkie who loves to watch it. Juxtaposed to Haskins (RIP) where I recall a beat guy asking him during camp about watching it and he said something to the effect that he's not a dude who loves watching football, he watched other things when he's home -- something like that. I recall posting about it at the time. You can feel the competitive vibe in Daniels in most of his interviews. I remember cause at the time I couldnt disagree with you more. I was all about having mental time away or something like that. I think, me personally, I do what I have to do to like a player and hope for the best. Sometimes that blinds me to their obvious flaws. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Berggy9598 said: Again, why have you decided he's not a good pocket passer? Of himself, Maybe and Williams, Daniels might actually be the most polished pocket passer. I think it's conflicting information from metrics and tape. They see a guy who has good accuracy (if they've been following) on deep balls but some of our better experts have talked about guys needing to wait on some of those. They see someone who runs but is, at least according to data we have, pulls down without looking downfield to extend the play via pass (not that he never does but it's more rare than Maye or Williams who run mostly to extend the passing play.) They see a guy who's ADOT and over the middle throws appear more scarce compared to guys who may run but also are more daring over the middle/intermediate. Same with processing, it could be that JD walked them through pre and post in one-on-ones and blew their socks off. But I've seen tape breakdowns that call some of that into question (Kurt Warner is one, and he was critical of Maye and McCarthy on different things.) It's also a logical thing. If a guy ran for maybe 3-500 yards and had same passing numbers and maybe dealt with less talented wideouts, you'd say "Ok he's obviously mostly pocket" if the system was pro style. If a guy ran for 0 and threw for 5,000 you'd say "pocket QB" (Haskins wasn't really a runner, as an example.) But a guy who sets running records in conjunction with passing is more difficult to assess. In short, lots of conflicting stuff, great tape, some mediocre/concerning like other prospects, some bad advanced metrics but are those stats actually telling the full story? Edited April 26 by Ghost of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
757SeanTaylor21 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 10 hours ago, CommandB11 said: Adam just compared JD to Justin Fields..... WOW!!!!!!!! Using such an awful bust as comparison is immensly disheartning and really makes me question his ability to scout QBs. Idk if anybody corrected you on this..but wow! He used fields as a comparison... To running speed He also said lamar! Context 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 7 minutes ago, Ghost of said: Why not volunteer more information? I'm getting a sense you want to get at something, and the fact that Llevron seemed to want to touch on it. I know Hooper talked about it directly. Just come out with it, we should discuss it, at least obliquely. What? That a lot of you made it clear that you don't like him because of not exactly football reasons like his mom, the way he dresses, the social media (which I also don't like) and how he speaks? Or are we talking about how people kept calling him a run first running QB when basically everyone who watched him told you that couldn't be farther from the truth but still, today, people think that. I mean we tarnished the kids character before we even heard two words out of his mouth and it was predictable. I have never intended to be hide what I think some people think. I have always intended to give you all the benefit of the doubt and obey the forums rules. I told you from the start that my bias is clear and I try to ride above it. I hope we all do. If w want to make it a focus of the conversation, I'm fine with that too. I dont think its helpful though. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderInTheRye Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Ghost of said: It's funny, he turns the notion of Eternal Return/recurrence on its head. Where Nietzsche framed it as a means to encourage amor fati, Rust just thought it meant something resembling hell or purgatory. This scene also makes me ponder Einstein's famous insight-- that time itself is essentially a persistent illusion. Caused because our perception of "reality" is limited to three dimensions, while the theoretical space-time dimension is tantilizingly just beyond us. Although at times (under certain hallucinogenic influences) I've been able to briefly glimpse, or at least believe I did, it's shadow. . Edited April 26 by CommanderInTheRye 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Looking at film, I LOVE this pick, but thinking about how every time we pick at #2 the player's career trajectory ends with a catastrophic knee injury, I am terrified. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Llevron said: What? That a lot of you made it clear that you don't like him because of not exactly football reasons like his mom, the way he dresses, the social media (which I also don't like) and how he speaks? Or are we talking about how people kept calling him a run first running QB when basically everyone who watched him told you that couldn't be farther from the truth but still, today, people think that. I mean we tarnished the kids character before we even heard two words out of his mouth and it was predictable. I have never intended to be hide what I think some people think. I have always intended to give you all the benefit of the doubt and obey the forums rules. I told you from the start that my bias is clear and I try to ride above it. I hope we all do. If w want to make it a focus of the conversation, I'm fine with that too. I dont think its helpful though. How long have you been on this board? People latch onto non football or quasi-character things when they discuss QBs especially. That comes with the territory. Tell me what people think about Jay Cutler after his first year or two and his attitude. Were you here for Ramsey and Brunell? Jason Campbell and whatever the hell else we were rolling out? Do you have any memory of how harsh people were towards every aspect of Brunell and Campbell and many other QBs? Social media barely existed back then (or not at all for some of these). I'm sure if Mark had said 'we need to get better" after throwing hospital balls all game, he would have been annihilated. I know, because I couldn't stand the dude. I constantly pointed out how Jason adopted some bad habits after being around him and allowing reporters to give him credit on good things and saying "we" when it should have been me. By the end of Brunell and Campbell, people were done. Haskins (RIP) was giving more overt signs but even there people were questioning the pick based on a non-running QB who seemed to play in a system that inflated numbers and he had a bad attitude on draft night of all nights. That and a family that seemed to be involved in an unhealthy way. Sort of like RG3's dad may have been, but probably less harmful to RG3 or the team than people think. Were you on this board when we drafted RG3? I was. There are always detractors and we didn't really have a lot of options after RG3 but I recall people mostly loving the pick and being excited about him as a person (fool me once!) Many of us thought RG3 had a chance to be the best (or most accomplished) QB from 2012. So when you make these insinuations, it seems like you were born new into the world rather than someone who has intimate experience with what occurred. Edited April 26 by Ghost of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 4 hours ago, KDawg said: Oh, you're in the loop. Heath Shuler. Donovan McNabb. 3rd times the charm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CommanderInTheRye Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Riggo-toni said: Looking at film, I LOVE this pick, but thinking about how every time we pick at #2 the player's career trajectory ends with a catastrophic knee injury, I am terrified. but thinking about how every time we pick at #2...I am terrified. Not trying to be a smart ass, this is sincere. My advice would be to think differently. This may or may not make sense to you, but I know it may make sense to someone that reads it and that's enough to motivate me to say it... Thoughts are powerful things. The things we allow to dominate our thoughts have a powerful influence on our lives. I have found that my life is more productive and enjoyable when my dominant thoughts are of a positive nature. YMMV. Edited April 26 by CommanderInTheRye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seamonster Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 10 hours ago, CapsSkins said: He compared him to Fields as a runner... Fields is arguably the best running QB in the NFL. Fields is like a poor man favela version of Lamar Jackson. Very weird comparison. I'd be much more comfortable if he said Lamar or Michael Vick as a runner. He's got that sort of speed (if he survives NFL linebacker hits). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, seamonster said: Fields is like a poor man favela version of Lamar Jackson. Very weird comparison. I'd be much more comfortable if he said Lamar or Michael Vick as a runner. He's got that sort of speed (if he survives NFL linebacker hits). It was purely in regards to speed. He said Jayden could get over 21 mph (GPS clocked on that big run vs Florida), which is basically as fast as QBs get. Then he said the only other QBs that can do that are probably Lamar and Fields. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mcdonaldrw Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 If you had to combine two QBs to create JD5 who would they be? I am assuming you would use Lamar for the running aspect, but does anyone have a good comparison in regard to his throwing ability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan since a Fetus Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I’m all in on Jayden. I’m scared because of his size, but that is the only reason. I think people that say he can’t throw should be downvoted into oblivion. If he can stay healthy, it seems we’ll have a heck of a QB and a good person on top of that. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, Fan since a Fetus said: I’m all in on Jayden. I’m scared because of his size, but that is the only reason. I think people that say he can’t throw should be downvoted into oblivion. If he can stay healthy, it seems we’ll have a heck of a QB and a good person on top of that. That has been my worry all this time and I've said as much. I'll root for him to succeed and stay healthy with all I can. The guy has gifts you can't teach or even foster. He needs to learn he won't be invincible at this level, physically and that this NFL isn't the SEC. If the staff is comfortable with being able to coach him through that, that's all that matters at this point. His size is irrelevant. He is what he is and you cannot change genetics or your frame. All you can do is maximize what he can do and minimize his weaknesses the best possible. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I never liked Maye at all anyway. Wore a weird shade of blue on his jersey, strange haircut, and has two completely non-unique elbows. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinews Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Did anyone catch Aiyuk with JD on insta live last night? And if so, anything noteworthy to report? Assuming it was rather casual but I hear they're pretty tight. Look, I don't know about Aiyuk coming to DC but I feel strongly about drafting some more legit offensive weapons for our new QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Not yet confirmed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rex Tomb Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 5 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: Not yet confirmed If so, hopefully Tress charged him a pretty penny for it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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