clskinsfan Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said: Whille I liked what I've read abut Ben Johnson's leadership skills-charisma compared to Slowik. I don't get the vibe he matches Quinn on that front. So am a little worried. I get the idea that its not all about play calling. Keim mentioned talking to people around the league some coordinators are liked but not seen as HCs. I get that. So I am not in the camp that play calling is everything. You can be a good playcaller and suck as a HC. And you can be a nonplay caller and be a good HC. But I am in the camp of splitting it in the middle. And that's how Ben Johnson feels to me. Plus I do favor offense over defense. And I do favor a coach on their first act over the 2nd act. Thing is I wouldnt hate Quinn. I just hate the idea of a Defensive head coach. ANY OF THEM. Cannot have our OC getting poached every 2 years with a young QB in house. Quinn is a hell of a coach. But the NFL has changed. There are NO OC's right now in the entire league that were hired before 2020. They all get poached. All of them. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, 88Comrade2000 said: If we end up with Quinn, I say he will be Josh’s firing as an nfl owner. He may build this team back up but I don’t see him ever winning us a championship. I get the strong impression that Harris would have little to do with it. Bob Myers, Spielman and Peters seem to be driving the HC boat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Just now, Skinsinparadise said: I get the strong impression that Harris would have little to do with it. Bob Myers, Spielman and Peters seem to be driving the HC boat. I'd be bewildered if the hire isn't Johnson. Again, a lot will be known if Detroit loses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtisp5286 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 minute ago, clskinsfan said: Thing is I wouldnt hate Quinn. I just hate the idea of a Defensive head coach. ANY OF THEM. Cannot have our OC getting poached every 2 years with a young QB in house. Quinn is a hell of a coach. But the NFL has changed. There are NO OC's right now in the entire league that were hired before 2020. They all get poached. All of them. Yeah, saw that stat the other day too. Jarring. The OC’s don’t stick for more than a couple years. They all either get fired because they stink or stolen/promoted because they are good. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, 88Comrade2000 said: If we end up with Quinn, I say he will be Josh’s firing as an nfl owner. He may build this team back up but I don’t see him ever winning us a championship. How many coaches don’t get fired? Sean Payton retired, I guess. Gibbs retired twice. Vermeil retired at least once (Rams). I don’t remember the situation with him leaving the Eagles in the 80’s. I think he might have retired, I don’t remember. Almost every coach is fired eventually. And I think the average HC is something like 3 years. Winning a championship is hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kingdaddy Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, KillBill26 said: If Seattle doesn't hire BB, and it looks like BB won't have a HC job this season, what is he going to do? He isn't going to the college ranks. He could become an analyst like Sean Payton did, but I don't see him wanting to be a member of the media that he seems to loathe. You know he wants to be a HC again to get that record, so he probably wants to stay active in the league. At one of his last pressers with the pats, he stressed how much he loves prepping a team and game planning etc (probably as a hint to owners that he would be open to not having personnel control, but that didn't seem to work). So, in order to continue to do what he loves, and stay in the league, if Harris were to pay him handsomely... BB as DC? Sounds nuts, and highly unlikely, but maybe a possibility? .1% chance? As Lloyd Christmas once said, "so you're telling me there's a chance!" BB would be an invaluable mentor to Ben Johnson as he learns the ropes as a head coach. He would be worth a record breaking coordinator salary. I like how you're thinking but have one concern, would it be too large of a shadow for Ben Johnson as a 1st year coach to have BB on the staff who still wants to be a HC and break Shula's record? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 minute ago, HigSkin said: Cant really see Johnson accepting that in all honesty. Especially when he can go to Atlanta as the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, SoCalSkins said: Except when he won in the Super Bowl in 2013 for Seattle and went back again in 2014 and took Atlanta to the Super Bowl. “Never” is not quite the right word. Quinn can coach and I feel like his players play for him. Who's to say he couldn't win multiple SB's with the right owner and personnel? Quinn can coach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Quinn doesn't excite me, he's 500 as a head coach with a solid QB at the helm and I can't get that blown 28-3 lead in the Superbowl out of my head. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 4 minutes ago, kingdaddy said: I like how you're thinking but have one concern, would it be too large of a shadow for Ben Johnson as a 1st year coach to have BB on the staff who still wants to be a HC and break Shula's record? I, personally would also like to add this comment: "**** Bill Belicheck".....I'll NEVER forget when he ran up the score in Foxboro against a very undermanned Redskins team coached by HOF coach Joe Gibbs. I hope nobody hires him and he doesn't pass Shula. I especially hope we don't see him in D.C. because of the history we have with him. And I'm glad we beat his ass this year. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 5 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: Cant really see Johnson accepting that in all honesty. Especially when he can go to Atlanta as the man. Atlanta hired Raheem Morris a few hours ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Just now, HigSkin said: Atlanta hired Raheem Morris a few hours ago. Oh ****. My bad. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 5 minutes ago, JSSkinz said: Quinn doesn't excite me, he's 500 as a head coach with a solid QB at the helm and I can't get that blown 28-3 lead in the Superbowl out of my head. He's Rivera 2.0 Was a great DC, went to a SB as coach and lost, then never won again. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 3 minutes ago, SkinsFTW said: He's Rivera 2.0 Was a great DC, went to a SB as coach and lost, then never won again. Was about to post exactly the same thing. Once Kyle Shanahan left, the team sucked. I can't believe people are even considering him, especially after what GB did to his overhyped defense. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 We’re to the point where we’re talking ourselves into mediocre candidates to avoid being hurt… 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Just now, Riggo-toni said: Was about to post exactly the same thing. Once Kyle Shanahan left, the team sucked. I can't believe people are even considering him, especially after what GB did to his overhyped defense. His teams fail every year during the playoffs. That's huge. Dallas wants him gone. Nuff said. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Just now, Riggo-toni said: Was about to post exactly the same thing. Once Kyle Shanahan left, the team sucked. I can't believe people are even considering him, especially after what GB did to his overhyped defense. My guess is his experience is coming into play with swaying the powers that be with his ideas plus his experience with facing us two times a year is helping him compose the perfect interview. I just hope our management is solid enough not to fall for the bs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho fan Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Give me some Ben Jonson as HC with a side of Macdonald as DC/Assistant HC please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Just now, Idaho fan said: Give me some Ben Jonson as HC with a side of Macdonald as DC/Assistant HC please. You know that isn't going to happen, Idaho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 2 minutes ago, KDawg said: We’re to the point where we’re talking ourselves into mediocre candidates to avoid being hurt… What mediocre candidates? Rick Spielman was on Sirius NFL channel today and said the available candidates are all great and that there will be some great candidates who aren't hired this year who will be next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Dan Quinn has a history with Seattle with 2 stints in a 4-year span. They would be smart to just hire him. Here's hoping this team gets their guy regardless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtisp5286 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 minute ago, spjunkies said: My guess is his experience is coming into play with swaying the powers that be with his ideas plus his experience with facing us two times a year is helping him compose the perfect interview. I just hope our management is solid enough not to fall for the bs. Not really any evidence that Quinn is swaying anyone in his interviews. So far it looks like they are probably giving 2nd interviews to everyone who got 1st interviews, minus Morris now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho fan Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Just now, RWJ said: You know that isn't going to happen, Idaho. I did say please. i know im dreaming. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Just now, kingdaddy said: What mediocre candidates? Rick Spielman was on Sirius NFL channel today and said the available candidates are all great and that there will be some great candidates who aren't hired this year who will be next year. Dan Quinn, being one. He’s failed before. Yes, I am someone that thinks everyone deserves a second chance. However, he coached Dallas this year. It sounds old school but I’m completely serious: this regime should be all in on anti-Cowboys as they get started. Second: his defense fell apart during the second half of the year and had a major collapse in the playoffs. Why is he considered a good candidate for this job? And, quite frankly, why do Rick Speilman’s words to the public mean a single thing? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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