Dan Snyders top GOOD moments (Not many!)

[Commander PK]

The thing that immediately comes to mind for me is how he handled Sean Taylor's death.  I thought that was his finest moment as the owner, and evocative of the kind of things that an owner should be doing when life intervenes.  

 

Not making draft picks.  

[Warhead36]

He was pretty charitable and I remember him lending his plane out to players who had families stuck in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina.

[DJHJR86]

His boneheaded decision to leak the Gruden e-mails to the New York Times, which ultimately led to his selling of the team is the only good thing I can think of that he did.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

The 2000 team is a good one...as you alluded to, the spending spree actually worked. The investment in defense improved a shaky unit and turned it into a strength. It was offensive injuries and inconsistent kicking that kept that team from winning 11 or 12 games that year. 

 

The brief moment in 2001 when he attempted to let Marty turn this organization into a well-run outfit, until he got bored and pouted a couple weeks later. 

 

Gibbs II was also a nice time period, but it was tempered a bit by having no real GM and some truly awful personnel decisions. 

 

I'd also throw in the attempt to build the right way with Shanahan and Allen. He didn't choose the right guy for his GM, but I'm not sure he could have known how bad Allen would be (and maybe he didn't intend to meddle when he built it). 

 

While I was still a Snyder apologist, I pointed out from time to time that he would occasionally let players and employees use Redskin One for personal emergencies or other situations. I don't remember every circumstance, but I do recall that many of them seemed genuinely kind. 

[88Comrade2000]

Anything regarding that bum; should be relegated to ATN or Tailgate.

[Riggo-toni]

Signing Andy Heck (and Larry Centers) in 99, which (along with the pre-Snyder move of drafting Jansen) helped fix our putrid 98 OL.

Drafting Chris Samuels over Peter Warrick.

Obviously bringing Gibbs back is the brightest spot, but he wanted back in for his son, so it was a complete no-brainer.

 

Things that could have been much worse if Dannyboy had gotten his way:

 

Just before the 99 season, Snyderatto tried to trade Stephen Davis and a 1st round pick to the Falcons for RB Jamal Andersen. They refused, Andersen spent the year on IR and was washed up, Davis led the NFC in rushing and played several more years.

 

Snyderatto offered the Bengals 2 firsts for OchoCinco, Marv Lewis said no. That year it began to show that Chad Johnson turned out to be past his prime and the Bengals let him go a year too late.

[purbeast]

5 hours ago, Commander PK said:

The thing that immediately comes to mind for me is how he handled Sean Taylor's death.  I thought that was his finest moment as the owner, and evocative of the kind of things that an owner should be doing when life intervenes.  

This was the first thing that came to my mind as well and was surprised I didn't see it until the second page.

[Die Hard]

[c slag]

Wasn't Dan S. and his wife involved in the NFL fights breast cancer by wearing pink campaign?

And did his wife recover from having breast cancer?

 

[SkinsFTW]

On 7/21/2023 at 10:51 AM, TD_washingtonredskins said:

 

 

I'd also throw in the attempt to build the right way with Shanahan and Allen. He didn't choose the right guy for his GM, but I'm not sure he could have known how bad Allen would be (and maybe he didn't intend to meddle when he built it). 

 

Aside from the fact that Allen was garbage in Tampa and was a puppet for Al Davis. 

[BringMetheHeadofBruceAllen]

23 hours ago, c slag said:

Wasn't Dan S. and his wife involved in the NFL fights breast cancer by wearing pink campaign?

And did his wife recover from having breast cancer?

 

She did and got booed anyway last year, which I think was the final straw. Cancer survivor or not, she has been Snyder's enabler since she said 'i do' on the aisle.

 

She was also sued by their former nanny for unpaid wages. Hard to imagine a billionaire being cheap with an important job like childcare, but her last name is Snyder after all.

Edited July 23, 2023 by BringMetheHeadofBruceAllen

[Sacks 'n' Stuff]

Remember that time Gibbs was watching film on one of those old Timey projectors and Dan got his dick caught in the reel? He’s running around the office screaming, swinging around this projector that’s attached to his wiener. And then how it jammed up and got stuck right when his pee hole was pressed up against the burning hot light bulb, cauterizing it and sealing him up down there forever? That’s one of my favorites.

Edited July 23, 2023 by Sacks 'n' Stuff

[illone]

[Warhead36]

3 hours ago, SkinsFTW said:

 

Aside from the fact that Allen was garbage in Tampa and was a puppet for Al Davis. 

In fairness to Allen, he has won an Executive of the Year award and before the Bucs the Raiders team he was part of was a pretty consistent winner and made a Super Bowl.

 

I'm no Allen sympathizer, but I think even he was made worse than he really is and got chewed up and spit out by the black hole of suck that is/was Daniel Snyder.

[RVAskins]

[ixcuincle]

The players didn't mind him and mostly appreciated his efforts to suck up for them. during a haiti earthquake Dan allowed the use of his private jet to go down to Haiti.

 

also dan didn't care about the team when ron rivera was sick he just wanted to know how ron was doing

 

last one was when trent williams went heel and threw this whole org and bruce allen under the bus he had no bad words for dan and actually singled him out as one person that actually gave a damn about him

 

i know that we have a lot of bad memories of dan but there were very few good moments.

 

[TD_washingtonredskins]

On 7/22/2023 at 8:07 PM, SkinsFTW said:

 

Aside from the fact that Allen was garbage in Tampa and was a puppet for Al Davis. 

 

That's fair, and I'd agree that any good owner would have known. But given Snyder's limitations, the fact that he usually hired people he was familiar with and/or had some tie back to the organization, and the fact that Allen had won some Executive of the Year Award previously all probably made Bruce about as safe to him as possible. I wasn't meaning to give him a full compliment...just more of checkmark in the column of "he was trying to do things properly" even if the ceiling would have still been relatively low. 

[profusion]

53 minutes ago, TD_washingtonredskins said:

 

That's fair, and I'd agree that any good owner would have known. But given Snyder's limitations, the fact that he usually hired people he was familiar with and/or had some tie back to the organization, and the fact that Allen had won some Executive of the Year Award previously all probably made Bruce about as safe to him as possible. I wasn't meaning to give him a full compliment...just more of checkmark in the column of "he was trying to do things properly" even if the ceiling would have still been relatively low. 

 

Allen was a salary cap specialist, not a football guy. He had no business choosing players or putting together staffs or keeping the facilities running or, well, anything but managing the cap, really.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

7 minutes ago, profusion said:

 

Allen was a salary cap specialist, not a football guy. He had no business choosing players or putting together staffs or keeping the facilities running or, well, anything but managing the cap, really.

 

Agreed. I admittedly didn't really know that either at the time. Maybe I stretched too much trying to give Snyder credit for that one. I guess I figured the combination of Shanahan and Allen (if it was accompanied by Snyder backing away) would be enough to get the team back on track. It felt like an authentic attempt by Dan to try to let established football men do football jobs rather than play fantasy football with Vinny Cerrato. 

[profusion]

Just now, TD_washingtonredskins said:

 

Agreed. I admittedly didn't really know that either at the time. Maybe I stretched too much trying to give Snyder credit for that one. I guess I figured the combination of Shanahan and Allen (if it was accompanied by Snyder backing away) would be enough to get the team back on track. It felt like an authentic attempt by Dan to try to let established football men do football jobs rather than play fantasy football with Vinny Cerrato. 

 

Shanahan/Allen was a combination that might have worked if Bruce had stayed in his lane, Mike had been better at picking players, and Dan had stayed on his yacht.

 

Shanahan was another of those splashy hirings that Dan loved. He was always chasing the guy who'd been a big deal five years earlier rather than the one who'd be the next big deal. That's a marketing-first mindset at work.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

3 minutes ago, profusion said:

 

Shanahan/Allen was a combination that might have worked if Bruce had stayed in his lane, Mike had been better at picking players, and Dan had stayed on his yacht.

 

Shanahan was another of those splashy hirings that Dan loved. He was always chasing the guy who'd been a big deal five years earlier rather than the one who'd be the next big deal. That's a marketing-first mindset at work.

 

Yep, I bit far too often on those...clearly. Like you said, it would have required 3 "ifs" to work out. I remember thinking very early on that I wanted Kyle to be promoted to head coach and Mike to take over the front office. That could have been an actual long-term structure. 

[profusion]

6 minutes ago, TD_washingtonredskins said:

 

Yep, I bit far too often on those...clearly. Like you said, it would have required 3 "ifs" to work out. I remember thinking very early on that I wanted Kyle to be promoted to head coach and Mike to take over the front office. That could have been an actual long-term structure. 

 

Same here. I bit on all of them up through Shanahan's hiring. I began to get off the bus when a clearly washed up McNabb was brought in at QB. That's when it became clear to me that Dan was never going to grow up and become a good owner. From then on, it was just hoping that something good might happen in spite of him--which almost occurred in 2012.

[SkinsFTW]

On 7/22/2023 at 11:54 PM, Warhead36 said:

In fairness to Allen, he has won an Executive of the Year award and before the Bucs the Raiders team he was part of was a pretty consistent winner and made a Super Bowl.

 

I'm no Allen sympathizer, but I think even he was made worse than he really is and got chewed up and spit out by the black hole of suck that is/was Daniel Snyder.

 

There was a video way back then of Al Davis cracking on Bruce Allen winning that EOY award. I doubt I can find it but he didn't seem to think much of him at the time. 

 

Basically Allen did the contracts for Davis and he wasn't a GM or anything like that. Once he went to Tampa and possibly had something to do with actually picking players, unless Gruden actually did that, he didn't do so well. Judging by how bad the Raiders made draft picks a few years ago with Gruden there it was probably actually Gruden making those dumb picks for Tampa too. 

 

 

Allen comes here and takes the blame for all of the dumb crap that Doofus Dan wanted, like not paying Cousins and then buffooning getting anything for him later as well. Also same crap with Trent Williams who probably could have got them that trade the Texans did for a couple firsts. 

[MartinC]

This thread is right up there with "Mussolini made the trains run on time' (which actually isn't true - he made one specific train run on time, once, because he needed to get somewhere at a specific time).

[xxprodigyxx]

dan forcing the drafting of dwayne haskins which seems to have lead to drafting mclaurin.