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I have a teenage son.  I was a teenager and on the Internet about as early as one could be.  The toxicity available to my son via the Internet is 10x worse now than I could imagine. Back when I was his age the worst trouble I could get in was emotionally desensitizing myself by snuff videos and pornography and perhaps giving personal details in chat room (a/s/l ?). I will eventually get to Andrew Tate, but it's not just him.  It's the thinking that "I can be toxic as much as I want on the Internet without consequence".  He knows and anyone who does COD gaming (or similar community) learns very well how to be racist/sexist/hate to the max.  Is he joking when he says that stuff over the Internet to strangers?  I think so... but it crosses my line and I let him know... and he's got a little bit of a troll going on. 

 

I have been dealing with him watching Andrew Tate for a little over ... 6 months maybe?   It's not just Andrew Tate, when you watched him your algorithms push similar personalities to you.  What I tell him and his friends are that perhaps 40 to 50% of what he says is true on its face, but both the way he says it, how he acts and other things he adds on take away from any "positive male inspirational" type of figure he is.  

 

After being a UFC fighter (and maybe reality star) he made his bones working a "Cam girl business" in Romania and owning Casino's. Provided this is true, which I have some doubts about... he appears to be decent businesman who promotes himself exceptionally well. 

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Not too long ago, the Bad Medical Takes account retweeted one of Tristan Tate's tweets (Andrew's brother)...said something like men can tell when women have been "blasting their vaginas" with sex "gizmos"...an idiotic and completely untrue comment that I found myself needing to ridicule lol. My response to Tate's comment got like 1,200+ likes, never had any tweet come even remotely close to that amount. That told me a lot of people dislike the guy, regardless of his popularity.

 

That's when I got a quick edumacation on him and his Brother Andrew and their view of women. All sorts of men on Twitter started sticking up for the dude...as a man, that was demoralizing to see. It also validated something I won't go into, but is reflective of the idea that tooooooo many guys out there don't actually respect the women they're with (or even understand them on the most basic of levels). Got into a back and forth with one guy who was sticking up for both these chuckleheads...the more I delved into Andrew Tate to respond to the guy on Twitter, the more disgust I felt towards Tate. So this is all sorts of satisfying to me lol...he both severely overestimated his intelligence and severely underestimated Greta's.

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44 minutes ago, Fergasun said:

I have a teenage son.  I was a teenager and on the Internet about as early as one could be.  The toxicity available to my son via the Internet is 10x worse now than I could imagine. Back when I was his age the worst trouble I could get in was emotionally desensitizing myself by snuff videos and pornography and perhaps giving personal details in chat room (a/s/l ?). I will eventually get to Andrew Tate, but it's not just him.  It's the thinking that "I can be toxic as much as I want on the Internet without consequence".  He knows and anyone who does COD gaming (or similar community) learns very well how to be racist/sexist/hate to the max.  Is he joking when he says that stuff over the Internet to strangers?  I think so... but it crosses my line and I let him know... and he's got a little bit of a troll going on. 

 

I have been dealing with him watching Andrew Tate for a little over ... 6 months maybe?   It's not just Andrew Tate, when you watched him your algorithms push similar personalities to you.  What I tell him and his friends are that perhaps 40 to 50% of what he says is true on its face, but both the way he says it, how he acts and other things he adds on take away from any "positive male inspirational" type of figure he is.  

 

After being a UFC fighter (and maybe reality star) he made his bones working a "Cam girl business" in Romania and owning Casino's. Provided this is true, which I have some doubts about... he appears to be decent businesman who promotes himself exceptionally well. 

This is intriguing to me.  I have a hard time picturing teenagers giving a **** about what some mid 30s guy is talking about.  My kids are coming up, one is now in middle school.  I’m out of my element understanding the influence these people have.

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I am a "bad parent" whose kid's have phones and we give them unrestricted access.  The problem with that is that my kids put in their earbuds for car rides and just sit down and get exposed to TikTok or Youtube.

 

People without teenagers don't experience the change in media -- if you have a camera and computer you can make content.  There is one guy we know of who gets 30M views per Youtube video (MrBeast)... he makes interesting content, does contests, but his net worth is estimated to be around $80 to $90M.  Another channel that we watch, "Dude Perfect" is building a Theme Park / Headquarters.  

 

Our daughter watches family vlogs and other teenagers all day and other silly things.  My son watches accounts that just read posts of off Reddit and also I notice he is heavy on the Andrew Tate and other "faux heterosexual men".  Call it Red Pill or Tom Leykis 101.  My son does COD and has his earbuds in.  I rail them on their impending ADD, antisocial tendencies, etc. but when it is time for family time they are still around and focussed, able to do well enough in school. 

 

I didn't hear about Andrew Tate until maybe 6 months or so.  I think he pays people to boost and market his following so he gets amplified.  I hope he quickly moves along and there's a new flavor of the month that geta pushed out. 

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9 minutes ago, Ball Security said:

This is intriguing to me.  I have a hard time picturing teenagers giving a **** about what some mid 30s guy is talking about.  My kids are coming up, one is now in middle school.  I’m out of my element understanding the influence these people have.


Based on my own life?  
 

(Some of) the things you tell them?  Will become life lessons which they will remember, try to live by, and pass on. 
 

20 years later. 

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12 hours ago, Ball Security said:

This is intriguing to me.  I have a hard time picturing teenagers giving a **** about what some mid 30s guy is talking about.  My kids are coming up, one is now in middle school.  I’m out of my element understanding the influence these people have.

Anything or anyone who's seriously obnoxious or is considered, by adults, to be of bad taste is cat-nip for teenage boys. If they think it will tick off the adults, it's pretty much gold. 

 

I don't think this situation is really new, teenagers have always pushed boundaries and challenged of what they see as authority. However the pervasive, invasive, and addictive nature of social media and electronic entertainment has made a huge difference in how that urge to shock or create a sense of self manifests itself.  

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8 minutes ago, youngestson said:

I don't think this situation is really new, teenagers have always pushed boundaries and challenged of what they see as authority. However the pervasive, invasive, and addictive nature of social media and electronic entertainment has made a huge difference in how that urge to shock or create a sense of self manifests itself.  


yeah it seems like now some of these clowns provide teenage boys a playbook for how to behave like trash. I remember friends in college that would regularly quote Rush Limbaugh (I’ve heard, “feminism was created by unattractive women to make them relevant to mainstream culture,” way too many times from guys who couldn’t even talk to a girl) to get the same effect, but people like Tate are that on steroids.

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