China Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) Russian Army Heads Find a New Way to Screw Their Dead Troops Russian military commissars in Crimea have reportedly come up with a new scam to get rich using the bodies of dead soldiers—by extorting the grieving family members. That’s according to the human rights group Crimea SOS, which reported Thursday that military commissars have been lying to family members of soldiers killed in Ukraine about the whereabouts of their remains. While the bodies are already stored at a morgue in Simferopol, the group says, military officials tell families they have to pay an extra fee to have the remains retrieved from the battlefield. “They offer a fee of about 100,000-150,000 rubles for carrier services. The ‘commissars’ explain this scheme [by citing] the inconvenient location of the body and its transportation, otherwise it will be a long wait for the body,” Crimea SOS said. There have been at least three such instances of the scam so far, they said. Last month, the group warned of university students on the occupied peninsula being blackmailed into joining the Russian military, with staffers telling them they wouldn’t pass their exams otherwise. Earlier this week, a Russian soldier who spoke to the New York Times revealed that officers handed down orders to not collect the bodies of soldiers killed in action—because then the government would have to pay their families compensation. Instead, troops were reportedly told to classify the dead as missing in action. Click on the link for the full article Edited August 18, 2023 by China Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Ukraine port ship reaches Istanbul despite Russian blockade A civilian cargo ship sailing from Ukraine reached Istanbul on Thursday in defiance of a Moscow blockade that sent tensions soaring after Russia opened fire on a Turkish-owned ship. The Hong Kong-flagged Joseph Schulte left the port of Odesa on Wednesday -- the first vessel to directly challenge Russia's new bid to seal Ukraine's access to the Black Sea. Marine traffic sites showed it approaching its final destination in Istanbul after moving along a western route that avoided international waters in favour of those controlled by NATO members Romania and Bulgaria. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said the ship was using a "new humanitarian corridor" Kyiv established after Russia last month pulled out of a wartime agreement to export grain along the Black Sea. The Joseph Schulte's mission came days after the Russian navy fired warning shots and boarded a Turkish-owned but Palau-flagged vessel that was sailing to the Ukrainian river port of Izmail. The Russian attack put immense pressure on NATO member Turkey to stiffen its officially neutral line in the war. The Turkish presidency broke a four-day silence on Thursday by announcing that it had "warned" Moscow about the need to avoid further maritime escalations. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Russia general who reportedly served as the top commander for Ukraine last year has died A Russian general who reportedly served as the top military commander for Ukraine last year has died, according to Russian state media. Army General Gennady Zhidko died at 58 “after a long illness” on Wednesday, according to the state news agency TASS. Zhidko served as Russia’s Eastern Military District Commander between May and October last year. He was reportedly the overall theater commander in Ukraine during Moscow’s offensive against Lysychansk and Severodonetsk in the summer of 2022. His death was first announced on Telegram by the governor of Russia’s Khabarovsk territory Mikhail Degtyarev, who said, “I was lucky to know this man, very attentive to the needs of a simple soldier and very demanding to the service. It is these commanders who are called commanders.” No official announcement of Zhidko’s death has been released. Zhidko’s biography published on Tass does not mention his time serving as commander in Ukraine. He reportedly took over the leadership of Russian forces in Ukraine some after Moscow abandoned its botched attempt to take over Kyiv last spring, the investigative group Conflict Intelligence Team reported in May 2022. The appointment was never officially confirmed, but in June 2022, Zhidko was seen sitting next to Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu during the minister’s visit to forces involved in the war in Ukraine, an event that appeared to confirm Zhidko’s elevation to the top role. The Washington-based think tank Institute for the Study of War (ISW) said at the time that Zhidko’s appointment was “a drastic step” as he was a political officer, not a unit commander charged with leading troops. According to ISW, Zhidko was dismissed as the theater commander and the head of the Eastern Military District in October, following Ukraine’s rapid liberation of territory during the Kharkiv counteroffensive. Russia’s Ministry of Defense named General Sergey Surovikin as its new overall commander for operations in the war on October 2022. Surovikin hasn’t been seen in public since the short-lived Wagner rebellion in June. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgeh Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 And another one bites the dust... https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/jailed-russian-general-69-who-knew-secrets-of-putin-s-1billion-black-sea-palace-dies-mysteriously-in-prison-ahead-of-parole-bid-the-second-top-kremlin-commander-to-perish-within-days/ar-AA1fnLPA A Russian general who was keeper of secrets about Vladimir Putin's £1 billion Black Sea palace has died mysteriously in jail. General Gennady Lopyrev, 69, suddenly became ill on Monday - gasping for breath - and was told by doctors he had previously undiagnosed leukaemia. There are now suspicions he was poisoned just as he became eligible for parole.... 'Everything was fine on Sunday,' he said. 'We had a chat via a payphone, there wasn't a single complaint about his health. His voice was energetic, he spoke about his usual sports like gymnastics and stretching. Every day he walked 15km [9 miles]. 'On Monday he called with his voice suddenly sounding hoarse. By evening on Monday… he called from [hospital in] Ryazan, saying he felt really unwell…he said he struggled to breathe.' Viktor Boborykin, chairman of the Public Monitoring Commission for the region, said there was 'nothing criminal' in his death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) Yep. Immediate onset leukemia. Def heard of that one before. Also, anyone catch the reference to a payphone. WTF is it 1992 in Russia? Edited August 19, 2023 by PleaseBlitz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 hour ago, PleaseBlitz said: Yep. Immediate onset leukemia. Def heard of that one before. Also, anyone catch the reference to a payphone. WTF is it 1992 in Russia? 30 years behind sounds about right for Russia. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Ukraine live briefing: Kyiv’s counteroffensive won’t reach Russian-occupied city of Melitopol, U.S. predicts; Ukraine and Romania sign grain accord https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/08/18/russia-ukraine-war-news/ Quote U.S. intelligence officials don’t expect Ukraine to reach the Russian-occupied city of Melitopol in its counteroffensive, according to people familiar with a classified forecast. Melitopol is at the intersection of two important highways and a railroad line that allow Russia to move troops and supplies from the Crimean Peninsula to other occupied territories in southern Ukraine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Wagner boss killed in plane crash. Hmmm, Putin gets his revenge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, 88Comrade2000 said: Wagner boss killed in plane crash. Hmmm, Putin gets his revenge? Plane crash was in Russia too... Not Putin's MO, but you gotta think he'd want that any way he could get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSilverMaC Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) I wonder what that douche was thinking on the way down… 3 minutes ago, FootballZombie said: Plane crash was in Russia too... Not Putin's MO, but you gotta think he'd want that any way he could get it. Kinda putin’s m.o. he likes people falling from high places. maybe we’ll find out prighozin was sucked out of the window as the plane went down, lol. Edited August 23, 2023 by MrSilverMaC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fergasun Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 ... alternate theory... faked his own death... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 I guess that puts to rest the rumors that there wasn't a real coup. (I know some people who thought there was never a revolt and that it was dramatized.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 This is shocking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fergasun Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 @Cooked Crack Jerome from Moscow...Czar Gonna Getcha.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted August 23, 2023 Author Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) Unrelated to today's news, I wonder how far down the race to the bottom will be go in tonight's probably discussion of Ukraine during the GOP debate. I expect Christie to be firmly on Ukraine's side, maybe Haley too, but she'll say a lot of words that don't mean anything. Pence will say democracy is important, but Biden should be giving Ukraine "a blank check" (which he isn't). DeSantis will try to use Ukraine's awfully successful war efforts (with the aid of a huge global coalition organized by the Biden administration) to claim Joe Biden's foreign policy is a total failure. Vivek Whatever will probably say the most outrageous thing, but who knows what it might be. Maybe he'll "just ask questions" about how many FBI agents were involved in Russia's initial invasion. Edited August 23, 2023 by PleaseBlitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 RIP in pieces. If he was shot down by air defenses, we can say he was not missed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Bold move staying in Russia. Could it have ended any other way… still shooting a plane out of the sky seems like a rather dramatic loud option… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: Bold move staying in Russia. Could it have ended any other way… still shooting a plane out of the sky seems like a rather dramatic loud option… I think it was probably Putin's intention to do it this way. It reiterates that he's a cold MoFoe, not to be ****ed with. That's probably it for any future coup attempts. The lesson is, though, that if you're gonna do it, better be prepared to go all the way. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tshile Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Seems like it was commonly agreed to that he would die somehow in short order. I never understood why he’d halt the mutiny. He had a chance, a bad one but still a chance, but when he stopped and reached an agreement his death was guaranteed to be soon. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmsy Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 As soon as I saw the breaking news, I wondered if Putin had one of his guys on the plane too so they could also throw him out of a window while shooting down the plane. Guy was an idiot. Who does half of a coup? Who quits the coup while their ahead and gives up all of their leverage? Who expects to live after crossing Putin like that? A fool, thats who. No wonder Putin has been able to stay in power so long, surrounded by idiots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfrankie Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 37 minutes ago, Simmsy said: As soon as I saw the breaking news, I wondered if Putin had one of his guys on the plane too so they could also throw him out of a window while shooting down the plane. Guy was an idiot. Who does half of a coup? Who quits the coup while their ahead and gives up all of their leverage? Who expects to live after crossing Putin like that? A fool, thats who. No wonder Putin has been able to stay in power so long, surrounded by idiots. Agreed. He signed his own death warrant. "Putin says he won't kill me if I call off the coup, so I should be good." However, that doesn't mean that certain vital parts of an aircraft he'll be flying on won't be removed by Putin's mechanic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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