ColonialWBSkinsFan Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 The swap of second round picks only moves us down from #42 to #47... not much impact there. So basically it's a 3rd this year, a 2nd in 2023 (hopefully, because if he doesn't play 70% of snaps that either means he got hurt or he sucked balls), and some money that we aren't hurting for. And if he does suck we can bail with no cap effect on 2023 or beyond. All in all, not the worst outcome here. Don't love giving up the #2 and #3 picks, but to those who are saying that Indy was going to cut him anyway, that may be (but probably isn't) true, and we know there are several other teams that are just as QB-starved as we are that may have upped the offer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Riggodrill44 said: I think it's 5 spots, not significant. Watch the guy Indy drafts will be an all pro at the same position we draft a bust 5 spots later. You know that's very likely with us! 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 I’m actually pleasantly surprised with the Wentz acquisition when you consider the cost and such. He seems to have a tough personality, which stinks. But play wise he’s better than what we have. He’s a good on field QB that crapped the bed when Indy needed him. But I like him better as a player than many. I don’t know if he has any real strikes against him. I haven’t looked into him. Does he carry major issues or is he just kind of a prick? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, ExoDus84 said: How do you know he was going to get cut? How do you know there were literally no other teams trying to get him? What's your job title in the Colts' front office? It was widely reported that he would be either cut or traded. Usually guys in the position don't require a lot to jar loose, if they are traded at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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redskinss Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 The 3rd round is our sweet spot. Hopefully that second rounder converts. 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 From the horse's mouth: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Reading the narrative with the Colts. The first half of the season Wentz was killing it. Colts had a stretch where they were rolling after a slow start. It went south from what I read on COVID related issues -- Wentz wasn't vaccinated, got COVID, team was pissed, then they hit a bad skid to end the season. And the owner and FO were really upset about it. The last game for the Colts, feels a lot like the Kirk game against the Giants that seemed to seal his fate. That's the gist of my takeaway of what happened. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre The Giant Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just now, FootballZombie said: It was widely reported that he would be either cut or traded. Usually guys in the position don't require a lot to jar loose, if they are traded at all. That’s true, but we also don’t know who they were competing against. There is a limited amount of available veteran QB’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Not sure about this. Heinike might just beat him out in training camp. Nor sure if kidding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: Should work well. Scott's system like his father's is about using the run game to crowd the box to set up big plays with the deep ball. Wentz is the best deep ball thrower/gun of an arm we've had since RG3. I’m gonna write this on a notecard and carry it in my back pocket for easy reference. I am concerned that all the mental gains I’ve made over the last six months are now gone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, KDawg said: I’m actually pleasantly surprised with the Wentz acquisition when you consider the cost and such. He seems to have a tough personality, which stinks. But play wise he’s better than what we have. He’s a good on field QB that crapped the bed when Indy needed him. But I like him better as a player than many. I don’t know if he has any real strikes against him. I haven’t looked into him. Does he carry major issues or is he just kind of a prick? They have the in-season Hard Knocks with the Colts on HBO Max. I never watched it but now I have a reason. I'm sure it will get into his personality. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dissident2 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 I guess it's time to watch that Colts in-season "Hard Knocks." 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderInTheRye Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) After yesterday's complete debacle and the rumors that Trubiskey (of all people) might prefer a qb competition with the Giants, to the certainty of starting for dirty Dan Snyder's team, I think this was the best of a diminishing universe of very ****ty options. Hopefully, Wentz realizes that this is his last best shot to be a starting qb and he is reborn samurai. If however Wentz tank commands us to a complete collapse there's the Bryce Young sweepstakes to look forward to. --shrug-- Edited March 9, 2022 by CommanderInTheRye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, mhd24 said: Hate the value we gave up on the trade. Well, it looks like no qb for sure in the first. I wonder where we go now? I think the value proposition is great. We get a QB that's certainly better than the other available options (Jimmy G, Trubisky, Mariota, Winston), and you basically get a 1 year trial. If he doesn't perform or becomes a head case, you can cut him after this year for zero dead cap. If he performs well, you get a starting caliber QB for below market rate. That seems worth 2 third round picks. Also, I presume the team will also draft a QB to develop this year. I don't see Wentz as a long term answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just now, Dissident2 said: I guess it's time to watch that Colts in-season "Hard Knocks." Let us know what you find out afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: Reading the narrative with the Colts. The first half of the season Wentz was killing it. Colts had a stretch where they were rolling after a slow start. It went south from what I read on COVID related issues -- Wentz wasn't vaccinated, got COVID, team was pissed, then they hit a bad skid to end the season. And the owner and FO were really upset about it. The last game for the Colts, feels a lot like the Kirk game against the Giants that seemed to seal his fate. That's the gist of my takeaway of what happened. Yeah, that’s the conclusion i got too back in December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 I loved Carson Wentz, post injury he seems to be a different dude. The whole Covid Vax/no vax thing was a weird issue even with folks here like Sweat/Rivera. Best upside, not terrible spend in capital, had to do something, I'm coming back around. I'm thrilled with this offseason if we land Wagner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bifflog Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Burgold said: Not sure about this. Heinike might just beat him out in training camp. Nor sure if kidding. I mean, not if their numbers last year were indicative of anything. He had a bad 2020, but pretty much any other year after being a rookie dunks on Heinicke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 I would think we draft a QB early Rd 1 to learn under Wentz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Heinicke and Wentz had almost the same stats last year except for the turnovers though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, NoVaSkins21 said: I would've gone all out for Watson. You would've also offered him waxed, easy slip-off hand towels to sweeten the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, KDawg said: I’m actually pleasantly surprised with the Wentz acquisition when you consider the cost and such. He seems to have a tough personality, which stinks. But play wise he’s better than what we have. He’s a good on field QB that crapped the bed when Indy needed him. But I like him better as a player than many. I don’t know if he has any real strikes against him. I haven’t looked into him. Does he carry major issues or is he just kind of a prick? Feel the same way. As for his personality. I've read a few things about that. Odd thing is initially he was touted for his personality in Philly. But supposedly it went south (i recall reading the story and forgetting the specifics but it gave me an RG3 vibe as for insecurity) when things stopped going smoothly for him. In Indy, I just posted about what I read about that. As for his personality, this might be a good summary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, zCommander said: Heinicke and Wentz had almost the same stats last year except for the turnovers though. Let’s just ignore the turnovers then 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, CobraCommander said: Se we're totally screwing ourselves out of a top QB next year. The year that is supposed to be good for drafting a QB. IF the pick next year is upgraded to a 2 then it is almost certain a top QB next year is out of the question. If and when the playoffs are out of the question, Wentz will be benched. In any case, IF we still need a QB going into 2023, we don't want a lame duck front office in charge of selecting him because that is what our FO will be if we don't go at least 9-8 this season (and that was set in stone BEFORE this trade) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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