mcdonaldrw Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 pointless thread since we honestly do not have any Defense to speak of at all =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, CjSuAvE22 said: JDR hasnt beat a decent qb since coming here outside of Berger pretty crappy imo. This guy? Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico926 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 36 minutes ago, Leonard Washington said: QBs appear to key on Bostic and Collins and work from there. JDR has to sit both of them down or just give them one assignment. You nailed it. QBs literally look for these two guys + Fuller and Holcomb pre-snap. Doesn't matter if its man or the weak zone we always play. The OC is calling plays to attack these guys and QB's feast. Like taking candy from a baby. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carex Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 I'm not sure if I believe the buying into their own hype thing, because a lot of times we don't have guys in position to make plays which suggests a scheme thing to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 28 minutes ago, NoCalMike said:  I remember initially WFT had an embarrassingly low amount of vaccinated players, but then they all eventually started getting it. If their initial refusal caused lack of practice and working with their teammates, then it could definitely explain their slow start to the season, almost like September is going to be them just trying to get their legs back? Smh..... It was just drama that created sides that were doubled down on by each side and it was dumb and my theory might be wrong, but it sure seems like the unvaxed guys are sucking and Ron said some harsh ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86 Snyder Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 minute ago, carex said: I'm not sure if I believe the buying into their own hype thing, because a lot of times we don't have guys in position to make plays which suggests a scheme thing to me  Personally I think they absolutely bought into their own hype and its like 8th most important reason the defense is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, 86 Snyder said:  Personally I think they absolutely bought into their own hype and its like 8th most important reason the defense is awful. Na theyre just not that good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86 Snyder Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Just now, Warhead36 said: Na theyre just not that good  Hence the other 7 reasons lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: It was just drama that created sides that were doubled down on by each side and it was dumb and my theory might be wrong, but it sure seems like the unvaxed guys are sucking and Ron said some harsh ****.  That would be unfortunate. I followed the offseason news a lot less than usual this time, and being in CA I am already getting a lot less of the detailed coverage as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Just now, NoCalMike said:  That would be unfortunate. I followed the offseason news a lot less than usual this time, and being in CA I am already getting a lot less of the detailed coverage as it is. Good for you. That was a great move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDibbs31 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 I wish Chase was half as good as Aaron Donald 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Just now, BigDibbs31 said: I wish Chase was half as good as Aaron Donald  I'd settle for being as good as either Bosa right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Id settle for being as good as Orakpo or Kerrigan 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDibbs31 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 minute ago, NoCalMike said:  I'd settle for being as good as either Bosa right now. He is far from that right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 I sure am glad we spent 4 first round picks on our DL to be whatever this is. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Look across the league. The best QBs win. This defense thing barely matters. It looked neat while we beat bad teams and won a bad division. Funs over when you have a first place schedule.   No hate for Heineke, but he's only here because of the Tampa playoff game.  Speaking of that game, that was the first time we saw this great d line get zero pressure and I figured ok it's Brady. No. Any decent QB or team is completely unfazed by chase young and Co.   I'm not usually doom and gloom but pack it up folks. Look at the schedule. We could bring every pro bowl linebacker on the team right now and nothing will change until THE franchise QB is here. In the meantime, I enjoy watching Heineke play and I've lowered my expectations.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Just now, Dirt said: Look across the league. The best QBs win. This defense thing barely matters. It looked neat while we beat bad teams and won a bad division. Funs over when you have a first place schedule.   No hate for Heineke, but he's only here because of the Tampa playoff game.  Speaking of that game, that was the first time we saw this great d line get zero pressure and I figured ok it's Brady. No. Any decent QB or team is completely unfazed by chase young and Co.   I'm not usually doom and gloom but pack it up folks. Look at the schedule. We could bring every pro bowl linebacker on the team right now and nothing will change until THE franchise QB is here. In the meantime, I enjoy watching Heineke play and I've lowered my expectations.  Defense still matters but you gotta be good across the board and have a scheme and mindset that fits the players. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 21 minutes ago, carex said: I'm not sure if I believe the buying into their own hype thing, because a lot of times we don't have guys in position to make plays which suggests a scheme thing to me Yep, and our LB's our terrible. If Detroit is offering up Jamie Collins then we should do it. We need more talent at LB to help cover receivers and get to the QB. Holcomb and Bostic just don't scare anyone. Also, JDR needs to figure out ways to move #99 around so teams cant gameplan for him by doubling him or scheming against him. I remember Joe Gibbs talking about how hard it was to prepare for Lawrence Taylor because the NYG would move him all over the place looking for the weak link to attack. We have to get more creative with Chase... Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasRoane Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) JDR did try to bring pressure. Kam Curl has an opportunity and hesitates. Certainly, there's plenty of blame to go around. Coaches and players alike. WJ III and BSJ are going to be fine. Need a good star/slot corner who can cover clever route runners like Beasley. They're the teams achilleas heel. Curl is a keeper. Probably need another safety. Or two if they want to go with the Buffalo nickel. (Sub safety for the star corner) Need another LB to replace Bostic. Really good try-hard player who will make a good coach. But he's a liability on the field. No athleticism any more. It's over. DL will play better if they can get more help from the back end. Although, CY 99 is not playing up to the level of a game changing #2 pick in the draft.  Edited September 26, 2021 by ThomasRoane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Defense still matters but you gotta be good across the board and have a scheme and mindset that fits the players. Absolutely. But being good across the board on defense is virtually impossible. We're basically complaining that we have 4 first rounders on the line and not 3 first rounders at LB. On offense? You need one good QB whether he's a first rounder or not.  Think about it - how many defenses did the Football world even talk about last year? Ours, because chase made it 4 first rounders and they beat up crappy teams toward the end of the season.  If I'm washington, I'm shifting all focus to finding a QB. Not a Fitzpatrick, not a guy from Carolina, not the heineike buzz. A really nfl starting QB. It's all that matters these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel.redskins Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 The defense sucks all around. Chase Young is a jag. Yes I said it. I think he is a quality starter and may have a couple pro bowls, but he was non-existent today. That is the most concerning part of this season. I though we were just a QB away. Are 2 lbs, a CB, a FS, a couple WR, and a QB away. Holy ****. At least the o-line is playing well this year.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_ Skinshead Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Wildbunny said: How can he mask that his weakness are the 11 guys on the field?  Precisely. Neither Todd Bowles, nor any other respected DC could come in here and make silk from the sow`s ear known as the WFT D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Watching Raiders/Fins and Raiders DL is what ours was supposed to be. Consistently collapsing the pocket with just 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Vikes/Hawks. Vikes constantly collapsing the pocket. Â Rushing the passer isnt that hard on obvious pass downs if you have the talent and scheme. We dont have either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasRoane Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 21 minutes ago, Dirt said:  If I'm washington, I'm shifting all focus to finding a QB. Not a Fitzpatrick, not a guy from Carolina, not the heineike buzz. A really nfl starting QB. It's all that matters these days.  Agreed. But not 2021-2022 There's no good prospect in the draft and the WFT can't afford the draft capitol to trade for one. Too many holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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